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Ebola Play-Out Scenarios in the United States
Self ^ | 10/2/14 | Self

Posted on 10/02/2014 8:27:26 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom

I'm surprised that I haven't seen any wargaming thoughts on how Ebola Virus is going to play-out in the US in the coming weeks, months and years. Watching how Duncan was managed in Texas does not give me any confidence that the feds or state health authorities have a clue what to do and are totally disorganized and unprepared. This is surprising given the fact we've had almost 40 years of knowledge of and experience with hemorrhagic viruses from Central Africa including Marburg, Lassa, and Ebola. You'd think that every health agency in the country would have figured out how to respond to this rapidly and effectively.

How do you think Eboloa is going to play out in the U.S. I'd enjoy hearing from the smartest collection of people on the web on your prognostications. How will this affect our health, our standard of living, our travel, our freedoms, our families, our jobs, the supply of products on store shelves, the willingness of people to go to work, peoples' faith? Will people be willing to congregate anywhere in even small numbers? Or will people hunker down until it burns out?

Will it spread like wildfire after inept attempts by incompetent government to control it? Or will government do the right thing quickly enough to get this under control?

If it spreads rapidly, how quickly will we exhaust all isolation wards, all medical personnel, all medical supplies (including simple things like bandages and bed linens, mattresses, pillow cases, as well as complex things like Biosafety Level 4 suits)? Will the medical industry be able to research, produce and get to market an effective vaccine quickly enough to slow down the spread? Based on the AIDS experience, this would seem to be wishful thinking.

How will all the dead bodies be disposed? Do we need to build huge incinerators? Would the authorities possibly euthanize infected people before their organs turn into puddles of hot mush?

Will the virus mutation rate in the trillions of cells in each affected person make it's spread more efficient? Will it explode geometrically or exponentially?

Will tourism quickly collapse as people fear staying in hotel rooms where other strangers have stayed or out of fear of getting onto an airplane or train compartment with contaminated surfaces that simply cannot be disinfected?

Will colleges and universities collapse as students stay at home?

What will society look like after this is over?

Will this finally lead to adults being voted back into leadership positions in the country, adults who take our nation's safety seriously? Will this lead to the final demise of the Democrat and Republican parties? Could this lead to dictatorship? Will people finally wake and realize that you need serious, experienced executive leadership to run the States and Nation?

Will this possibly lead to the final end of "politically correct" thought? Will the masses of people finally get back to the practical realization that all cultures are NOT equal? Is this the end of "multi-cultural" PC thought?


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; Health/Medicine; Politics
KEYWORDS: catastrophe; collapse; ebola; shtf
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1 posted on 10/02/2014 8:27:26 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

With all the major screw ups in handling this Ebola crap in Dallas...I’m sure ISIL-ABCD or other Islamic jihadists are taking notes...and probably laughing their Muslim a$$es off.


2 posted on 10/02/2014 8:31:31 PM PDT by Dallas59
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To: Dallas59

Yep. And there are probably dozens of jihadis in infected spots in Africa picking up the disease and headed for our shores. They get their virgins for their martyrdom...we get wiped out.


3 posted on 10/02/2014 8:36:54 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: ProtectOurFreedom
Will this finally lead to adults being voted back into leadership positions in the country, adults who take our nation's safety seriously? Will this lead to the final demise of the Democrat and Republican parties? Could this lead to dictatorship? Will people finally wake and realize that you need serious, experienced executive leadership to run the States and Nation?

That was funny...did you mean that as sarcasm?
4 posted on 10/02/2014 8:48:37 PM PDT by DJlaysitup
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To: ProtectOurFreedom
Will this finally lead to adults being voted back into leadership positions in the country, adults who take our nation's safety seriously? Will this lead to the final demise of the Democrat and Republican parties? Could this lead to dictatorship? Will people finally wake and realize that you need serious, experienced executive leadership to run the States and Nation?

That was funny...did you mean that as sarcasm?
5 posted on 10/02/2014 8:49:46 PM PDT by DJlaysitup
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To: DJlaysitup

I was trying to come up with some bizarre, completely outlandish scenarios. That one was pretty far out there, I have to admit. What would it take to finally get the LIVs and Gibsmedats to vote for serious leaders? 10 million dead? 20 million?


6 posted on 10/02/2014 8:53:02 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: ProtectOurFreedom
An infected jihadi probably won't make it. They will likely pick the unwitting to carry it across the pond. Service industry. Transportation, Hotels. Restaurants.

With the amount of American jihadis (because we are such bad-asses allowing Somalians, Ghanians, and Nigerian muslims to immigrate here), they will advise the leadership about FLU SEASON in the USA, and a culture that commutes 6-50 miles a day to work; not the 4-block culture of Liberia.

RV + 6 mos food/water + mojave desert. Just thinking out loud.

7 posted on 10/02/2014 8:58:47 PM PDT by Salvavida (The restoration of the U.S.A. starts with filling the pews at every Bible-believing church.)
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To: Salvavida

I’ll be in the next canyon over sending you smoke signals.


8 posted on 10/02/2014 9:02:15 PM PDT by bgill (CDC, "we still do not know exactly how people are infected with Ebola")
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

Time to move to Africa were the infection and survival rates will be better.


9 posted on 10/02/2014 9:03:08 PM PDT by justa-hairyape (The user name is sarcastic. Although at times it may not appear that way.)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

I think the following is pretty close to what we can expect, especially since Dallas shows that people act like people world over. Read it at your own risk. Midnight is here and the morning doesn’t look to be bright.

