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Conservative “expert” purists have to recognize people are voting AGAINST Obama not FOR Romney
coachisright.com ^ | Juky 5, 2012 | Kevin "Coach" Collins

Posted on 07/05/2012 10:40:20 AM PDT by jmaroneps37

The Drudge Report carries a picture of Mitt Romney jet skiing with his wife – “Oh no that’s it Barack Obama will cruise to reelection because all is lost!”

A few people, who we’ve heard of, have declared Romney’s campaign virtually dead because THEY don’t like his response to the two worst decisions from the Supreme Court.

These comments are, of course well meaning, but they remind us of the wide gap between grass roots activist TEA party conservative voters and conservative “leaders” who now want to run in front of the parade to appear to be relevant.

There is a huge surge of enthusiasm to get rid of Barack Obama that is happening in the streets and on conservative internet “meeting places” that will flush Barack Obama away in November. How can these “experts” not know this?

In my small but reliable poll 66% my overwhelmingly conservative readers said they were voting AGAINST Barack Obama and just 24% said they were voting FOR Mitt Romney! The large national polls won’t ask this question but that doesn’t alter the truth.

Our “expert” conservative leaders don’t yet understand that not only will conservative voters crawl through broken glass to vote against Obama, BUT more to the point, legions of Americans, especially White voters, who just desperately want Obama gone will see “ROMNEY” as the name on the toilet bowl handle that must be pulled down to flush away Barack Obama – America’s foulest mistake.

Over the past two years Obama’s nationally televised speeches have drawn fewer and fewer listeners. This is because Americans don’t care what he has to say, they want him gone.

Regardless of what he has done, Obama has not gotten ANY lasting “poll bounce” because Americans don’t care what he does, they want…..

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To: The_Victor

Romney is faithless in politics!


41 posted on 07/05/2012 11:34:50 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: VanDeKoik

Ok, that’s nice. Now give me a candidate that has a snowballs chance of beating Obama and I’ll vote for them.

You require a guarantee of victory before making an effort? How sad. Our Founders did not. And, neither did those who started the Republican Party in 1856. In fact, the very first Republican presidential nominee, John C. Fremont, lost the election to none other than James Buchanan, a Democrat. Good thing for us, they did not give up. Unlike you, they were willing to start with nothing and make an effort without guarantees for the betterment of the nation. It works ... when you give it shot.


42 posted on 07/05/2012 11:36:35 AM PDT by so_real ( "The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.")
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To: EternalVigilance
‘Truth is, not a ballot in the country will offer a single line to vote against anyone for president. They will all contain only the opportunity to vote FOR your chosen candidate.”

We have a liberal in our midst.

Another stupid fallacy. Just because a ballot does not present us with a “Vote Against” option, DOES NOT MEAN I AM VOTING FOR!!!!!

Use some sense, please.

43 posted on 07/05/2012 11:38:09 AM PDT by BornToBeAmerican (Things aren't as good as they should be and its Obama's fault, the resident said)
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To: ari-freedom

I'd settle for "a conservative". I don't need a "perfect conservative". Romney fits neither bill. He won't survive four more years without impeachment or arrest. I'm not afraid of him. In fact, in my state of Wisconsin, he has been effectively neutered. He wouldn't even set foot here to try to campaign against Scott Walker. All states should have my state's courage.


44 posted on 07/05/2012 11:39:12 AM PDT by so_real ( "The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.")
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To: ari-freedom
I bet there are some in Venezuela who are still waiting for the perfect conservative to beat Hugo Chavez.

Good one!

45 posted on 07/05/2012 11:39:52 AM PDT by Alas Babylon! (Who? Vote for WHO? Not Obama!!! Then WHO?)
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To: BornToBeAmerican

You folks have moved beyond reason.

You won’t admit it, and may not even know it, but you’re becoming poster children for why Romney Republicanism is so dangerous and destructive.


46 posted on 07/05/2012 11:45:09 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (A Choice, not an Etch-A-Sketch. TomHoefling.com)
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To: muawiyah

Read again my last post.

Of course they need to be stopped, and if we can before the election, then GREAT. But if not, then who really cares.

The simple truth is that every Conservative should be as ashamed as I am that after 2008, all we could come up with is Romney.

Though, two things that Romney is that Zero is not.

1. A successive Business man
2. A Politician (he will bow to pressure)

Obama is nothing but an idealistic Thug


47 posted on 07/05/2012 11:46:27 AM PDT by BornToBeAmerican (Things aren't as good as they should be and its Obama's fault, the resident said)
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To: blondee123

1. The GOP didn’t make sure they dropped out, the voters did. We need a big fat mirror. Conservatives split among 4 others. When it comes down to the voting booth, the GOPe has the same vote you do.

2. Of course money is a factor. It is a factor in everything. Another thing we need to quit blaming and start realizing how it works. #2 is related to #1 and both equal votes which brings victory.

Way too many people look for excuses instead of trying to play the game.


