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Iím Coming to Your House
Preparedness Pro ^ | 4/19/12 | Kellene Bishop

Posted on 04/19/2012 2:42:37 PM PDT by Kartographer

I have to say, this is my most hated and loathed 5 word sentence. Anyone who has the temerity to take control of their future though, aka practices self-reliance, has heard these words, or a derivative thereof way too many times.

“When things get rough, I’m coming to YOUR house!”

“Why do I need to prepare for anything? I’ll just go to my parents house?”

“If the world comes to an end, I’ll just get my gun and find me a Mormon.”

I gotta tell you, I even hate hearing these things when they are said in jest. To me they are just as grating on me as when someone takes the Lord’s name in vain or drops the F-bomb. It’s NOT okay for a person to make death threats, bully or harass another human being—even if they are smiling while they do it, and not O.K. for a person to shirk their own responsibility to take care of themselves and their family.

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There are more than one even here on FR that think this way. Some even think you should share in the name of Jesus with those who prepared not.

Someone called these people 'crabs' they are stuck in the bucket and will pull you down back in the bucket with them if they can.

1 posted on 04/19/2012 2:42:38 PM PDT by Kartographer
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To: appalachian_dweller; OldPossum; DuncanWaring; VirginiaMom; CodeToad; goosie; kalee; ...
Preppers' PING!

IBTSMN&THS guy

(in before the “shoot my neighbor and take his stuff” guy)

2 posted on 04/19/2012 2:44:56 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer
“When things get rough, I’m coming to YOUR house!”

That's nice.

I have XX acres and a backhoe.

You won't be missed.

3 posted on 04/19/2012 2:47:03 PM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: sauropod

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4 posted on 04/19/2012 2:50:36 PM PDT by sauropod (You can elect your very own tyranny - Mark Levin)
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To: Kartographer

Telling friends and neighbors you have more stuff than they do is bragging - don’t tell them you are a prepper.

You should vet people out before that discussion.
Talking to nearby like-minded preppers is “OK”

If you were filthy rich in an area where most people weren’t - you wouldn’t broadcast it.....when the STHF you really don’t want people knowing you are ‘filthy rich in supplies’...in any neighborhood.


5 posted on 04/19/2012 2:54:46 PM PDT by libertarian27 (Check my profile page for the FReeper Online Cookbook 2011)
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To: Kartographer

Most Preppers assume that someone is coming to their house. We are called Preppers because we are prepared. I would advise you try the non-preppers first because when you arrive at my house I may be your huckleberry.


6 posted on 04/19/2012 2:59:15 PM PDT by Starstruck (Obama: The most racist president since Jefferson Davis)
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To: libertarian27
Telling friends and neighbors you have more stuff than they do is bragging - don’t tell them you are a prepper.

Telling anyone who doesn't take todays situation seriously is like sending out an advertisement. People you don't even know will be showing up, because they've heard about you from someone else.
Just do your work in private. You'll be much better off that way.

7 posted on 04/19/2012 3:05:51 PM PDT by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: Kartographer

That’s actually nine words.

The five word “I’m coming to your house” may or may not evoke terror, depending who says it, when they say it, and why they are saying it. Mother-in-law, 35 year old kid wanting to move back in, cops, Al Sharpton - you get the idea.

The nine word sentence “When things get tough, I’m coming to your house” is the one you really need to watch out for.


8 posted on 04/19/2012 3:16:13 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: Kartographer

The only people who know we’re prepping are our kids, who are also prepping. We have the land and the well and the space to house them. We’re rural and we’re ready. We only discuss with like minded individuals. To heck with the rest of them.


9 posted on 04/19/2012 3:26:31 PM PDT by Indy Pendance
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To: ArrogantBustard
I have XX acres and a backhoe.

You won't be missed. Roger that.

10 posted on 04/19/2012 3:31:01 PM PDT by Noumenon ("I tell you, gentlemen, we have a problem on our hands." Col. Nicholson-The Bridge on the River Qwai)
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To: Kartographer

Anyone dumb enough not to be prepared at all isn’t going to survive with a gun in his hand. He’s dumb enough not to have prepared then he’s dumb enough to make fatal mistakes with that gun.


11 posted on 04/19/2012 3:31:01 PM PDT by CodeToad (If it ain't Newt, we're screwt !)
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To: Kartographer

Reminder: CMP still has 30-06 and .308 ammo in stock

http://www.thecmp.org/Sales/ammo.htm


12 posted on 04/19/2012 3:32:01 PM PDT by Iron Munro (If Repub's paid as much attention to Rush Limbaugh as the Dem's do, we wouldn't be in this mess)
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To: Kartographer

“I’m coming to your house”

Immediately answered by, “Whaddaya got to trade??”

