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Obamacare wants YOU!
Legal Insurrection ^ | December 15, 2013 | neo-neocon

Posted on 12/16/2013 12:05:27 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

Once-privileged New Yorkers who supported Obamacare are discovering that Obamacare means they’ll be losing some of their privileges:

"Many in New York’s professional and cultural elite have long supported President Obama’s health care plan…They are part of an unusual, informal health insurance system that has developed in New York, in which independent practitioners were able to get lower insurance rates through group plans, typically set up by their professional associations or chambers of commerce…

But under the Affordable Care Act, they will be treated as individuals, responsible for their own insurance policies. For many of them, that is likely to mean they will no longer have access to a wide network of doctors and a range of plans tailored to their needs. And many of them are finding that if they want to keep their premiums from rising, they will have to accept higher deductible and co-pay costs or inferior coverage."

For this group, will the experience constitute the proverbial being “mugged by reality” and cause them to change their political affiliation? Perhaps for some, but probably not for most, since it takes a great deal to effect political change on a more permanent basis.

Soon many doctors will be getting the same bad news, too:

"The medical society has not yet formally notified its solo practitioners, because their insurance plans do not expire until April. But those letters will be going out soon, officials said."

And lawyers:

"Ms. Meinwald, the lawyer, said she was a lifelong Democrat who still supported better health care for all, but had she known what was in store for her, she would have voted for Mitt Romney."

How could this woman not have already known what “was in store for her”? Also, although a bleeding-heart liberal, she seems to vote only on how something affects her. Where’s your liberal altruism, lady? Or maybe she’s coming to suspect that the whole thing’s a scam, and that Obamacare doesn’t actually benefit the majority of people.

Was Meinwald under the impression that you could add millions of people to the insurance rolls, give them subsidies, not raise taxes, and everyone would come out ahead? Maybe she thought the only losers would be the fat cats, and that she wasn’t quite fat enough. Turns out she was.

If this group wants to know why this is happening to them, the article contains an explanation [emphasis added]:

"…[M]any of the New York policies being canceled meet and often exceed the [Obamacare] standards, brokers say. The rationale for disqualifying those policies, said Larry Levitt, a health policy expert at the Kaiser Family Foundation, was to prevent associations from selling insurance to healthy members who are needed to keep the new health exchanges financially viable.

Siphoning those people, Mr. Levitt said, would leave the pool of health exchange customers “smaller and disproportionately sicker,” and would drive up rates."

Contemplate that for a moment. It’s one of the clearest and most succinct examples of the callous and manipulative mindset behind Obamacare and social engineering in general. People are pawns to be moved around on a large board: we needed these people here, so liberty and choice can be jettisoned for them.

We said they could keep their plans? Tough. We said later that the plans that were cancelled as a result of Obamacare were only the “junk,” substandard ones? Well, guess what: we lied. Tough again.

It’s for the greater good, after all: Uncle Obamacare wants YOU. As the august Nancy Pelosi would say, “embrace the suck.”


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Conspiracy; Government; Health/Medicine
KEYWORDS: associations; democrats; medicine; newyork; obamacare; obamacareanecdotes; obamacaredisallows; youcankeepit

1 posted on 12/16/2013 12:05:28 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

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2 posted on 12/16/2013 12:30:44 AM PST by Therapsid
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Happiest is being never exposed to Obumbocare. I am satisfied with my traditional hospitalization insurance.


3 posted on 12/16/2013 1:15:20 AM PST by AlexW
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I have what is called by Obama a Cadillac Plan. Rates for 2014 won’t be going up and I’ll keep paying my 20% of the cost of the policy.

I expect next year my employer will ‘dumb the plan’ down in order to keep from paying a 40% tax on the 80% they pay now.


4 posted on 12/16/2013 1:34:00 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Or maybe she’s coming to suspect that the whole thing’s a scam, and that Obamacare doesn’t actually benefit the majority of people.

ObamaCare does not benefit the majority, but no serious person expected that to happen.

ObamaCare does not save money for the majority, but no serious person could have expected to cover more people, with more mandatory coverages, with the young subsidizing their older and wealthier neighbors and that costs would go down.

ObamaCare does not even help those currently without insurance, although that is the one tiny corner of this massive power grab that some low-information voters might reasonably have believed. Instead of being denied medical care when needed (something that is currently illegal), these people will now be sent to their in-network provider, who will likely be so overloaded that the care will often be delayed until it is no longer needed. The poorest among us will get worse care, although they will have a little card with a policy number claiming they have insurance. At least they will have "free" birth control.

Who wins? Only those in power who want more power and those crony capitalists with the connections to profit off of all the money flowing through a monstrosity that used to be the world's greatest medical system.

5 posted on 12/16/2013 2:24:42 AM PST by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Obamacare wants YOU!

TO GET IN MAH OVENS...


6 posted on 12/16/2013 3:07:38 AM PST by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: Pollster1
"Contemplate that for a moment. It’s one of the clearest and most succinct examples of the callous and manipulative mindset behind Obamacare and social engineering in general. People are pawns to be moved around on a large board: we needed these people here, so liberty and choice can be jettisoned for them."
yeah.."and some animals are more than equal"..just desserts, lady
"You wanted change, you *jingles of coins* got it."

7 posted on 12/16/2013 3:19:53 AM PST by skinkinthegrass (The end move in politics is always to pick up a gun..0'Caligula / 0'Reid / 0'Pelosi :-)
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As affluent RATS, they won life’s genetic lottery—but they were still born stupid.


8 posted on 12/16/2013 5:09:21 AM PST by SC_Pete
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
How could this woman not have already known what “was in store for her”?

This is a classic case of projection by the writer. Don't ever assume someone has common sense...always wait until they prove it to you. I'd rather assume someone who I was dealing with was a bleeding moron instead of making a mistake in judgement assuming someone could think critically. Those commie yankees deserve everything they have coming to them. Wait until the new commie governor gets up and running.

9 posted on 12/16/2013 5:31:14 AM PST by gr8eman (How ya doin Bob?...Bitchen!)
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To: AlexW
Happiest is being never exposed to Obumbocare. I am satisfied with my traditional hospitalization insurance.

Don't worry, Alex, someone will come along and ask how you are doing this and you can then proudly say that you, unlike the stateside-bound scum, live in The Philippines and are immune from Obamacare.

Living abroad is, after all, your claim to fame, now isn't it?

10 posted on 12/16/2013 5:59:09 AM PST by OldPossum ("It's" is the contraction of "it" and "is"; think about ITS implications.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

To make this perfectly clear:

Q: Why do the HHS standards for “health insurance” policies require coverage for prostate care for women and pap smears for men [that everyone ridicules]?

A: To ensure that all previous health insuance policies could not be “grandfathered” in, and would have to be cancelled, and thus the policy holders would have to buy an Obamacare policy.


11 posted on 12/16/2013 8:12:11 AM PST by Mack the knife
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