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The American Flag Daily: Alexander Hamilton
The American Flag Daily ^ | January 11, 2014 | FlagBearer

Posted on 01/11/2014 1:11:13 PM PST by Master Zinja

Today is the traditional birthdate of Alexander Hamilton, one of the Founding Fathers of the United States, who signed the Constitution, authored many of the Federalist Papers in support of the Constitution's passage, was Secretary of the Treasury under George Washington, and whose portrait is currently on the U.S. $10 bill. He died in 1804 following a duel with Aaron Burr.

"The fabric of American Empire ought to rest on the solid basis of THE CONSENT OF THE PEOPLE. The streams of National power ought to flow immediately from that pure original fountain of all legitimate authority." -Hamilton, Federalist No. 22


TOPICS: Education; History; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: alexanderhamilton; constitution; federalistpapers; foundingfathers; theframers
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1 posted on 01/11/2014 1:11:13 PM PST by Master Zinja
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To: Master Zinja

He was an amazing man. Probably a genius.


2 posted on 01/11/2014 1:39:06 PM PST by Jacquerie (Article V.)
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To: Master Zinja

My recent readings include some interesting mentions of AH...

While the McCullah book and Adams miniseries paint him as a France hater....

But, that contrasts with my current readings of the Culper spies, which mentions Hamilton’s actions, as Washington’s top aid, in support of logistics for helping French ships arriving to help the revolutionary cause.


3 posted on 01/11/2014 1:55:00 PM PST by C210N (When people fear government there is tyranny; when government fears people there is liberty)
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To: Master Zinja; Jacquerie
I went to a museum in New Hampshire this morning and saw this:

Interesting face. He was a brilliant, and flawed man, but...he did the right thing for our country at a time when it was needed.

He is not loved by many Freepers, but I feel pretty secure in saying he would be horrified at the way our government is being run.

As he argued so pervasively in The Federalist Papers for his point of view on government (he was the major contributor) on a strong federal government, but this government would be a monstrosity in his eyes.

4 posted on 01/11/2014 1:57:01 PM PST by rlmorel ("A nation, despicable by its weakness, forfeits even the privilege of being neutral." A. Hamilton)
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To: C210N

Hamilton and Jefferson hated each other passionately, but I admit, the more I learned about the both of them, the more I liked Hamilton and the less I liked Jefferson.

Jefferson stabbed Washington in the back by anonymously spreading stories that Washington was a doddering, easily manipulated, and disengaged leader.

Washington found out from an unimpeachable source who was behind it, and confronted Jefferson directly, and let him know in no uncertain terms that he was aware of what Jefferson had been doing (in his attempts to get back at Hamilton) and that socially, they were finished.

It was said that while he and Jefferson would speak to each other in public settings, Washington never again spoke to Jefferson or saw him privately.


5 posted on 01/11/2014 2:04:00 PM PST by rlmorel ("A nation, despicable by its weakness, forfeits even the privilege of being neutral." A. Hamilton)
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To: Jacquerie

Keep asking people why do we have Amendments 11-27 if Congress can simply legislate everything?


6 posted on 01/11/2014 2:24:31 PM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: rlmorel
I read that Hamilton wanted an "elective monarchy".
From the Wikipedia:

An attempt to create an elective monarchy in the United States failed. Alexander Hamilton argued in a long speech before the Constitutional Convention of 1787 that the President of the United States should be an elective monarch, ruling for "good behavior" (i.e., for life, unless impeached) and with extensive powers. Hamilton believed that elective monarchs had sufficient power domestically to resist foreign corruption, yet there was enough domestic control over their behavior to prevent tyranny at home.[3] His proposal was resoundingly voted down in favor of a four-year term with the possibility of reelection. In his later defense of the Constitution in the Federalist Papers, he often hints that a lifetime executive might be better, even as he praises the system with the four-year term.

7 posted on 01/11/2014 2:28:22 PM PST by Dalberg-Acton
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To: Dalberg-Acton

Yes...and Adams was accused of being a monarchist.

Given what he wrote in the Federalist Papers, it is seems likely to me that he had a change of heart.