(And when they list their ‘assets’, and find out that most of them won’t buy a cup of coffee here, it at least gets ‘em thinking a bit more seriously
about ‘what if’....)


13 posted on 04/19/2012 3:32:58 PM PDT by Uncle Ike (Rope is cheap, and there are lots of trees...)
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To: Indy Pendance
To heck with the rest of them.

Sure, I'll feel bad for people, but it's not like they weren't warned. They CHOSE to ignore the writing on the wall. So, they CHOSE the consequences as well. Because it was THEIR CHOICE, I can deal with it.

14 posted on 04/19/2012 3:36:40 PM PDT by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: Starstruck

If you’re sufficiently well-organized with respect to your neighbors, you’ll have a watch and an unwelcoming committee to say howdy to unwanted visitors.


15 posted on 04/19/2012 3:41:16 PM PDT by Noumenon ("I tell you, gentlemen, we have a problem on our hands." Col. Nicholson-The Bridge on the River Qwai)
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To: concerned about politics

Who is John Galt?

I’m pro-choice. The Takers can go to hell. They can live with their gov bennies when they dry up. I have no sympathies.


16 posted on 04/19/2012 3:43:03 PM PDT by Indy Pendance
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To: Kartographer
This is a 10 minute scene of "The Shelter", from the Twilight Zone. As a child it stuck with me. I think it covers everything quite well.
17 posted on 04/19/2012 3:46:28 PM PDT by PA Engineer (Time to beat the swords of government tyranny into the plowshares of freedom.)
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To: Kartographer

I get that occasionally from co-workers et al with whom I do not discuss prepping but they just assume I do because I am a sensible practical problem solving person working in the penthouse of the ivory tower. Usually my response it one of two things, depending on the person making the comment.

To pleasant but clueless folks I say, “Really? What resources are you bringing?” The tone of my voice makes it clear they will not be welcomed unless they strengthen my status.

To the belligerently obnoxious I reply, “Don’t make me kill you.” That brings the conversation to an end.


18 posted on 04/19/2012 3:58:54 PM PDT by crusher (Political Correctness: Stalinism Without the Charm)
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To: Starstruck

I thought the line of coming to my house was funny ‘cause by the time they get there, I will have already bugged out and wont be there. My cache wont be there either. Oh you might find some furniture and clothing. Perhaps some hobby supplies and some entertainment (movies / TV) but that is about it.


19 posted on 04/19/2012 4:03:44 PM PDT by taxcontrol
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To: PA Engineer

I watched it, it was GOOD! Thanks for the link. This is exactly why you need to keep your preppers projects to yourself and only confide in close relatives or friends.

The one that stuck with me was the girl getting cold/hot because she had a dream the earth was moving towards/away from the sun. When she woke up the opposite she dreamed was happening. It was eye opening. I was probably 8-9 at the time.


20 posted on 04/19/2012 4:05:19 PM PDT by Indy Pendance
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To: Kartographer

The important thing to remember is that even before they arrive at your house (or if they even make it) they will have told an armed group of thugs where you live at gunpoint.

Don’t tell you’re prepping. Period.


21 posted on 04/19/2012 4:13:26 PM PDT by struggle (http://killthegovernment.wordpress.com/)
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To: taxcontrol

We’re rural. What do you think of not bugging out? We are on a well, have a manual pump, the necessary supplies, etc. IMO, it seems as if city folks need to bug out more than rural folks. Am I wrong?


22 posted on 04/19/2012 4:13:49 PM PDT by Indy Pendance
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To: Noumenon

About 6 years or so ago I confided to a friend of mine about my planning. He said those 5 words.

I thought about it for a second and said “if you show up here empty handed I’ll shoot you before you can knock on the door.”

In the subsequent years he’s gotten his rocks in a pile because he knew I was dead serious.


23 posted on 04/19/2012 4:14:57 PM PDT by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: ArrogantBustard

“When things get rough, I’m coming to YOUR house!”

Poor decisions have consequences.


24 posted on 04/19/2012 4:15:02 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Kartographer

The only people who know we prep are the kids - also preppers - and five neighbors, who prep on their own as well. We have no idea what they have, they have no idea what we have, except for the shared supplies (we’ll all chip in for a bulk case of something and divide it up equally - way cheaper than store buying)


25 posted on 04/19/2012 4:16:39 PM PDT by EnglishCon (Gingrich/Santorum 2012.)
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To: Indy Pendance

City dweller here. We are planning on staying put and digging in until things calm down, or at least until the zombies have all left, unless we get enough advance notice.

Wrote about it here: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2843624/posts and there were some good comments and discussion.


26 posted on 04/19/2012 4:25:08 PM PDT by EnglishCon (Gingrich/Santorum 2012.)
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To: Lurker

I’d tell the guy to bring a gallon of diesel. When thy ask why, I’d tell ‘em that I’m not willing to waste my own fuel to run the backhoe to bury their sorry dead ass.


