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United, Delta and USAir suspend flights to Israel - UPDATE FAA BANS US FLIGHTS, EUROPEANS FOLLOW
Israel Matzav ^ | 7/22/14 | Carl in Jerusalem

Posted on 07/22/2014 11:37:42 AM PDT by Nachum


United, Delta and USAir have suspended all flights to Tel Aviv's Ben Gurion Airport after a Hamas rocket this afternoon landed in Yahud, some 5 kilometers from the airport (Hat Tip: NY Nana). The White House says that it did not order the flights suspended, but Delta said it made its decision in coordination with the Federal Aviation Administration.
Delta said it suspended service to and from its New York JFK hub "until further notice," while the Israel Airports Authority would only confirm that the carriers had suspended flight scheduled for Monday. US Airways has not yet released a statement.

United announced it was also suspending flights to and from Tel Aviv until further notice.
Transportation Minister called on American aviation companies to return to normal functioning, stressing that Ben-Gurion airport was safe from for take-offs and landings, and that there was no security concern for passenger planes.

"There is no reason for the American companies to stop their flight and give a prize to terror," he said.

Though media had reported that the US Federal Aviation Authority had ordered the cancellations, it did not issue any new guidance on flying through the region. The airline companies had acted on their own authority.

An order from the FAA could have had far greater repercussions for Israel's economy.
"As soon as the FAA gives such an order to US carriers, in most cases it's a domino effect, and most European carriers will be forced to suspend their flights," said an industry source.

Regardless, the source added, "This is a huge coup for Hamas."

Tourism accounts for about 5% of Israel's exports, and has already declined as a result of the rocket fire from Gaza.

According to Channel 2, Israeli and American flight officials are reportedly trying to come to an understanding regarding the US concerns over rocket fire.

Israel contends that the Iron Dome rocket defense system, which has proven to be 90% effective during Operation Protective Edge, is also capable of intercepting projectiles in the area of Ben-Gurion Airport.

The rocket which landed in the courtyard of a home in Yehud on Tuesday, causing damage and leaving two people lightly injured, marked the first direct hit in the greater Tel Aviv area since the Gaza operation began more than two weeks ago.

There is an answer, but so far only El Al has bought into it.  American Airlines (which recently merged with USAir) decided six years ago that the solution was too expensive.

UPDATE 8:44 PM

The FAA has now banned all US airlines from flying here for the next 24 hours and Air France, KLM and Lufthansa have all said that they won't fly here either.
"The FAA immediately notified US carriers when the agency learned of the rocket strike and informed them that the agency was finalizing a [Notice to Airmen]" prohibiting the flights.

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Delta diverted flight 468 from JFK with 273 passengers and 17 crew, Paris-Charles de Gaulle "after reports of a rocket or associated debris near the airport in Tel Aviv," and said that it was working to re-accommodate its customers.

While the FAA does not have jurisdiction over European or other international air carriers, the decision may lead to other cancellations.

"As soon as the FAA gives such an order to US carriers, in most cases it's a domino effect, and most European carriers will be forced to suspend their flights," said an industry source. "This is a huge coup for Hamas."

Air France suspended all flights to and from Israel due to "security reasons linked to the evolution of the local situation," Reuters quoted an airline spokesman as saying.
Lufthansa, Swiss Air, and KLM also suspended flights to Ben Gurion.

The US issued a travel warning against traveling to Israel or Gaza this morning. Nevertheless, over 200 North American immigrants arrived here today.


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1 posted on 07/22/2014 11:37:42 AM PDT by Nachum
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To: Nachum

Is this actually a global Israeli boycott?


2 posted on 07/22/2014 11:39:24 AM PDT by stars & stripes forever (Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord.)
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To: Nachum

Adding another discussion, for reference ...

Two U.S. airlines suspend Israel flights after rocket attack near airport [FAA suspends all flights]
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3183565/posts

http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/1.606534

7:41 P.M. The FAA prohibits all U.S. airlines from flying to and from Ben-Gurion International Airport “for a period of up to 24 hours.”

5:57 P.M. Delta Airlines and U.S. Airways suspend flights to and from Israel on Tuesday. This follows a warning from the Federal Aviation Authority given after a rocket fell earlier Tuesday in Yehud, near Ben-Gurion International Airport. United Airlines announced it will continue operating as usual.

A Delta Airlines flight from New York to Israel landed in Paris following the decision. U.S. Air has relocated planes currently at Ben-Gurion airport tonight’s planned flight has been canceled. (Zohar Blumenkrantz)


3 posted on 07/22/2014 11:40:43 AM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: stars & stripes forever

It’s more like not wanting another “Ukraine” ...


