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Vanity: Is the UK, the US's closest Ally? Or is that the face they put on?
Myself

Posted on 02/16/2013 9:58:43 PM PST by cab1982

Edited on 02/16/2013 10:01:01 PM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

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1 posted on 02/16/2013 9:58:50 PM PST by cab1982
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To: cab1982

Britain may have once filled the bill but were I to name just one country that has our back, it would be Canada, from the Cold War forward. Sure, they sat out Iraq, but frankly, everyone should have sat out Iraq.


2 posted on 02/16/2013 10:07:14 PM PST by Goldsborough
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To: Goldsborough

I’m Canadian and I would say you are 100% correct. But we will call BS on the US also.


3 posted on 02/16/2013 10:10:03 PM PST by Hypo2
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To: cab1982

Well, some of their media is on our side more than ours is.


4 posted on 02/16/2013 10:10:40 PM PST by Thorliveshere (Tais deau sá taghdedaul!)
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To: cab1982

The US is not a friend to most US citizens. The US is not a friend to anything but Soviet-style AQ-islamists.

Where have you been the last 4 years?


5 posted on 02/16/2013 10:16:55 PM PST by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com (Vendetta))
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To: Goldsborough

The trouble is that Canada is too small to have anyone’s back, militarily or internationally, they can be a friend, and helpful, but they don’t register much on the list of countries that can have your back.

Britain still has some power and reach.


6 posted on 02/16/2013 10:19:17 PM PST by ansel12 (Romney is a longtime supporter of homosexualizing the Boy Scouts (and the military).)
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To: cab1982

British friendship for about the last 95 years has mostly involved how to use the wealth and vast military power of the USA to achieve British ends.
They feel this is natural, because for they are convinced to the point of arrogance that they are morally superior, and more world wise than the USA.

The main reason they jump in with a token force in our military actions, is to have a seat at the table for their senior officers and to be able to influence events in which we do the heavy lifting.

None of this is to disparage British military men at the enlisted and lower commisioned levels, or the many decent British people who count themselves as our friends. But the upper echelons of their Governmental and banking establishment is highly cynical, and is not a friend of the USA.


7 posted on 02/16/2013 10:20:21 PM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: Goldsborough

The fact they let hundreds of planes land in Canada on 9/11, says a lot.


8 posted on 02/16/2013 10:20:32 PM PST by PghBaldy (12/14 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15 - 1030am - Obama's advance team scouts photo-op locations.)
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To: ansel12

Canada is getting very rich. No news from there eh?


9 posted on 02/16/2013 10:21:29 PM PST by eyedigress ((zOld storm chaser from the west)/ ?)
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To: Goldsborough

Agreed about Canada. Probably one of the best friends we have, And in that friendship, it’s usually us not acting like the dependable friend.


10 posted on 02/16/2013 10:23:16 PM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: eyedigress

That would be the time to be very quiet


11 posted on 02/16/2013 10:23:29 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: cab1982

Having gone through somewhat similar experiences on this side of the pond and still having bad feelings towards CPS as a result, all I can say is -it’s not just the UK courts that have it in for you. They may make disparaging remarks about the US, but it is no more pleasant when the CPS courts here assume the worst about you simply because you are a heterosexual male and you have little recourse once they set their sights on you.


12 posted on 02/16/2013 10:24:23 PM PST by Utilizer (What does not kill you... -can sometimes damage you QUITE severely.)
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To: eyedigress

What do you mean?


13 posted on 02/16/2013 10:24:32 PM PST by ansel12 (Romney is a longtime supporter of homosexualizing the Boy Scouts (and the military).)
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To: cab1982

The CS sounds like our Child Protective Services. They seem to be everywhere. Why go to UK when you can be abused by petty bureaucrats right here?


15 posted on 02/16/2013 10:26:07 PM PST by Cyber Liberty (Obama considers the Third World morally superior to the United States.)
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To: Goldsborough

I agree. I like Canada and I think Canada is a very good friend to the USA.

I think Israel is our finest ally.... lately it’s become hard for them to love us.. with Zero at the helm.. sigh :-(


16 posted on 02/16/2013 10:26:30 PM PST by Bobalu (It is not obama we are fighting, it is the media.)
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To: Hypo2
I’m Canadian and I would say you are 100% correct. But we will call BS on the US also.

That's okay, you Canucks export most of your BS to Hollywood. You're welcome.
17 posted on 02/16/2013 10:26:40 PM PST by Goldsborough
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To: cab1982
More like two relatives who squabble from time to time.

However, woe to any non-relative who tries to attack one of them.

18 posted on 02/16/2013 10:26:57 PM PST by Ken H
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Agreed about the British press. For a nation with a government that does the things theirs does, and the fact that they have brought 1984 to life, parts of the British press utterly leave ours in the dust.
Several times this year, i get a far better understanding of an American news story by reading it in the British newspapers.

It’s a weird aspect of this friendship.


19 posted on 02/16/2013 10:27:26 PM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: cab1982

What the hell are you still doing there? I’m sorry to tell you this is widespread in Europe. You would find the same thing in Sweden and Austria. They treat you like crap for several reasons, few of which are worth getting into.

We have deep cultural ties to all of Europe, especially the UK, which is obviously where we get our language from. You have to understand that despite this, a large group of people (possibly a majority) in ALL of these nations despise America. Why? The same reason they despise Israel. The state-controlled media (in Britain, the BBC) is controlled by Marxists who encourage an atmosphere of arrogance. Europeans succumbed to the Social Democrat model of socialism after the fall of the Soviet Union, and it has failed them. Even Germany is on a decline now, as Greece lies in rubble. It’s hard for them to admit this has failed, because for them, it means they have failed. This is why those individuals accused the US of being “backward” for its doctors, despite the fact that the National Health Service is a bankrupt mess providing terrible care in beds crawling with MRSA, various bodily fluids dripping from ceilings. They are trying to make themselves feel better about the state of their nation by attacking you (bear in mind though, the US is not far behind Europe).

What you have in the UK is one of the most decayed cultures in Europe. I would leave as soon as you can. There are some British people who are good-natured and are in tune with what’s going on, but they make up a minority. Most of the population are the product of atheism, perverse culture, government dependency, and a lack of identity.
Think of how you might turn out if you actually believed Obama’s BS, and then woke up one day to find that your identity had been sold to pan-national socialists and invading Muslims, your drip-feed of benefits was gone and you no longer knew how to be a productive citizen, and all that a ‘secular’ society turned away from those ‘old world anti-science’ ideas of faith had brought you was having to cross the street to avoid the gang of feral 12 year olds attacking an old woman. You might just come out of that pretty messed up as well.

Is Britain one of our top allies? No. Not really. Don’t get me wrong, I wish it was. During the Thatcher days, things were very good, but everything has changed. All the UK is now is a pissed off fringe member of the EUSSR, hung with all the neo-Marxist decorations, but a little more whiny than the others. It’s a police state that routinely violates its people’s rights (not that many of them give a damn). They don’t like Americans (especially conservative Americans) because they’ve been told not to, just as they have been told that there is no God, abortion is fun, and gay marriage is a civil right issue. Oh, and don’t forget that third world immigrants make Britain a more ‘vibrant’ society.

I have come to the conclusion that this all won’t change until a total collapse occurs. I’m talking Wiemar. The house must be destroyed and rebuilt again. Come back to America. At least here, there is a cohesive opposition to the progressive socialist cabal. You really have to dig deep to find clear thinkers in the UK.

Sorry your suffering :(


20 posted on 02/16/2013 10:30:22 PM PST by Viennacon
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