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Complete Disaster Non-Preparedness: DC Grocery Stores Out , Gas Unavailable, Grid-Down Heat Rages
SHTF Plan ^ | 7/2/12 | Mac Slavo

Posted on 07/02/2012 4:43:44 PM PDT by Kartographer

We’ve seen it time and again over the last decade. An emergency strikes and panic grips the city or region for days or weeks on end.

We saw a complete breakdown of emergency response and law & order during Hurricane Katrina. The 2011 Snowpocalypse on the east coast led to runs on grocery stores and empty shelves within a matter of hours. Widespread blackouts during Hurricane Ike left large sections of the Houston power grid down for up to four weeks. In all these cases gas was almost impossible to find, what was in your pantry was what you had until food distribution resumed, local water was not safe for consumption, and government response was limited to reinstating essential services first and foremost.

The bottom line, as Jesselyn Radack of the Government Accountability Project notes, is that after billions have been spent by Department of Homeland Security, FEMA and local law enforcement, we are no more prepared today than we were the day before September 11, 2011.

(Excerpt) Read more at shtfplan.com ...


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KEYWORDS: preparedness; preppers
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To: Gabz

I... er, uhhh.... well, ummmm...

It is at Columbia Island.

The little one is in the driveway. Little teeny thing, only a chevy 327 inboard...

Sort of like a volt, really...


141 posted on 07/03/2012 4:59:26 PM PDT by patton (DateDiff)
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To: cpa4you

Drive on, you!


142 posted on 07/03/2012 5:05:25 PM PDT by patton (DateDiff)
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To: patton

Here goes the power, again... arrrgh


143 posted on 07/03/2012 6:29:48 PM PDT by patton (DateDiff)
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To: Kartographer; Half Vast Conspiracy; Mich Patriot; Old Sarge; Marcella; metmom; ChocChipCookie

>>Some are just flippant nuts who say things like “Well just use your Y2K supplies.” as a jab, not caring or realizing that Y2K was a legitimate problem that governments and companies spent millions of dollars and thousands of man hours to fix.

Since you bring up Y2K, I’ll take the time to tell a story on that.

In August or September of ‘99, I’m in line at Costco with a generator on one of the big low carts. The guy in line behind me asks “Is that a Y2K generator?”

I said, “That’s an Atlanta Winter ice storm (not uncommon here), Dunwoody (north ATL ‘burb) tornado, hurricane Opal (came up fast from the Gulf and did a lot of damage here), Y2K generator.”

He got the point.

Y2K came and went, no problems as expected. End of January comes, NFL NFC/AFC championship weekend, and we have a big snowstorm that takes out the power. I powered my furnace, refrigerator, router, computer, TV, a few lights AND my neighbor’s furnace for about 60 hours with that generator. The first day out was the Sunday of the NFC playoff game (AFC had played Saturday), so I was quite popular for having a working TV - and heat! My SIL/BIL used it for another 24 hours after my 60, as they didn’t get power back as quickly.

I was really, really glad to have that “Y2K” (not really) generator. So back to those guys being jerks about Y2K provisions and by extension, prepping in general - sc*** them.

I’ve used it several times since, for power outages of varying durations. I’ll still probably someday get a large stationary multifuel genset and hook it up to my natural gas, and maybe even get a propane tank. But this small portable guy has served me very, very well.


144 posted on 07/03/2012 6:56:27 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: ArrogantBustard

As someone who worked in a powerplant as a college student, and has more than half a clue about all the infrastructure between there and someone’s air conditioner, let me say

THANK YOU!

You get it. Well put. Especially the “Then STFU, ya jackwagon!” part. Nice rant.


145 posted on 07/03/2012 7:01:43 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: FreedomPoster

I like that story.

What type generator did you get? If it’s provided that long a service life, I’d like to know.


146 posted on 07/03/2012 7:46:07 PM PDT by Old Sarge (We are now officially over the precipice, we just havent struck the ground yet)
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To: packrat35

Point to one in particular. I want to see what you consider belittling. Please.


