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Join the Romney Rally Saturday in Norfolk
The Virginian | 8/9/2012 | Moneyrunner

Posted on 08/09/2012 4:08:24 AM PDT by moneyrunner

This Saturday morning there will be a Romney rally in Norfolk, Virginia at Nauticus. Any Freepers in Tidewater Virginia are especially welcome.


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Local News; Politics
KEYWORDS: norfolk; rally; romney; va2012
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To: moneyrunner
If you believe that it doesn’t matter who wins, you can reel off Romney’s sins and Obama’s sins and convince people that neither one deserves the job, but you didn’t.

Yeah, I guess I didn't. At least not while talking to you. Doesn't mean that I haven't posted comparisons between Obama and Romney many times. I have.

Bottom line...the differences between Obama and Romney are only in degree - not in kind. They're in foursquare agreement on the major planks of their respective agendas. That's a fact which is proven by their records.

Mark my words. There's going to be widespread buyer's remorse on the right after this guy's been in office for a while. He's going to pick up right where he left off in Massachusetts, and there won't be enough TEA in Congress to stop him. All of you who are selling out your principles to support this liberal, are going to wonder why you sold yourselves so cheaply. At least I hope you'll have enough of a conscience to stop and reflect on what you've done.

But perhaps I've read you Romney supporters wrong all along. Maybe party really is more important to you than principle.

21 posted on 08/10/2012 4:32:50 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: conservaterian
If we don't send a message to the the GOP they will continue to throw us RINOs and people like you will continue to vote for them.

Message to Conservaterian: Sorry it's 2016. As you know from the past 4 years there will be no elections this year. You are lucky. RINOs will not be running this year. You can vote Communist or Socialist. Enjoy your options. Thanks for your support.

22 posted on 08/10/2012 4:48:45 PM PDT by Starstruck (Only the wealthy and the poor can afford socialism)
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To: Windflier

Nobody cares who you vote for.


23 posted on 08/10/2012 4:54:41 PM PDT by jwalsh07 (.)
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To: Starstruck
Message to Conservaterian: Sorry it's 2016. As you know from the past 4 years there will be no elections this year. You are lucky. RINOs will not be running this year. You can vote Communist or Socialist. Enjoy your options. Thanks for your support.
You know what? As much as I hate Obama and as much as some of you have your little fantasy lives, Obama will not turn the country into a dictatorship in the next four years. He will not put all conservatives into concentration camps, he will not close down Congress, etc. etc. He WILL try to get his socialist policies passed, he will continue and expand Obamacare, he will do a lot of things we don't like but how about let's put our energy into stopping THAT instead of continuing daydream, paranoid fantasies. I DONT want Obama to have another term but Romney is a total POS and I will not vote for him. If we let the Republicans force another RINO on us do you think it will end in 2016? 2020? 2024? I backed Bush for two terms (reluctantly the second time) and held my nose and voted for McCain, just for the hope he would have to abdicate and we would have Sarah, but we have to send the GOPe a message. NO MORE RINOS. We need to get Virgil Goode as many votes as possible to send that message. I GUARANTEE you if we back Romney in this election the GOPe will know that they can do whatever they want to us and we will always come back to the fold. Well, for me, no more. Romney will not get my vote, Goode is the only option I see. If Obama gets re-elected, so be it, the world will not end, we will fight him every step and maybe, just maybe the GOP will see the light in 2016, if not, it's time for a third party. Romney doesn't have a chance anyway, but if you live in a battleground state and feel you have to, go ahead and try to make Romney a winner in those states. If you live in a solid red or solid blue state, why waste your vote? Vote for Goode and let's send a real message this time or we will be having this same conversation four years from now.
24 posted on 08/10/2012 5:23:08 PM PDT by conservaterian (Sarah/DeMint '12-NOPE Cain?- Guess NOT. ABO & ABMR. I'm going Goode.)
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To: conservaterian
You mean all the power we have like being able to get a real conservative as our nominee this year. You can blame GOPe all you want, but we were not able to change crap being a good portion of the party. Third party will take how many years? Meanwhile the numbers not paying taxes will increase beyond 50 %. They will vote for the socialists.

I hate the fact that I feel the need to vote for Romney, but I honestly think this nation will not survive 4 more years of Obama. Look at where we are after only 4 with him steel having to look for reelection. Yeah he doesn't have the super majority, but his decree's appear to meet no resistance. Three Supreme Court appointee's (minimum) will also have a negative effect.

25 posted on 08/10/2012 5:56:39 PM PDT by Starstruck (Only the wealthy and the poor can afford socialism)
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To: jwalsh07
Nobody cares who you vote for.

Oh contraire, mon frere! Every Romneybot on this website INSISTS that I stuff my principles in a sock and line up with the rest of the lemmings to give OUR Socialist my solemn vote.

For the greater good, of course.

Never mind the fact that Mr. Romney is probably a lot more palatable to moderate Democrats, who the Romneybots ought to be campaigning to, instead of browbeating honest conservatives over the head.

26 posted on 08/10/2012 7:30:09 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier

I don’t like the French. At all. Though I’m quite sure that nobody cares.