48 posted on 07/05/2012 11:46:44 AM PDT by mnehring
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To: EternalVigilance

Your arguments are simply childish, simply childish. Liberal all the way.

Romney was and still is my second last pick. Any Repub over Zero. Absolutely.

Only a fool would believe that another term of Obama would be better than a term of Romney


49 posted on 07/05/2012 11:50:34 AM PDT by BornToBeAmerican (Things aren't as good as they should be and its Obama's fault, the resident said)
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To: PoliticalArsonist

In the entire history of the United States, only one elected president failed to receive the nomination of his party for re-election in the following term. That was Franklin Pierce in 1857. Your plan to be better prepared in 2016 already has a success probability approaching zero with regard to the POTUS. Try we will, I grant you. But we'll have even less probability of success in four years than we have today. After eight years of GOPe control, 'conservatism' will no longer mean what it means today. We will have lost more than you expect. Only by keeping a tagged target on the field of battle before us will the GOPe decide "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" and work with us. Once the GOPe is empowered, they will turn (left) against us. Count on it; history repeats itself.


50 posted on 07/05/2012 11:51:33 AM PDT by so_real ( "The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.")
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To: EternalVigilance
Oh and the grand prize is not ROMNEY.

It is getting a truly Conservative House and Senate, and a republican President that can be pressured in doing what “they say”

I chose this over dictatorship any day. The choice is clear for those that have eyes that see.

51 posted on 07/05/2012 11:54:13 AM PDT by BornToBeAmerican (Things aren't as good as they should be and its Obama's fault, the resident said)
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To: EternalVigilance
You keep forgetting the legal disclosure you are supposed to add to your posts:

Political advertising paid for by Tom Hoefling for President campaign in compliance with the voluntary limits of the Judicial Campaign Fairness Act.

52 posted on 07/05/2012 11:54:38 AM PDT by mnehring
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To: BornToBeAmerican

Liberal? How is it “liberal” to state a simple fact, which is that there won’t be a single ballot in the country with a line that allows you to vote against anyone for president? The only choices offered will be to vote for a particular candidate of your choice. That’s simply reality.

What is wrong with you?

Do you think it is “conservative” to deploy easily disproved lying fig leafs to cover your own lack of character and principle?


53 posted on 07/05/2012 11:57:22 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (A Choice, not an Etch-A-Sketch. TomHoefling.com)
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To: butterdezillion

I agree with a great deal of what you have said. However, I don't see a single one of your fears alleviated by installing Romney as POTUS. In fact, having reviewed the information available regarding his judicial appointments in Massachusetts, I am confident the outcome you fear is just as likely with Romney elected. The only way to avert this problem is to install a genuine conservative as POTUS. I'm doing my part to accomplish this. But if I fail -- if we fail -- should we also allow the republican party to be become known as the party of abortion, amnesty, bailouts, stimulus, homosexualization, deathpanels, gunlessness, etc? Or, long term, are we better to have that distinction left with the democrats? Short term win, or long term win?


54 posted on 07/05/2012 11:59:20 AM PDT by so_real ( "The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.")
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To: mnehring

oops on 52, gave wrong disclaimer, it is just Campaign Fairness Act; judicial was a subset. Same disclaimer minus that word.


55 posted on 07/05/2012 11:59:31 AM PDT by mnehring
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To: mnehring
Hogwash.

Here's my sole required disclaimer:

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances."

56 posted on 07/05/2012 12:01:16 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (A Choice, not an Etch-A-Sketch. TomHoefling.com)
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To: so_real; ari-freedom

To clarify : "Obama won't survive four more years without impeachment or arrest."


57 posted on 07/05/2012 12:01:30 PM PDT by so_real ( "The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.")
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To: so_real

I don’t think you’re seeing the whole picture. The Soros machine has the whole system hostage, IMHO. After going a week letting the process manage itself after the Sept 2008 run on the bank, in one day John McCain decided to suspend his campaign and asked to call off all the debates AND GW Bush decided to give a speech to the country saying the world as we know it would end if we didn’t pass TARP. Martial law had been declared the weekend before so that Congress could ram through TARP but when there was too much resistance to get that Reichstag Fire event to be effective at passing TARP, SOMEBODY scared the crap out of both John McCain and President Bush in one single day. The following day there was a meeting with the leaders, including John Boehner. And from then on out, the resistance has slowly given way to absolute obedience to the will of the R leaders - which is total pandering to Soros’ agenda, even in the dems’ lame-duck period after the 2010 landslide.

The fact of the matter is this: we are in no better economic condition as a country now than we were in Sept of 2008. We’re even farther in debt. What Soros and his communist-Islamist alliance was able to do in Sept of 2008 they can do at any minute of their choosing. Congress has done NOTHING to protect us from the economic terrorism that Soros has spent a lifetime doing. And now Soros has openly stated that he sides with the Islamists/terrorists against America, because he believes that America and capitalism are the world’s 2 great evils that he has to destroy. IOW, Soros has told us straight out that he is allies with the Islamists. He told both Hillary and Obama during the 2008 primary that he planned to destroy the US economy, and Obama was on-board with that plan.

