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Illegal immigration. Is it a crime or not?
Hot Air ^ | February 16, 2013 | Jazz Shaw

Posted on 02/16/2013 5:00:00 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

The President has been back out on the road again, spinning heartwarming tales and pushing for his second term agenda, as you’d expect any recently reelected leader to do. I’ll confess that I had a hard time paying attention to a lot of it, what with asteroids crashing to Earth on poop filled cruise ships and all, but there was one theme which caught my attention. He’s going all in on the hot new fad of comprehensive immigration reform.

President Barack Obama told a group of Senate Democrats Wednesday that Congress must move forward with comprehensive immigration reform, or else he will propose his own legislation on the hot-button topic…

In a description of Wednesday’s meeting, the White House said Obama “reiterated the key principles he believes must be a part of any bipartisan, commonsense effort, including continuing to strengthen border security, creating an earned path to citizenship, holding employers accountable and streamlining legal immigration.”

Everyone seems to be talking about it these days, and not just Democrats. Republicans from Marco Rubio to John McCain have their own proposals, many of which involve some form of what the President is talking about. You can call it a “path to citizenship” or amnesty or Expedited Entry… whatever you like. But for some reason there are still quite a few of us who hear proposals such as these and get an uneasy feeling. For some of us, it may even be hard to quantify exactly what’s wrong. But if you harbor any such qualms, of course, you will be immediately labeled… say it with me…

A racist.

Whatever. But as I considered the question this week, I realized that there might be a better way to describe exactly why this sounds troubling...

(Excerpt) Read more at hotair.com ...


TOPICS: Conspiracy; Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: aliens; illegalaliens; illegalimmigration; immigration; obama

1 posted on 02/16/2013 5:00:05 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Not every illegal alien is dark complected.

ICE recently deported a whole group of Isaelis from San Francisco, and deport white Europeans regularly without hesitation.

This isn’t considered racist on the part of ICE, now is it?

I believe the correct assumption would be that it is politics, plain and simple.


2 posted on 02/16/2013 5:22:02 PM PST by SatinDoll (NATURAL BORN CITZEN: BORN IN THE USA OF CITIZEN PARENTS.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

how soon we forget....remember Al Gore’s “Citizenship USA”?


3 posted on 02/16/2013 5:28:19 PM PST by stylin19a
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If you are illegally in the country, you are committing a crime.


4 posted on 02/16/2013 5:43:59 PM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It’s a crime.

8 USC 1325


5 posted on 02/16/2013 6:10:19 PM PST by Regulator
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Ask the illegal immigrant in the White House. Apparently, you can be one and still become president!


6 posted on 02/16/2013 6:15:40 PM PST by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America (PRISON AT BENGHAZI?????)
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To: freekitty
If you are illegally in the country, you are committing a crime.

I'm a lawyer, but not an immigration lawyer, so this may be out of date, but the last time I looked this up, entering the country illegally was a crime, but entering legally (e.g., on a tourist or student visa) and staying illegally (overstaying your visa) rendered you civilly deportable but wasn't a crime.

7 posted on 02/16/2013 6:16:43 PM PST by Lurking Libertarian (Non sub homine, sed sub Deo et lege)
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To: Regulator
8 USC 1325

Covers illegal entry. New York City is full of illegal aliens (mostly Irish and African). They didn't swim there; they all entered legally on tourist visas and never left. Not, I believe, a crime, although they are civilly subject to summary deportation.

8 posted on 02/16/2013 6:20:39 PM PST by Lurking Libertarian (Non sub homine, sed sub Deo et lege)
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To: Lurking Libertarian
The Irish again, almost as bad as Amish.
Deport 'em all before they turn the country into a hard working, family oriented hell hole!
9 posted on 02/16/2013 6:54:39 PM PST by norton
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To: Lurking Libertarian

What about accepting welfare monies, health care; etc which you would not be entitled unless you are a citizen?


10 posted on 02/16/2013 7:01:46 PM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

They are a criminal the second they set foot in the US!


11 posted on 02/16/2013 7:05:17 PM PST by dalereed
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Is immigration covered by a federal law ? Is breaking federal law a crime ?

Next ....


12 posted on 02/16/2013 7:23:03 PM PST by Squantos ( Be polite, be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet ...)
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To: Squantos

“Illegal”.


13 posted on 02/16/2013 7:35:46 PM PST by ogen hal (First amendment or reeducation camp?)
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To: freekitty
What about accepting welfare monies, health care; etc which you would not be entitled unless you are a citizen?

Definitely a crime. Probably several crimes, because that's not easy to do without using a false ID, making false statements on government forms, etc.

14 posted on 02/16/2013 8:35:57 PM PST by Lurking Libertarian (Non sub homine, sed sub Deo et lege)
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To: Squantos
Is immigration covered by a federal law ?

Yes.

Is breaking federal law a crime ?

Sometimes yes, sometimes no. For example, most people who underpay their taxes have not committed a crime, but they have civilly violated the Internal Revenue Code. The immigration laws likewise include both civil and criminal violations.

15 posted on 02/16/2013 8:41:13 PM PST by Lurking Libertarian (Non sub homine, sed sub Deo et lege)
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To: Lurking Libertarian

You are correct.
Entry without inspection (smeaking across without presenting yourself to a border agent) is a crime.

Visa overstays (legal entry but then staying beyond visa limits) is a civil offense.

Fraudulent entry (fake identity, lying about status) is a criminal offense.


16 posted on 02/16/2013 9:45:54 PM PST by oldbill
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Breaking the law is only a crime when the law-abiding run afoul of the law.


17 posted on 02/17/2013 4:48:13 AM PST by trebb (Allies no longer trust us. Enemies no longer fear us.)
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