147 posted on 07/04/2012 1:10:01 PM PDT by Half Vast Conspiracy (I made a prank call...pretended I was a mime.)
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To: Kartographer
It wasn't a disaster, because people took the problem seriously and addressed it and thereby eliminated the problem before it could cause chaos.

What about all of the Y2K doomers who said, right up to the moment, that we were headed for a complete catastrophe?

Anyway, that's beside the point. Y2K was more about picking the moment (that many KNEW wasn't going to occur). This is just generally about being prepared. I fail to see how anyone would be against it.

So, can you point to a particular post that would demonstrate these antis? I haven't paid much attention to the threads up to this point.

148 posted on 07/04/2012 1:15:16 PM PDT by Half Vast Conspiracy (I made a prank call...pretended I was a mime.)
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To: Mich Patriot
Some idiot on a prepper thread last week declared...

Link?

149 posted on 07/04/2012 1:16:20 PM PDT by Half Vast Conspiracy (I made a prank call...pretended I was a mime.)
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To: ottbmare

i live on a small cul-de-sac where the utilities are all underground, but we are linked to an older rural area which has power lines on poles, and we lose power sometimes even if the sun is shining, but more frequently in a bad storm because of the weakest link issue. underground utilities aren’t always the solution as we have experienced in our situation.


150 posted on 07/04/2012 1:50:21 PM PDT by IWONDR
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To: Kartographer

The following is from ‘Ann’ in Japan during the disaster there last year...food for thought...

“Utterly amazingly, where I am there has been no looting, no pushing in lines. People leave their front doors open, as it is safer when an earthquake strikes. People keep saying, ‘Oh, this is how it used to be in the old days when everyone helped one another.’ …I find food and water left in my entranceway. I have no idea from whom, but it is there. Old men in green hats go from door to door checking to see if everyone is OK.…”

—”Ann,” in Japan during the March, 2011 earthquake and tsunami, from Medical News Commentaries, “Finding Beauty When All the Lights Go Out,” Mark Sircus, Ac., OMD, newsletter@ magnesiumforlife.com


151 posted on 07/04/2012 3:39:10 PM PDT by GGpaX4DumpedTea (I am a Tea Party descendant...steeped in the Constitutional Republic given to us by the Founders.)
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To: Half Vast Conspiracy

I responded with an example in post #65 this thread. Also other FReepers sent you examples in this same thread. It appears that not only are you too lazy to do your own research you are to lazy to read the responses to your questions.


152 posted on 07/04/2012 7:14:00 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer
You have a reading comprehension problem. I want to know what you believe to be egregious. If they are so prevalent, surely you can post one. You can, right?
153 posted on 07/05/2012 6:48:19 AM PDT by Half Vast Conspiracy (I made a prank call...pretended I was a mime.)
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To: Half Vast Conspiracy

First I’ll begin with every post you have directed toward me.


154 posted on 07/05/2012 7:49:12 AM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: packrat35
At least a half dozen show up belittling preppers or making fun of them.

Consider this: maybe you are wound a bit too tight. Are you sending these folks profanity laced freepmails like you've sent me? Hmmmm?

155 posted on 07/05/2012 6:50:11 PM PDT by Half Vast Conspiracy (I made a prank call...pretended I was a mime.)
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To: Kartographer
First I’ll begin with every post you have directed toward me.

I am your example? A guy asking questions?

Got it. You can't produce anything.

Here's something to consider: maybe you, and your Freepmail foul mouthed friends, have attitudes that attract negativity.

156 posted on 07/05/2012 6:53:13 PM PDT by Half Vast Conspiracy (I made a prank call...pretended I was a mime.)
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To: patton

ping for later read. good points to consider.


157 posted on 07/05/2012 7:47:14 PM PDT by Redcitizen (New Mexico, home of the green chili & the A-bomb. Coincidence? I think not.)
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