Nothing has worked like it’s supposed to. Blue-dog democrats were supposed to be scared enough of electoral defeat that they would not pull a crap sandwich like Obamacare on us; it would be political suicide. And it was; 2010 was the biggest landslide in history. Yet even after that we’ve got democrats falling on their swords AND REPUBLICANS falling on their swords in order to not cross Soros’ agenda. We are not talking politics as usual. All the checks and balances - even of the ballot box - are being bulldozed by some other dynamic.

I believe that dynamic is Soros’ threat of another communist-Islamist run on the bank to collapse the world economy and set the stage for a full communist-Islamist coup - perhaps aided by the Hezbollah operatives that have been flown into Venezuela from Iran and have walked through our wide-open southern border (fully protected by Eric Holder, who has sued anybody who tries to stop the invasion). Think of the potential that gives. If the WMD’s that were transferred to Syria in the runup to the Iraq war were transported to Iran, those WMD’s could easily have been sent along with the Hezbollah operatives on the direct unchecked flights to Venezuela. That means that if the doo-doo hits the fan because of a communist-Islamist run on the bank, not only would Soros/Obama have control of the military to have them fight against the patriots, but there would be Hezbollah operatives in every state capital ready to take over the government in a coup, with WMD’s to kill anybody who might resist.

It’s easy to get disillusioned by the R’s who are doing nothing, but I think we need to seriously consider whether these people are being controlled by a Boehner who is especially weepy because he’s been shown that Soros has a gun to America’s head and will pull the trigger unless everybody does what he wants.

We’ve seen the system utterly fail us and we’ve seen blatant lawlessness on a scale so that even Rush Limbaugh is saying it’s time to worry. At some point we have to realize that we’re not dealing with normal fluctuations within the checks and balances but we are dealing with a full coup that has taken this country and its systems and leaders hostage. We know that Soros has taken even the “conservative” media hostage. We know that Soros scared the crap out of even Bill and Hillary by killing Bill Gwatney and Stephanie Tubbs after they agreed to present a petition to the 2008 convention which would allow Obama’s eligibility to be challenged. And now we know that serious doo-doo was going on at the Supreme Court, followed by Roberts giving a total BS ruling that he read with red eyes and visibly unhappy demeanor.

At this point the only way we could stop Soros’ diabolical plan is if we had somebody who could issue an executive order that would immediately stop a run on the bank. Only when a non-Soros agent has that power will Congress be free to create a budget and get us on sound fiscal territory so that Soros’ alliance no longer has enough money to destroy the US economy. That’s the long and short of it, right there. WE HAVE TO HAVE THE PRESIDENCY, IF WE ARE TO HAVE ANY HOPE OF DISARMING THE MAN WHO HOLDS THIS ENTIRE SYSTEM HOSTAGE. Period.


58 posted on 07/05/2012 12:01:54 PM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: so_real
But how much would you like to see Obama impeached or arrested? Clinton only survived two years of his second term before impeachment proceedings.

Fool's Gold. See my User Name. I was so convinced Ken Star had the goods on Clinton that I took this name. It reminds me of what an idiot I was to think the system worked. Getting Obama out is the only important thing. Romney is at least a Capitalist. Obama is a Communist. We will not survive four more years especially with 3 Supreme Court nominees in play.

59 posted on 07/05/2012 12:02:25 PM PDT by Starstruck
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To: The_Victor
At least with Romney conservatives have a seat at the table, which is vastly superior to the current situation.


WHY is it social conservatives fault if Romney ignores us? Romney has REFUSED to go to a single pro-life or tradional-family event. He said we will vote for him which shows his arrogance and ignorance.

TODAY, why does he still refuse to sign the pro-life pledge if he is pro-life?
Why can't he go to a pro-life and traditional family event to speak, put it on C-span so people can see it (he should talk ONLY about social issues-90% of the time he talks about the economy & were sick of hearing the same thing over and over)and PROMISE he will veto gay marriage if it come to his desk, and stop gay pride functions at the Pentagon and other federal places, he will stop funding of planned parenthood federally and stop the gay agenda and pro-abortion/pro-sex push in public schools, especially elementary. That he will keep his promise and stop Obamacare day one and if he can't stop it day one-then on day one take ALL of the pro-abortion items out of the bill. If there are any pro-gay items in there-they go too. There are other things, but how about giving social conservatives more than a one or two lines. If he kissed up to social conservatives like he did the log cabin rep, we would trust him, but we don't. Trust must be earned and from our viewpoint he looks a lot like Obama.

It's up to Romney to get conservative votes. Why should we have to chase him down? If he can't or won't acknowledge social conservatives, it's HIS decision. Why is that OUR fault? All he has to do is be the pro-life guy/pro-family guy he says he is. Why do we even have to ask?

60 posted on 07/05/2012 12:03:12 PM PDT by Linda Frances (Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness)
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