Does the Ebola virus constitute an existential risk?

http://www.flutrackers.com/forum/showthread.php?t=228267


10 posted on 10/02/2014 9:04:13 PM PDT by Gadsden1st
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To: ProtectOurFreedom
Will it spread like wildfire after inept attempts by incompetent government to control it?

I have gamed it. We are not Africa. We have winters. Fomites will be the death of urban centers in winter environments. Imagine one person vomiting, in the snow and at a bus stop. They are of course on their way to a hospital. How do you contract trace the spread after the first time.

The answer is simple. Freeze the 13,500 visas and lockdown the boarders. Locking down the boarders is actually quite easy and voluntary. The will to do so is something else, with the false gods of progressivism.

I have gamed it. I am finishing my preps.
11 posted on 10/02/2014 9:09:57 PM PDT by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the Occupation Media.)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

I was talking to the wife tonight about these convenience stores owned by immigrants. Say a worker comes it with no symptoms. While stocking the shelves he vomits. If this is reported the store will be shut down and all the contents destroyed. Do you think the owner would report it?

Personally, I hope we’re being told the truth and this will be stopped. But I’m not convinced. I can see public events cancelled. No football. No concerts. Movie theaters closed. Even churches. No large gathering of people anywhere. And the national guard at every intersection. Everyone ordered to shelter in place.


12 posted on 10/02/2014 9:14:37 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican (Liberals were raised by women or wimps. And they're all stupid.)
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To: Gadsden1st

Thanks. I tend to agree with the author’s conclusions as well. I’m wondering what the nation and society will look like if we lose 1% of our people; 5%; 10%; 25% or maybe 50%. Complete societal breakdown occurs at what point? When do people stop going to work and producing food, clothing, energy, housing? When does open warfare break out among the survivors?

I am reminded of the film “The Road” which I watched a couple years ago. I thought it was a real stinker at the time, but boy does it look realistic now.


13 posted on 10/02/2014 9:17:23 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

Positive upside, maybe there will be a coup and the Muslim sisterhood will hang


14 posted on 10/02/2014 9:17:48 PM PDT by Viennacon
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To: PA Engineer

Just when do you bug out? Now? Next month? When you have a case in your state? Your county?


15 posted on 10/02/2014 9:18:58 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: PA Engineer

I live in Florida. I remember so clearly when I saw Katrina turn into the Gulf. My son, with new born premie twins lived in New Orleans. I called him and told him to leave NOW. He boarded up and got out before the roads became parking lots.

I fear the entire world is now facing a Katrina. There is no place to run to. We can only prepare, batten down, and wait it out.

The time to stop it in Africa is long past. The rate of increase is greater than any governments can deal with. We will have more time here, but make no mistake, it IS comming.


16 posted on 10/02/2014 9:20:01 PM PDT by Gadsden1st
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To: VerySadAmerican

Yes, people will stop congregating voluntarily. But government “shelter in place” orders for how long? 40 days? 6 months? A year? Who will deliver food? Who will work to produce and deliver food, water, power, and remove sewage?

Exposed people must spend 30 days in “The Slammer” isolation at Ft. Detrick and a good number go insane...after only 30 days. The people locked in the apartment in Dallas are already going nuts.


17 posted on 10/02/2014 9:23:10 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

I say ebola is media sensationalism. We’ve been scared with bird flu word flu turd flu and MRSA, swine flu bine flu pine flu and SARS, hanta virus, banta virus, panta virus and now ebola virus. The very next time there’s a disease that isn’t brought over the border, they will be cooking up all sorts of fears.

It isn’t any different than the OJ Simpson, or how they ramped up before the Branch Davidians were exterminated for their own good, or what the planned to do with the Unibomber trial that never happened because of a plea bargain. Ebola, more after these messages.

It doesn’t change the fact that only a few more than 3000 people have died in an epidemic in Africa, out of hundreds of millions of people who live on the continent. You just know that the liberals in the media are salivating at wet-dream proportions in anticipation of the death of millions of Americans, and then they would get all of the abandoned stuff. Of course it won’t happen, but they will exaggerate the deaths of elderly and otherwise immunocompromised people to make it seem like a huge disaster, and we will all turn on our TVs to the major networks to see what they have to say.

And while we are waiting for real news, we can watch the important messages from the sponsors, and since they have 30 minutes to fill, you can watch the latest Democrat propaganda. So keep playing into their hands and pray that their wish comes true, and that millions of liberals succumb to their epidemic of choice.


18 posted on 10/02/2014 9:24:16 PM PDT by webheart (We are all pretty much living in a fiction.)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

I’m really afraid of this.

The one thought that lingers in the back of my mind is—How long before it’s ALL gone?

All this globalism sure had a dark side, didn’t it?

If they don’t contain this I’m picturing complete anarchy and social upheaval.

Chaos and incinerators on the edge of every town.

Lawless gangs of people the likes of which we’ve never even imagined capitolizing on it.

I’ve had many ugly nightmares about the future.

Ebola could turn them into reality.


19 posted on 10/02/2014 9:24:38 PM PDT by Califreak (Hope and Che'nge is killing U.S.)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

Most nurses make a good income, typically middle class moms with kids at home and with a built-in nurturing/protective mentality - it’s why they became nurses.

They won’t expose their own children to Ebola.

If this moves past isolated events, the much vaunted first world health care system that will supposedly lead to a different outcome here: it will collapse in hours when few health care workers show up to work.

I wonder what kinds of incentives Dallas Presbyterian is handing out right now to staff their one patient.

Would YOU go to work everyday in your neighborhood hospital’s Ebola ward?


20 posted on 10/02/2014 9:26:37 PM PDT by ziravan (Choose Sides.)
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