27 posted on 04/19/2012 4:29:49 PM PDT by Noumenon ("I tell you, gentlemen, we have a problem on our hands." Col. Nicholson-The Bridge on the River Qwai)
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To: Noumenon

I’m going to remember that one. LOL.

He is a good guy and he’s totally with the program now.


28 posted on 04/19/2012 4:33:58 PM PDT by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: ArrogantBustard

Ditto that XXX acres & CAT.
SS&SU.


29 posted on 04/19/2012 4:38:54 PM PDT by carriage_hill (I'd vote for a "orange juice can", before 0bummer&HisRegimeFromHell, gets another 4yrs. Can-> later.)
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To: Lurker

That’s good. It’s far better for them to have the light bulb go on. Better late than never.


30 posted on 04/19/2012 4:39:28 PM PDT by Noumenon ("I tell you, gentlemen, we have a problem on our hands." Col. Nicholson-The Bridge on the River Qwai)
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To: EnglishCon

I’m reading your thread right now. My question is, if you are rural, on a well and septic, is bugging out as important.

EnglishCon, you think staying put in the city is right. Is staying put in a rural area right? Of course, it all depends on how prepped you are. But this is given, hence this post.


31 posted on 04/19/2012 4:44:20 PM PDT by Indy Pendance
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To: Kartographer

I lost all my prepping supplies in a canoeing accident!


32 posted on 04/19/2012 4:46:29 PM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: Indy Pendance

bug out or bug in - all depends on three questions

1) do you have a SAFER place to go than where you are at now
2) can you reasonably get there (travel, supplies, protection)
3) can the new location sustain you better than your current location.

Answer no to any one of those three questions and bug in becomes much more of a viable option. If the answer is no to all three, then bug in is the only option.

In general, city people who are planning ahead, will have a place out in the country that they can bug out to with at least 1 hrs notice.


33 posted on 04/19/2012 4:51:59 PM PDT by taxcontrol
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To: Kartographer

Things are tough and America has found a Mormon...


34 posted on 04/19/2012 4:56:49 PM PDT by outofsalt ("If History teaches us anything it's that history rarely teaches us anything")
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To: Indy Pendance

I think in a rural situation, staying put is by far the wisest option, with two provisos:

1/ Can you defend your perimeter? You’ll have neighbors you can rely on, sure, but also have a large area to defend with very few people. As was mentioned in that thread, a hundred houses per mile makes better odds of you not being a target than being the only house in a square mile.
A good friend of mine who is a rural prepper has teamed up with the neighbors and agreed that, in a worst case scenario, they will all live and work one farm.

2/ Can you maintain and repair your pump. With a well, that is vital. If you have a stream on your property, you can create a pond - handy for power too - but if not you are depending entirely on the pump not breaking.

I envy you in a way - rural prepping is a different set of challenges, but is a lot easier in a lot of ways.


35 posted on 04/19/2012 5:00:07 PM PDT by EnglishCon (Gingrich/Santorum 2012.)
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To: taxcontrol

I don’t have a safer place to go. National Parks are a definite NO, stupid. Our house is logical. I’m rural, not city. If I was city, this is the place I’d bug out to. City can get here in about 45 minutes. We have the supplies and room. But, we only let our closest people know where we are. And those people are prepping. They get it.


36 posted on 04/19/2012 5:03:47 PM PDT by Indy Pendance
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To: Indy Pendance

Short of a nuke aimed at my roof, I’m staying put next to my well, too. That is if I still have one after Dear Leader’s Water Czar confiscates it.

Yes, I nearly went throught the tv the other night on “Doomsday Preppers” when the shopkeeper said she’d be going to the prepper’s house when it hits the fan. I’ll welcome our parents and kids but that’s the end of my generosity. No, honey girl, you can’t bring your pansy arsed idiot liberal obot boyfriend who has no, zilch, nada, zero life skills beyond breathing and if that’s your plan then you’re not moving in either. Call me mean but that’s my stance.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2874137/posts

That’s a discussion of today’s youth (and older) opting for public transportation rather than a drivers’ license. That adds more zombies to crowd in that if they did manage to get a car moving, they’ll have crashed it before they get out to the rural areas.


37 posted on 04/19/2012 5:09:00 PM PDT by bgill
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To: Indy Pendance

I live at the edge of the suburbs of a big city. I am building a community / group shelter and stock piling out there. It is farm country and 40 miles out with limited road access.

So I’m likely going to where you are already at ... figuratively speaking of course. The only caution I would have for someone bugging in is that you take the time and effort to make sure your house is ballistic resistant. Take a look at compressed earth blocks. Standard stick built homes will NOT stop a bullet and cement block will not hold up to hunting rounds for very long.


