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Veterans are receiving letters from VA prohibiting the ownership or purchase of firearms
RedFlagNews.com ^ | Feb 21, 2013 | Michael Connelly, J.D.

Posted on 02/21/2013 8:00:07 PM PST by wesagain

How would you feel if you received a letter from the U.S. Government informing you that because of a physical or mental condition that the government says you have it is proposing to rule that you are incompetent to handle your own financial affairs?

What if that letter also stated: “A determination of incompetency will prohibit you from purchasing, possessing, receiving, or transporting a firearm or ammunition. If you knowingly violate any of these prohibitions, you may be fined, imprisoned, or both pursuant to the Brady Handgun Violence Prevention Act, Pub.L.No. 103-159, as implemented at 18, United States Code 924(a)(2).”?

That makes is sound like something right from a documentary on a tyrannical dictatorship somewhere in the world. Yet, as I write this I have a copy of such a letter right in front of me. It is being sent by the U.S. Department of Veterans Affairs to hundreds, perhaps thousands, of America’s heroes. In my capacity as Executive Director of the United States Justice Foundation (USJF) I have been contacted by some of these veterans and the stories I am getting are appalling.

The letter provides no specifics on the reasons for the proposed finding of incompetency; just that is based on a determination by someone in the VA. In every state in the United States no one can be declared incompetent to administer their own affairs without due process of law and that usually requires a judicial hearing with evidence being offered to prove to a judge that the person is indeed incompetent. This is a requirement of the Fifth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution that states that no person shall “… be deprived of life, .............

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To: Olog-hai

a privilege requires a permit from the provider of the privilege in order to exercise the privilege. the privilege provider can, at any time, withdraw the priviledge at their whim

please explain to me the first step in obtaining a firearm in the US

then explain to me what a right is and how that relates to the second amendment


41 posted on 02/21/2013 10:09:18 PM PST by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: wesagain

“How would you feel if you received a letter from the U.S. Government informing you that because of a physical or mental condition that the government says you have it is proposing to rule that you are incompetent to handle your own financial affairs? “

Sounds like what we believe is the coming Extortion-Care, 2014.


42 posted on 02/21/2013 10:16:11 PM PST by Varsity Flight (Extortion-Care is the Government Work-Camp: Arbeitsziehungslager)
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To: wesagain
A wise freeper in my past saw this coming. It will be anyone on any meds at all or who has ever seen a counselor of any kind, AND anyone with any physical disability, AND the elderly.

The rest will get nailed by super high insurance premiums/riders.

43 posted on 02/21/2013 10:21:14 PM PST by MarMema
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To: wesagain

they will determine your compentcy without your input... then remove your rights... all by mail

mind boggling

of course, what’s the penalty for violating Constitutional rights? nothing. and therefore, they willingly violate without fear.

there really needs to be penalties


44 posted on 02/21/2013 10:25:18 PM PST by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: dragnet2
What privilege are you talking about?

Thanks! That was close. My head almost exploded.

45 posted on 02/21/2013 10:25:28 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (To cut down on needless laws and regulations, engaging in junk science should be a felony.)
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To: cva66snipe

“This policy will do nothing but discourage persons from getting help.”

You said it.......

The freakin gubermint does this stuff all the time....You know the quote......(Hi! I’m from the government and I’m here to help!)

Just sign here and initial these 16 boxes......

LOL!

I fired the VA when Obummer was elected and they started using the VA as a Obama Care experiment. It took them 3 weeks to screw up what it took years to fix under previous admins.. and the VA was no longer a viable option for me. Gave them the Heave Ho.....


46 posted on 02/21/2013 10:26:57 PM PST by Cold Heat
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To: I want the USA back

ping


47 posted on 02/21/2013 10:29:31 PM PST by MarMema
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To: sten
they will determine your compentcy without your input... then remove your rights... all by mail

Then send the sheriff over to kill your dogs and search your home to make sure you have complied.

48 posted on 02/21/2013 10:30:53 PM PST by MarMema
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To: Pride in the USA; Stillwaters

Here’s a giant WTF!


49 posted on 02/21/2013 10:33:32 PM PST by lonevoice (Today I broke my personal record for most consecutive days lived)
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To: SatinDoll

He is a Kenyan, a Muslim, and a Communist. PERIOD. I am totally beyond “re-education”, so Feds don’t even BOTHER trying;) By the way, has even ONE of his former teachers come forward to say “I taught the FIRST BLACK PRESIDENT of the United States”??? What bragging rights would such a teacher have!! Well, WHERE ARE THEY???? This guy has NO BACKGROUND, other than what “he” wrote in “his” book...Stay safe, SatinDoll!!!


50 posted on 02/21/2013 10:35:00 PM PST by Frank_2001
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To: wesagain

save for later


51 posted on 02/21/2013 10:36:41 PM PST by Wasichu
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To: MarMema

What if the sheriff tells ‘em to go piss up a rope?;)


52 posted on 02/21/2013 10:37:31 PM PST by Frank_2001
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To: mrreaganaut; 4mer Liberal; T Minus Four; MHGinTN

Hell to the NO, ping


53 posted on 02/21/2013 10:41:39 PM PST by reaganaut (Kyrie eleison...Christe eleison...Kyrie eleison)
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To: reaganaut

Typical commie bastards will disenfranchise anyone they fear. I just hope the entire military establishment is paying attention. The current regime is the enemy domestic, trying to abort the We The People Constitutional Republic. Of course they’re just following orders meant to end America of sovereign people. G. Edward Griffin was spot on!


54 posted on 02/21/2013 11:05:50 PM PST by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: wesagain; Travis McGee; Jack Black

Travis - just like I said. Use mental health of veterans to disarm.

Jack - this is either a CWII ping or a veterans ping, or maybe both.

Kit


55 posted on 02/21/2013 11:08:20 PM PST by KitJ (Shall not be infringed)
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To: wesagain

How would I feel? Stupid question.

SHOW ME DA LETTER and WHO IS GETTING IT !!!


56 posted on 02/21/2013 11:26:07 PM PST by Pikachu_Dad (Impeach Sen Quinn)
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To: wesagain

How would I feel? Stupid question.

SHOW ME DA LETTER and WHO IS GETTING IT !!!


57 posted on 02/21/2013 11:26:16 PM PST by Pikachu_Dad (Impeach Sen Quinn)
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To: dagogo redux
is, if true, extremely disturbing.

Our first Muslim President is relying on you to remain ignorant and be a complete fool. No adding 2 + 2 or you may figure out his goal is to finish off destroying the US.

Or is it true you haven't a remote clue what Hussein is doing?

58 posted on 02/21/2013 11:36:24 PM PST by politicianslie (Most Americans can't even recognize massive election fraud. Our first Muslim President laughs at you)
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To: jongaltsr

I also thank you for your service.


59 posted on 02/21/2013 11:49:43 PM PST by Jeff Winston
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To: GodfearingTexan
One of the things that pisses me off about this is that the army has made a BIG point about convincing suicidal soldiers that there is no stigma for seeking mental health treatment. And now this?

The government not only lies, it abuses the "weak" in particular, knowing that those who need treatment will be the ones most susceptible to the deception.

60 posted on 02/21/2013 11:52:06 PM PST by Ezekiel (The Obama-nation began with the Inauguration of Desolation.)
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