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Eric Holder: White people have a duty to retreat
Flopping Aces ^ | 07-26-13 | DrJohn

Posted on 07/26/2013 8:24:06 AM PDT by Starman417

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In the wake of the George Zimmerman verdict, Eric Holder addressed the NAACP. During his speech he denounced "stand your ground" laws.

"There has always been a legal defense for using deadly force if — and the 'if' is important — if no safe retreat is available. But we must examine laws that take this further by eliminating the common sense and age-old requirement that people who feel threatened have a duty to retreat, outside their home, if they can do so safely.

By allowing — and perhaps encouraging — violent situations to escalate in public — such laws undermine public safety. The list of resulting tragedies is long and, unfortunately, has victimized too many who are innocent.

"It is our collective obligation. We must 'stand our ground' to ensure that our laws reduce violence and take a hard look at laws that contribute to more violence than they prevent."

Let us not delude ourselves- he means "white people have a duty to retreat." And, of course, white Hispanics.

Never mind that at least 21 states have "Stand your ground" laws.

Never mind that "Stand your ground" laws disproportionately favor minorities.

Never mind that Illinois has a "No duty to retreat law" and Barack Obama voted for it.

What Holder says is that should you find yourself outside your home and you see assailants entering your home where your spouse and kids are, you need to retreat.

And what he really means is white people must retreat. And Roderick Scott is why.

Scott said on April 4, he was sleeping on the couch, because he and his girlfriend had a disagreement. In the early morning he awoke and heard voices. He looked out the front door to see what was going on outside.

He testified he saw three individuals who were in his driveway, saw them walk out and cross the street, then walk up to a neighbor’s vehicle, pulling on the latch and handles of the neighbor’s truck. He then went upstairs, told his girlfriend Tracy that someone was breaking into a vehicle, and told her to call 911. He grabbed his pistol, for which he has a permit, “to protect myself” then went outside.

Scott said his intent was “to stop or detain the criminals,” not to shoot anyone. He walked down the driveway and over to 39 Baneberry Way. He saw one person standing on a sidewalk, and some rummaging going on inside a vehicle, which had the dome light on.

At that point, Scott testified he pulled his handgun out of the holster, and chambered a round. “I wanted to protect myself and I intended to,” Scott said.

He walked toward the individual, who started to walk away toward Manitou Road. He did not tell that individual to stop. It’s believed that individual was Brian Hopkins.

At this point, Scott was a foot or so off the sidewalk, and he saw someone rustling around inside the vehicle at 39 Baneberry. He testified he clearly saw two individuals. He drew his pistol and assumed the a shooter’s stance. “I didn’t know what I was up against, or if they were armed,” Scott said.

He told the individuals to stop, that his girlfriend had called 911, and that he had a gun. The individuals stopped, and a few seconds passed. Scott says the teens were talking, then one of them ran around the front of the truck. The other ran down the driveway toward him, screaming. Scott warned him he had a gun, then shot him.

He assumed the boy may have been armed.

“I felt if he got to me he would try to kill me or hurt me,” Scott testified.

After the shooting, Scott said Cervini, who was running at him, kept running, passed by him, and fell face-first onto the ground.

This is an Attorney General of the United States who is occupied primarily with what he calls "my people."

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TOPICS: Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: blogpimp; holder; holderracist; obama; standyourground; zimmerman
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1 posted on 07/26/2013 8:24:06 AM PDT by Starman417
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To: Starman417

This is a common theme in the progressive mind, that White people, (which means conservatives or people who follow the laws and culture) are to retreat from their attacks.

All of their attacks and any of their attacks.

If they disagree with you on Twitter, for example, and get into a pissing match, you are to retreat or they will report you for abuse.

In each and every arena in life- you are to retreat, as they want you to at that moment- (because their change their pivot) or they scream rape.

Progressives are extremely imbalanced and dangerous people.


2 posted on 07/26/2013 8:28:44 AM PDT by Truth2012
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To: Starman417

When you’re pinned to the ground and being assaulted repeatedly by a thug on drugs and your head is being cracked open (front and back) you have to no ability to “retreat”. That was when the gun was pulled and fired.

To merely show the gun would be “brandishing a weapon” and a criminal offense.