4 posted on 07/22/2014 11:41:33 AM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Nachum

Well if they really want to help, they’ll just stop any and all future service to Israel. That should make ham-ass happy. Kind of go along with the divestment strategy that’s been tossed around. Obie don’t care. VN war hero john f’n kohn-heinz-kerry don’t care. Of course, after the Ukraine shoot down one can’t be too careful.


5 posted on 07/22/2014 11:42:15 AM PDT by rktman (Ethnicity: Nascarian. Race: Daytonafivehundrian)
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To: stars & stripes forever
Is this actually a global Israeli boycott?

That is exactly what it means. Jingiss Khan Kerry called Hussein Obama for a little backup.
6 posted on 07/22/2014 11:42:56 AM PDT by Tzfat
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To: Nachum
This just gives Bibi a window to clean house in Gaza.
7 posted on 07/22/2014 11:44:41 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("The man who damns money obtained it dishonorably; the man who respects it earned it." --Ayn Rand)
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To: Star Traveler
It’s more like not wanting another “Ukraine” ...

Sheesh, stop with that crap. Do a little research on air service into Israel over the past 20 years and you will see that what goes on in Gaza and Lebanon has not interrupted air service into Tel Aviv in the past. This is something different and it has nothing to do with SAMs.
8 posted on 07/22/2014 11:44:49 AM PDT by Tzfat
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To: Star Traveler
It’s more like not wanting another “Ukraine”
I think you're right - who knows what missiles 0bama or Iran has provided to these insane head choppers.
9 posted on 07/22/2014 11:44:53 AM PDT by dainbramaged (Get out of my country now)
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To: Nachum

FAA bans flights to Israel for 24 hours-US urges deferral of travel, increases first aid to Gaza
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3183589/posts

http://www.jpost.com/Operation-Protective-Edge/Report-US-considering-grounding-flights-to-Israel-amid-rocket-threat-368492

Decision comes after Delta, US Airways and United Airlines cancel flights due to rocket fired from Gaza causing damage in Yehud, some 5 kilometers from Ben-Gurion Airport

The US Federal Aviation Authority on Tuesday banned US flights from traveling to and from Ben Gurion Airport for 24 hours after a Hamas rocket landed in Yehud, near Ben Gurion Airport, earlier in the day.

“The FAA immediately notified US carriers when the agency learned of the rocket strike and informed them that the agency was finalizing a [Notice to Airmen]” prohibiting the flights.

American aviation companies Delta, United said they were suspending flights to Israel “indefinitely,” while the Israel Airports Authority confirmed that US Airways had suspended flights for the night.

Delta diverted flight 468 from JFK with 273 passengers and 17 crew, Paris-Charles de Gaulle “after reports of a rocket or associated debris near the airport in Tel Aviv,” and said that it was working to re-accommodate its customers.

While the FAA does not have jurisdiction over European or other international air carriers, the decision may lead to other cancellations.

“As soon as the FAA gives such an order to US carriers, in most cases it’s a domino effect, and most European carriers will be forced to suspend their flights,” said an industry source. “This is a huge coup for Hamas.”


10 posted on 07/22/2014 11:44:54 AM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Star Traveler

Yes, especially since the Israelis have their act together and it would be Hamas responsible for any lost airliner. So, basically, the ban is there to protect Hamas from hurting itself.


11 posted on 07/22/2014 11:45:19 AM PDT by tanknetter
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To: stars & stripes forever

Occam’s Razor: They don’t want their planes flying in a zone where missiles are flying all over the place...


12 posted on 07/22/2014 11:46:19 AM PDT by Wyatt's Torch
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To: Nachum

My friend was supposed to fly to Israel tomorrow with 2 of her grandchildren. Now she has to wait til Friday to see what schedule changes can be arranged.


13 posted on 07/22/2014 11:47:03 AM PDT by EinNYC
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To: Tzfat

“Ukraine” = crashed plane, dead passengers ...

People tend not to care what brings their plane down, when they’re in it ... only that they’re about to die in a crash!


14 posted on 07/22/2014 11:48:20 AM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Nachum

But flights over ukraine get a free pass, assuming that the russians don’t shoot them down that is.


15 posted on 07/22/2014 11:51:15 AM PDT by factoryrat (We are the producers, the creators. Grow it, mine it, build it.)
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To: Star Traveler

Pat yourself on the back. Keep it up, Hamas likes fear mongering.


16 posted on 07/22/2014 11:51:41 AM PDT by Tzfat
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To: tanknetter

You know ... the public is funny that way ... They may know there are good guys and bad guys “shooting it out “ and they will wish the good guys God’s speed in doing what they have to — BUT — that doesn’t mean that they want to be “in the middle of the flying bullets”! ... :-) ...


17 posted on 07/22/2014 11:52:19 AM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Nachum; flaglady47; ExTexasRedhead; Maine Mariner
This will have the opposite intended effect.

The Israeli's will only double-down on their attacks now, since Hamas quickly throwing in the towel seems to be the only option left.

