Skip to comments.As Cruz hews to hard line, other 2016 contenders go mute on shutdown
Posted on 10/12/2013 5:08:48 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
Tensions between Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas) and other potential 2016 presidential contenders over the government shutdown were visible just beneath the surface at Friday's Values Voter Summit in Washington, D.C.
Cruz fired up the conservative crowd with a demand that they double down in their fight against ObamaCare, ripping establishment Republicans as well as Democrats for opposing him in his quest.
But even in the aftermath of Cruz's fiery speech, others shied away from any discussion of the high-profile confrontation.
The shutdown went unmentioned by Sens. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) and Marco Rubio (R-Fla.), both early champions of the defunding battle.
Rep. Paul Ryan (R-Wis.), who is working toward a compromise with the White House on the shutdown and debt ceiling that does not erode ObamaCare, made a short argument for his alternate plan in Friday afternoon video message to the group.
The GOP leaders' avoidance of the high-profile battle at the conference was an important illustration of the delicate position in which they find themselves.
The conservative base loves Cruz for his defunding push and "with us or against us" mentality, but polls show the effort is hurting the Republican brand.
Paul's and Rubio's dodges, and Ryan's implicit rebuke, demonstrate that they are seeking to avoid being tainted by the fight's fallout while avoiding any confrontation with the partys base.
Cruz used his speech to frame the debate over ObamaCare and the government shutdown in stark terms, painting it as a key battle in the larger war for individual freedom.
(Excerpt) Read more at thehill.com ...
They will let Cruz get as far out on the branch as possible, then they will cut off the branch.
Make no mistake, everything the GOP is doing is to destroy Cruz.
The reason the “Republican Brand” is being hurt by Cruz is because he has demonstrated that the Republicans by and large are just a bunch of gutless hypocritical cowards.
The liberals hate the GOP because they are not democrats. Conservatives hate the GOP because they are not Republicans.
Except for Peter King R(NY). He was on MSNBC bashing Cruz and speaking like a repub candidate for 2016.
I would like to know if these are the same “polls” that show how much everyone loves obamacare? Communist aholes
I think the elitist appeasing Republican establishment has pretty much sealed its fate. They aren’t going to get those ‘independent’ moderates, they aren’t going to get blacks, nor are they going to get Hispanics no matter how much they appease. They are forever relegated to second-tier power and status because they as a national party have lost conservatives pretty much forever at this point.
I really couldn’t give a rat’s patootie about he GOP any more. Only to the extent that we can extort actions like this shutdown, etc. will I tolerate them. No money, not votes, no nothing for any GOPe anymore.
My vote, support and money are now only for Conservatives.
King is auditioning for the token Republican seat in the next Democrat cabinet and like many out here in fly over country, he knows Cruz is probably the only Republican that stands a snowballs chance in Hell of winning
Yesterday on CNN saw him riffing and heard the favorable crowd reactions while I had a breakfast sandwich at McDbag, he was definitely on the vik’!
[snip] Paul’s and Rubio’s dodges, and Ryan’s implicit rebuke, demonstrate that they are seeking to avoid being tainted by the fight’s fallout while avoiding any confrontation with the partys base. [/snip]
If Cruz or Palin are not eh presidential candidates at this point in time I guess I will be writing in a name.
None of the others impress me a bit.
I agree with your assessment about the demise of the “elitist appeasing Republican establishment.” Just one thing to note: the RNC continues to fund raise using voices like McCain in letters to rail about the far-left Dem agenda. The disconnect between the fund raising letters and their actual rhetoric in DC is astounding. They now how the base feels, but are completely unwilling to represent the base in DC.
Sometimes people are more interested in what a politician doesn’t do than they are about what they say they will do.
By the time 2016 rolls around history will have validated that attempting to stop Obiecare will have been worth the shutdown and many will wish that the battle had been more vigiorusly engaged.
Rush put it so well Friday: The GOP should be doing everything to make their best customer base (conservatives, grass roots, Tea Party) happy and coming back, but they aren’t.
Yes. Yes. Yes.
So do we vote for the balless and the gutless?
So I guess we know who we have to vote for, CRUZ 2016
Nah, GOP is the right wing of the Democratic party.