Meanwhile the police didn’t give two sh!ts when 2 hispanic yutes pulled a gun on me, called me nigger, and demanded I drop to the ground and empty my pockets.

I filed a report and it never even appeared in the map of reported criminal activity in my neighborhood.

FUEH


3 posted on 07/26/2013 8:30:15 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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To: Truth2012

Eric Holder to rape victims “Lie back and take it.”


4 posted on 07/26/2013 8:30:50 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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To: Starman417

I always thought “duty to retreat” laws were passed so black people could not defend themselves against Klan attackers.

Klan at the front door, you were expected to retreat out the back door.

And guess who was waiting there!


5 posted on 07/26/2013 8:32:36 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Sometimes you need 7+ more ammo. LOTS MORE.)
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To: a fool in paradise

Right-ONLY if they are conservatives.


6 posted on 07/26/2013 8:33:34 AM PDT by Truth2012
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To: Starman417
I have a typical scenario for you to analyze.

You are jumped, hit in the nose, your nose is broken and you find yourself on your back, unable to get up and with your head being repeatedly bashed into the concrete. You start to wonder whether you are going to survive if this continues.

Question: Should you retreat?

7 posted on 07/26/2013 8:34:03 AM PDT by InterceptPoint
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To: Starman417

Malcolm Reynolds: “So no more runnin’. I aim to misbehave.”


8 posted on 07/26/2013 8:34:06 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (21st century. I'm not a fan.)
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To: Starman417

Where’s the outrage that Travon did retreat?


9 posted on 07/26/2013 8:35:00 AM PDT by DannyTN
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To: Starman417

Where’s the outrage that Travon did retreat?


10 posted on 07/26/2013 8:35:01 AM PDT by DannyTN
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To: Starman417

“We don’t hang horse thieves because they stole a horse. We hang them so that horses won’t be stolen.”


“It is essential to forgive all horse thieves, and they can best be forgiven after they are hanged.”


11 posted on 07/26/2013 8:35:37 AM PDT by MarineBrat (Better dead than red!)
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To: Starman417

There is no “duty to retreat”.

It’s a fabrication.

We all know what the Big Black Man really means: Black people have a right to assault White people, and they have no right to resist.


12 posted on 07/26/2013 8:36:07 AM PDT by Regulator
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To: Starman417
Nevermind that "no duty to retreat" is the old default, goes back to the 1800's anyway. The "duty to retreat" is a relatively new (progressive) incursion into a personal right.

As usual, liberals reinvent (make up) history by casting a return to the default as some new innovation, when the fact is, the public is merely rejecting the deprivation of personal rights that the liberals forced on an unwilling populace.

13 posted on 07/26/2013 8:36:43 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Starman417

Retreat?

No, Reload!


14 posted on 07/26/2013 8:36:58 AM PDT by meyer (What would John Hancock do?)
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To: Starman417
A duty to retreat? WTF, over?

Get the hell off my yard!

15 posted on 07/26/2013 8:37:10 AM PDT by GBA (Our obamanation: Romans 1:18-32)
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To: a fool in paradise

“The list of resulting tragedies is long and, unfortunately, has victimized too many who are innocent.”

Where can I see this list?


16 posted on 07/26/2013 8:37:18 AM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: Truth2012

Again, the antipathy toward “whiteness” is simply a proxy for hating God’s Laws.

It’s not about your skin color, it’s about the culture and what it’s based on.


17 posted on 07/26/2013 8:37:35 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Criminal bums that are OF COLOR have a duty to get a fxxxing job and not attack people, or suffer the consequences of getting blasted.


18 posted on 07/26/2013 8:37:50 AM PDT by spawn44 (MOO)
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To: Starman417

Even if such a law were in effect, how exactly was Zimmerman supposed to retreat when he was on the bottom of the fight, and his head was being bashed in? Where exactly was he supposed to retreat to?


19 posted on 07/26/2013 8:38:32 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: Starman417
Anybody, of any race, of any age, who thinks I am going to take a beat down is going to learn a painful and perhaps permanent lesson on the ballistic characteristics of a 230 grain hollow point, 45 ACP.

Duty to retreat my a$$..........

20 posted on 07/26/2013 8:38:44 AM PDT by Envisioning (It's the Jihad, stupid......)
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