This edict by the U.S. airlines to me is a boon for our side. The Israeli's are too dependent on their airports to withstand a boycott for long. Now they have to go for broke!

GO BIBI !

18 posted on 07/22/2014 11:52:44 AM PDT by MinuteGal
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To: MinuteGal

Baruch Hashem, Israel will show the world how to treat a boycott from Hussein Obama - double down.


19 posted on 07/22/2014 11:54:41 AM PDT by Tzfat
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To: Tzfat

It’s called safety for your own person and your family. No one, unless they’re a complete idiot and don’t care, is going to unnecessarily put those in their care in harm’s way ... no matter whose ox is gored or what their political persuasion is!


20 posted on 07/22/2014 11:54:43 AM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: EinNYC
My friend was supposed to fly to Israel tomorrow with 2 of her grandchildren.

Let's all do exceptionally stupid things.

21 posted on 07/22/2014 11:55:18 AM PDT by steve86 ( Acerbic by nature, not nurture)
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To: Star Traveler

Blame lawyers, they know if anything happens the lawsuits will fly right and left.


22 posted on 07/22/2014 11:55:21 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: dfwgator

And rightfully so ... I would be running for a lawyer too, if one of my family was killed by the negligence of an airline!


23 posted on 07/22/2014 11:57:43 AM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Tzfat
Oh please. Don't cross the street then. Funny, I thought you supported the State of Israel. Have you been there recently? Even when in a "war zone" Israel is safer than most American cities. That includes Ben Gurion Airport. The airlines are concerned about liability. There is also HUGE money in Tel Aviv routes. It is one of the lucrative routes out of the US. It beats European destinations.

This is an Obama boycott of Israel.
24 posted on 07/22/2014 12:00:00 PM PDT by Tzfat
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To: Wyatt's Torch

Thanks for the common sense. It used to be common here


25 posted on 07/22/2014 12:00:44 PM PDT by Textide
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To: Nachum

I wonder if the US government appreciates the irony of this. They ignore the daily shelling and rocket attacks that Israelis have to put up with and continue to tell Israel to negotiate and not retaliate. Then when a rocket lands near the airport, the FAA bans travel. Are the Hamas rockets a danger or not? Make up your mind.


26 posted on 07/22/2014 12:04:45 PM PDT by Opinionated Blowhard ("When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.")
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To: Textide

“It’s more like not wanting another “Ukraine””
The separatists had downs quite a few Ukrainian Air Force planes before the disaster with the airliner. They hit at least one transport, a fighter, a couple helicopters. that was an obvious active air war. How many IAF planes have Hamas taken down? I didn’t hear of any. So are we saying that IAF is “just that good” or that Hamas hasn’t deployed any air defense weapons? The chances that Hamas would take down an airliner are mo more today than any day since Obama gave them all those stingers.


27 posted on 07/22/2014 12:07:13 PM PDT by thorvaldr
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To: Nachum
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ElAl 777 inbound from Heathrow now. Appears to be only traffic from Europe at this moment.

28 posted on 07/22/2014 12:07:15 PM PDT by keat
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To: MinuteGal

Nice. You are a speed thinker and probably quite correct!


29 posted on 07/22/2014 12:07:17 PM PDT by RitaOK ( VIVA CRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming.)
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To: steve86
Let's all do exceptionally stupid things.

The Land of Israel is always the right thing for Jewish people. Consider the entire Middle East - a cesspool of radical Islam. Atrocities abound. Then there is the tiny Land of Israel. It is what America used to be, and better: a shining example of a wise, intelligent nation of people who were chosen by the Creator of the Universe to point the way to the only Sovereign King of the Universe.

In a region of hate, Jews exhibit self-sacrificial love that can be described as nothing short of amazing. In a tiny country, in the middle of a vast region, Israel alone produces amazing technology. The desert of Jordan is contrasted by Israel that not only feeds itself from its abundance, it feeds its enemies as well.

As this current conflict exhibits, Israelis show how to be successful in protecting their own, and even avoiding unnecessary deaths in the families of their enemies.

Going to Israel is always a wise destination. Read your Bible.
30 posted on 07/22/2014 12:09:35 PM PDT by Tzfat
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It should be noted there have been rumored attempts at blinding pilots emanating from the West Bank.

31 posted on 07/22/2014 12:10:57 PM PDT by SJackson (government tampers with a freedom so fundamental, one shudders to think what lies ahead. Card Dolan)
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To: keat

can you fly to London and then book a flight to Israel on El Al who has the rocket detector?


32 posted on 07/22/2014 12:11:05 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: Tzfat
This is an Obama boycott of Israel.

Tend to agree, due to the absolute zero chance of a rocket hitting an aircraft. Obama and Kerry have their apartheid rally caps on right now.