27 posted on 08/11/2012 6:46:30 AM PDT by jwalsh07 (.)
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To: Windflier; All
But perhaps I've read you Romney supporters wrong all along. Maybe party really is more important to you than principle.

Why can’t I get through to you that it’s because of my principles I support Romney? My principles are to vote for the electable candidate that most closely approximates my conservative values. If the choice is between a socialist and a moderate, I’ll vote for the moderate because (a) he’ll do less damage and (b) I have more influence on him.

But what I’m really curious about is whether Romney’s pick of Ryan as his VP has moved your opinion. Ryan is more conservative than Romney, solidly in the Tea Party ranks and has the support of Sarah Palin.

I attended the rally in Norfolk and it was packed; the lines were very long to get in and it was hot. There were people of all races, all genders and all ages. It was a crowd that looked like America.

28 posted on 08/12/2012 12:25:04 PM PDT by moneyrunner (I have not flattered its rank breath, nor bowed to its idolatries a patient knee.)
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To: moneyrunner
Why can’t I get through to you that it’s because of my principles I support Romney?

Perhaps it's because you're trying to convince me that 'our' Socialist is somehow better than 'their' Socialist.

Oh, I can agree that Romney isn't nearly as putrid as Obama is in many ways, but in my observation, most of the differences between them are either superficial, or only in matters of degree - not kind.

Both Obama and Romney stand squarely opposed to everything that I believe in. It's no more complicated than that. You tell me that I ought to support Romney, so as to dislodge the monster, Obama. Ok, but from my point of view, there won't be any substantive difference in a Romney administration, so what exactly would compel me support him?

Frankly, folks are just going to have to get used to the idea that Romney hasn't made the sale with a lot of principled conservatives, and that in fact, he's convinced a great many of us that he and Obama are of the same ilk. Browbeating us isn't going to change our minds about him. We've seen the evidence of his cowardly liberalism, and we're repelled by it.

I suggest that you'll find more fertile pastures among the wavering Independents and moderate Democrats, than among the 'line-in-the-sand' conservatives.

29 posted on 08/12/2012 9:34:57 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier
OK, so what do the “line in the sand” demand as a policy? I'm genuinely curious. Could you tell me what your ideal candidate would do if he were to become President?
30 posted on 08/13/2012 5:07:29 AM PDT by moneyrunner (I have not flattered its rank breath, nor bowed to its idolatries a patient knee.)
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To: moneyrunner
OK, so what do the “line in the sand” demand as a policy? I'm genuinely curious. Could you tell me what your ideal candidate would do if he were to become President?

Well, I can tell you what he or she wouldn't do, and that's govern like Romney and Obama have.

That's a moot point, though. Conservatives have yet again been frozen out of the presidential choice, despite the fact that we're the largest single voting block in the country.

A heinous and most despicable manipulation has been going on in the highest political circles, since at least the time of Reagan. It's designed to ensure the dominance and success of a powerful subset of people whose agenda runs exactly counter to the precepts and ideals this nation was forged upon.

They've got control of the process, and will never allow another Reagan to be elected president. This is why the Republican nominee is a documented liberal progressive this go-round. He's eminently acceptable to them.

And just like in every election since the time of Reagan, conservatives are lining up like good little sheep, and giving their stamp of approval to the manipulators' candidate.

Personally, I'd rather the whole thing go to hell, than give my approval to such treason.

31 posted on 08/13/2012 8:22:17 AM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier

I’m still curious. What would your ideal President do? For example, what would Sarah Palin do (assuming she were President)? Or is she not conservative enough? If we were able to resurrect Ronald Reagan, what would you expect him to do?


32 posted on 08/13/2012 8:43:22 AM PDT by moneyrunner (I have not flattered its rank breath, nor bowed to its idolatries a patient knee.)
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To: moneyrunner
I’m still curious. What would your ideal President do? For example, what would Sarah Palin do (assuming she were President)? Or is she not conservative enough? If we were able to resurrect Ronald Reagan, what would you expect him to do?

Friend, I can appreciate that you're curious as to how I feel about the above questions, but those questions are non sequitur to the topic at hand, and frankly, the answers are a moot point. The establishment has seen to it that we'll have none of that for at least the next four years.

It's a 'what if' conversation at best, and not worth either of our time to discuss.

If we're to be responsible citizens, we need to confront exactly what sort of president Romney's going to be, what the likely make up of the House and Senate will be (R vs D), and then determine to the best of our ability what sort of power dynamics that will create.

The game going forward will be correctly sizing this up, and finding where we conservatives need to push the hardest to help steer the ship in the right direction.

33 posted on 08/13/2012 3:07:30 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier

I’m sorry, I have no idea where you want this “ship” that you refer to, to go. All I hear is “not there.” What’s funny is that is the answer that Tim Geitner gave to Paul Ryan on reform of entitlement: “we don’t have a plan, but we don’t like yours.” He was roundly ridiculed on my side of the debate for that . Have you ever considered that policy positions like yours could be the reason serious people are not listening to you?

So long.


34 posted on 08/14/2012 8:19:04 AM PDT by moneyrunner (I have not flattered its rank breath, nor bowed to its idolatries a patient knee.)
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To: moneyrunner
So long.

Thank you! I thought you'd never leave.

35 posted on 08/14/2012 12:49:26 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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