If he didn’t have a change of heart, he was one heck of an intellect to take the stand he did so persuasively if he didn’t support it, because that is a tough thing to do.


8 posted on 01/11/2014 2:33:56 PM PST by rlmorel ("A nation, despicable by its weakness, forfeits even the privilege of being neutral." A. Hamilton)
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To: Dalberg-Acton

I guess he had a normalcy bias when it came to a monarchy


9 posted on 01/11/2014 2:53:29 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: rlmorel

wasn’t the national bank also his really bad idea?


10 posted on 01/11/2014 2:54:17 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: GeronL
it was indeed....People were putting their money in the bank with one hand and taking it out with the other.

If he had his way...we'd have a dictator for life along with Senators for life, the states would have no rights...etc etc

And yet he was a patriot. It's the "what else was he" that should rattle the history books.

11 posted on 01/11/2014 3:19:54 PM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: rlmorel
From John Adams' Defense of the Constitutions of the United States:

All nations, under all governments, must have parties; the great secret is to controul them: there are but two ways, either by a monarchy and standing army, or by a balance in the constitution. Where the people have a voice, and there is no balance, there will be everlasting fluctuations, revolutions, and horrors, until a standing army, with a general at its head, commands the peace, or the necessity of an equilibrium is made appear to all, and is adopted by all.

12 posted on 01/11/2014 3:43:20 PM PST by Jacquerie (Article V.)
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To: GeronL

Also large public works projects to build a perpetual public debt. Owed, of course, to his masters in the banking sphere.


13 posted on 01/11/2014 3:44:50 PM PST by Dalberg-Acton
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To: GeronL; Sacajaweau

It was his idea, a very good one. There was no better institution from which to pay state and continental debt and provide a uniform currency.


14 posted on 01/11/2014 3:51:21 PM PST by Jacquerie (Article V.)
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To: Master Zinja

Born in interesting times not sure if it was Jamaica or Bermuda. But the reference to the constitutional requirements of natural born citizen for presidential qualifications may have been directed at him.


15 posted on 01/11/2014 3:51:45 PM PST by mosesdapoet (Serious contribution pause.Please continue onto meaningless venting no one reads.)
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To: Dalberg-Acton
The mixed government of Great Britain was widely admired, by anti-federalist patriots no less than John Adams and Patrick Henry. Hamilton was not derided by fellow delegates after his speech on June 18th 1787.

The ideas presented at the constitutional convention ranged from next to no government under the existing Articles of Confederation to Hamilton's sketch. All had the best interests of the United States in mind.

16 posted on 01/11/2014 3:57:32 PM PST by Jacquerie (Article V.)
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To: rlmorel

I admire Washington and hoped Jefferson’s battle of ideas would prevail, but Hamilton’s ideas of centralized federal power have prevailed today. awesome book on hamilton http://www.amazon.com/Hamiltons-Curse-Jeffersons-Revolution-Americans/dp/0307382850


17 posted on 01/11/2014 4:16:56 PM PST by patriot5186
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To: patriot5186
I'm reading Kochs' Jefferson and Madison and find that Hamilton had many of the ideas that are contrary to the doctrine of limited government. It looks like Hamilton's ideas have prevailed over those of Jefferson, Madison, and Monroe.
18 posted on 01/11/2014 5:57:00 PM PST by vetvetdoug
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To: Jacquerie; rlmorel; mosesdapoet

I wholeheartedly agree.


19 posted on 01/11/2014 7:18:59 PM PST by SunkenCiv (http://www.freerepublic.com/~mestamachine/)
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To: rlmorel
He is not loved by many Freepers, but I feel pretty secure in saying he would be horrified at the way our government is being run.

That is a certainty.

Unfortunately, there's no shortage of both shallow hit pieces on AH and soaring, angelic praise for Jefferson. As you say, all men are flawed. Both of them had strengths and weaknesses. Both advanced the cause of republican freedom when a failing nation needed them.

20 posted on 01/12/2014 2:01:04 AM PST by Jacquerie (Article V.)
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