38 posted on 04/19/2012 5:09:58 PM PDT by taxcontrol
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To: bgill

I’ll welcome our parents and kids but that’s the end of my generosity.


Pretty much the same for me, but with one addition. There is an older gentleman lives on our street who will be welcomed in. He is a retired doctor who likes kids. Well worth food for services.


39 posted on 04/19/2012 5:14:33 PM PDT by EnglishCon (Gingrich/Santorum 2012.)
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To: EnglishCon

My best guesstimate is 50 houses per square mile. We are all conservative, we are in a location that is NOT likely to be looted. We all are looking out for each other. There is a farm next door to me.

We can maintain and repair our own pump. Hubby and I are engineers.

Thanks for the advice. If anyone is thinking of moving, my best advice, move rural, on a well and septic. It’ll save half in property taxes and less gov intervention.

Prepping is easier, we don’t have to bug out of a city. But, even if we don’t tell people we’re prepping, they’ll still come here ‘because’ we’re not in the city. I’ll NEVER live in a city again, EVER! And I’ll NEVER tell anyone I don’t trust I’m a prepper.


40 posted on 04/19/2012 5:17:48 PM PDT by Indy Pendance
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To: bgill
One of my pepper friends can be a real non-PC kind of guy from time to time. I've heard him tell a cute young girl that since she didn't have any life skills, about the only reason he could think of to let her in to his shelter was as a sex toy to pass the time with.

She did not like the comment and was highly insulted ... but she got the message. She is at least learning how to can food now and recently asked me to teach her a basic firearm safety class.

41 posted on 04/19/2012 5:20:22 PM PDT by taxcontrol
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To: taxcontrol
she got the message. She is at least learning how to can food now and recently asked me to teach her a basic firearm safety class.

That's a great start! Also, nothing better than having your own personal physician.

Just finished rereading "Patriots" and their idea of welcoming those with skills but giving a bit of charity to others and sending them on their way was interesting.

42 posted on 04/19/2012 5:35:45 PM PDT by bgill
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To: bgill

Thank God the only true blue lib I know lives in Madistan. My sister-in-law, and she’s off limits. If she came here begging, (90 miles) we’d send her away. We don’t have to worry about guns, she’s anti anything constitutional.


43 posted on 04/19/2012 5:37:36 PM PDT by Indy Pendance
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To: Indy Pendance

Yeah, you would be insane to bug out unless someone dropped a nuke on your doorstep!

You will still have the zombies coming - even the most idiotic of them know that food comes from farms - but it sounds like you have a solid base to work with, and, as engineers, you will be a valuable asset to the community.

Lay in a couple of drums of lime if you don’t have any limestone kicking about - it is useful for all sorts of things, but especially for sanitizing graves.

Thinking ahead, it might be worth looking at choke points on the various roads since you are not too far from the city. A couple of dropped trees in strategic locations will certainly slow down any incursions.

Plan for the worst and hope for the best!


44 posted on 04/19/2012 5:38:30 PM PDT by EnglishCon (Gingrich/Santorum 2012.)
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To: Kartographer

We own rural property that would be an ideal get away ....... except it is bordered by a prison farm. I would not want those guys hoping the fence and asking to join us.


45 posted on 04/19/2012 5:43:37 PM PDT by Ditter
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To: Ditter

That sounds perfect - a rural property with a working farm next to it. Give the inmates a few days to leave (they will) and you have a food supply that also repels low lifes.


46 posted on 04/19/2012 5:51:39 PM PDT by EnglishCon (Gingrich/Santorum 2012.)
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To: libertarian27

Yes, after reading the life of the Bosnia guy when in a year of turmoil, the rich are the FIRST to go. The first, and there is nothing that can save them, even if they have their own small army. You need to keep a low, secretive existence to have any hope of surviving.


47 posted on 04/19/2012 5:53:57 PM PDT by SgtHooper (The last thing I want to do is hurt you. But it's still on the list.)
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To: EnglishCon

You make it sound appealing, all the turnips a person could want and prisoners wanting to get as far away as they possibly could. LOL!


48 posted on 04/19/2012 5:57:51 PM PDT by Ditter
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To: EnglishCon

I’ve thought of the trees, we have hundreds of mature trees on our property. Several would deter traffic. :)

I think mostly we’re good to go. Thanks for all your additional info. You’ve reassured me. We’re on the right track. I guess sometimes you need that extra ‘you’re on the right track’

That and my son-in-laws with all their weapon training, we’re good to go.


49 posted on 04/19/2012 5:58:26 PM PDT by Indy Pendance
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To: Ditter

Hell, wait till the prisoners leave, and take over the prison. What a deal!


50 posted on 04/19/2012 5:59:08 PM PDT by SgtHooper (The last thing I want to do is hurt you. But it's still on the list.)
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