33 posted on 07/22/2014 12:11:44 PM PDT by keat
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To: RummyChick

Yes. El Al flights are always full. Perhaps they will lease some more aircraft now...


34 posted on 07/22/2014 12:12:21 PM PDT by Tzfat
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To: RummyChick
can you fly to London and then book a flight to Israel on El Al who has the rocket detector?

Sure.

35 posted on 07/22/2014 12:12:32 PM PDT by keat
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To: stars & stripes forever

“Is this actually a global Israeli boycott?”

My exact first thought also...but in reality, it is a continuation of the BDS boycott the Obama adm and Kerry instigated against Israel months ago. No doubt Kerry had a hand in this little maneuver also.

I appreciate the liability argument, but this ban is meant to punish Israel. Israel will be undeterred in what it needs to do to establish safety for its citizens.


36 posted on 07/22/2014 12:13:29 PM PDT by thouworm
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To: thorvaldr

That’s what happens when you get a disaster in one area ... it causes people to be cautious elsewhere.


37 posted on 07/22/2014 12:18:11 PM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Star Traveler
Hamas is very happy. Mission accomplished.

Flight ban could be Hamas' biggest success in latest clash
38 posted on 07/22/2014 12:21:13 PM PDT by Tzfat
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To: Star Traveler

Then shut down flights to El Paso. The Zetas have lots of old Mexican Army weapons maybe they have some stingers.


39 posted on 07/22/2014 12:21:23 PM PDT by thorvaldr
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To: thorvaldr

Have they been shot off in the vicinity of an airport?


40 posted on 07/22/2014 12:23:52 PM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: stars & stripes forever
Is this actually a global Israeli boycott?

No. This is a very lucrative route. I flew it a month ago on Delta and the planes were totally full going and coming. This is an excess of caution but understandable considering what happened last week.

41 posted on 07/22/2014 12:24:12 PM PDT by jalisco555 ("My 80% friend is not my 20% enemy" - Ronald Reagan)
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To: stars & stripes forever
actually a global Israeli boycott

If the U.S. administration was really worried about Tel Aviv, they would just advise diverting to Haifa.

This ban is entirely political, a slap to Israel for defending itself and a boost to Hamas terrorism.

42 posted on 07/22/2014 12:28:57 PM PDT by Kennard
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To: Tzfat

No, it’s not an Obama plot. The attack may have been supported by Obama, but closing the airport is reasonable and maybe even a little overdue. Some pilots have been refusing to fly that route and I’m sure a lot of passengers have cancelled.

The Tel Aviv airport has been a target for some time, and unfortunately Hamas has been having unprecedented success in this latest attack. They tried shelling the airport last week but the missiles met the Iron Dome. However, this week somehow they managed to get one through.

I was supposed to be visiting the Holy Land in October, and I’m hoping this will have calmed down by then. But if not, I’m not going.


43 posted on 07/22/2014 12:30:08 PM PDT by livius
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To: Tzfat

I posted it ...


44 posted on 07/22/2014 12:30:32 PM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Tzfat
Going to Israel is always a wise destination. Read your Bible.

Fallacy of literalism.

45 posted on 07/22/2014 12:30:34 PM PDT by steve86 ( Acerbic by nature, not nurture)
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To: tanknetter
So, basically, the ban is there to protect Hamas from hurting itself.

Seriously? Have you missed the recent events in Ukraine???

Take off the tin foil ... it's to prevent another passenger jet from being blown out of the sky.

46 posted on 07/22/2014 12:31:12 PM PDT by Right_in_Virginia
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To: RitaOK

This is blackmail by Obama pure and simple. We will ruin your tourism economy if you do not agree to a ceasefire on our terms. What Bibi must do is double down, throw more troops into Gaza, wipe out Hamas and do it fast with overwhelming force. Then there will be no missile fear excuse that OBama and his EU cohorts can use to not fly into Israel if Hamas has no more missiles or is out of business in Gaza. Of course Obama will pour money into Gaza to rebuild it. He is already doing so at our taxpayer’s expense.


47 posted on 07/22/2014 12:34:59 PM PDT by flaglady47 (The useful idiots always go first)
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To: steve86

Funny. Even atheists that visit Israel are impressed. Even people with especially small minds are impressed.


48 posted on 07/22/2014 12:35:43 PM PDT by Tzfat
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To: Tzfat

God Bless and keep Israel safe.


49 posted on 07/22/2014 12:36:05 PM PDT by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: Nachum
Why aren't flights to Russia banned until the Russians come clean about the shoot down of the Malaysian airline?

I think if all flights to and from Russia were halted, including banning Russian airline flights to the West, they would quickly allow Western experts to examine the crash sight and the flight recorders. And not to mention sealing off of the crash site and preventing looters from gaining access to it.

50 posted on 07/22/2014 12:36:44 PM PDT by StormEye
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