Assuming Cruz sticks to the hardline, it would be a good test candidate to see if there is sufficient support for a real conservative in the GOP.
What a bunch of gutless cowards. No wonder Sen. Cruz stands out as a leader. They have only themselves to blame for his success.
The Republican Party will not win elections without the conservative base, so who is really responsible for its demise?
And that is their great dilemma. They want us to go away (a few are rooting for Obama to make us look clueless and toothless) but we now are considered more powerful than their business (monied/lobbyists) constituency, and they are well aware that we will remove them ASAP unless they move to the right.
At this point, Cruz is the ONLY candidate I will consider in 2016. I don’t care what party he runs for. The GOP is dead to me. Hopefully he runs as the standard bearer of a new party.
Cowards all—with ABSOLUTELY NO CONCEPT of politics anymore.
Agree to a point...the consultant/staffer class hates Cruz.
This is the group that remains “unnamed sources” and do great harm to every conservative.
I dont think Paul or Rubio are going after Cruz...they wanted a more “positive” message.
Both Paul and Rubio are for the so called amnesty bill too.
Rubio lost many political friends over his stance for amnesty. Time will tell if this is a permanent loss for him.
Paul, while good on some issues, has a problem of floating off on other issues. He will never be president but could do great harm if Cruz is the nominee..by going 3rd party. Time will tell.
Currently most conservatives are concentrating on 0bamacar and rightly so.
The RINOS are just waiting for the right moment to stab him and go back to doing what they were doing before. Cruz had them cornered along with the democrats but its just a matter of time until they find a weak spot and finish him off. They will then go on all the talk shows and vilify him. I will never vote for a RINO again, ever. We need to take the party back one conservative at a time.
Getting word that House GOP not backing down
Jonathan Strong @j_strong 13m
GOP Members woke up to find an email from Heritage calling the latest plan "surrender plus higher spending"
The others are not real men. Make no mistake about it, they are girly men. Leaders are made, not born, and Cruz is a leader.
This! is an awesome speech and I encourage all to watch/listen!
Elect no mealy mouthed traitors, only straight talkers like Palin and Cruz
WOW he really is impressive
Maybe the McCain generation of republicans are just jealous of Cruz being he is stealing thier show?
That role is to FUND OBAMACARE, RAISE THE DEBT CEILING, REOPEN GOVERNMENT AND REVERSE SEQUESTER CUTS... Thanks for nothing!
Then they must be eliminated as possible candidates for ANY office even dog catcher!
BINGO, rubio RINO, ryan RINO, christie RINO all sold to us as conservatives. Wolves in sheep’s clothing.
It's times like these that one see's what true courage looks like!!!
It's astonishing that none of the Republicans are hammering the Dems on the shutdown now, since the House Republicans offered full funding of ObamaCare, contingent upon all exceptions and waivers being stripped out.
It's the most effective arrow in the GOP quiver, but they refuse to touch it. That reeks of elitist complicity.
So true. None of them will cry over Cruz’s demise.
That’s why Cruz is the only viable candidate for me!
He’s our Cuban Reagan to get us out of the Kenyan Carter disaster
...in the aftermath of Cruz's fiery speech... The shutdown went unmentioned by Sens. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) and Marco Rubio (R-Fla.), both early champions of the defunding battle. Rep. Paul Ryan (R-Wis.), who is working toward a compromise with the White House on the shutdown and debt ceiling that does not erode ObamaCare, made a short argument for his alternate plan in Friday afternoon video message to the group... Paul's and Rubio's dodges, and Ryan's implicit rebuke, demonstrate that they are seeking to avoid being tainted by the fight's fallout while avoiding any confrontation with the partys base. Cruz used his speech to frame the debate over ObamaCare and the government shutdown in stark terms, painting it as a key battle in the larger war for individual freedom.Sounds like Reagan to me. I'm old and jaded, and was fired up from the four or five minutes that I heard while munching breakfast at McDbag's yesterday.
Rand Paul (R-Ky.), Marco Rubio (R-Fla.), Paul Ryan (R-Wis.):
All wussies and sell-outs to the GOPe
“Polls show the effort is hurting the Republican brand”:
Only according to their fixed “polls”. We, here in flyover country, love Cruz!!
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