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Time for V.P. Joe Biden to Relieve Barack Obama of Presidential Duties
Lawrence Journal world ^ | October 15, 2014 | Reasonmclucus

Posted on 10/17/2014 12:44:38 PM PDT by kathsua

Increasingly even many Democrats are recognizing that the American ship of state is foundering. It's Captain seems out of touch with reality. The Captain may be stressed out or the problem may be more serious.

The American people are losing confidence in President Barack Obama's leadership. Movie Director Michael Moore says Obama has only one accomplishment. "100 years from now: 'He was the first black American that got elected president.' And that's it."

Republican voters are increasingly vocal in their calls for impeachment. There is a less divisive way of dealing with a situation in which a president is out of touch with reality because of stress or other reasons.

The 25th Amendment assigns the Vice President the responsibility of monitoring a president's condition and reliving a president who has become unable to handle the duties of the office.

've been concerned about Obama's mental state since the budget crisis a few years ago when he became irrationally obsessed with keeping World War II veterans from visiting their memorial. If he had been worried about protecting the memorial, I'm sure there are hundreds of military retirees in the vicinity of the District of Columbia who would have been willing to volunteer to protect the memorial.

I initially dismissed Obama's childish sounding comment about the navy during the Denver presidential debate as possibly being due to the affect of alcohol at high altitude. Now I think the comment could indicate he is out of touch with the real world.

"You mentioned the Navy, for example, and that we have fewer ships than we did in 1916," President Obama said. "Well, Governor, we also have fewer horses and bayonets, because the nature of our military's changed. "We have these things called aircraft carriers, where planes land on them. We have these ships that go under water, nuclear submarines," he said.

Both aircraft carriers and submarines were used in World War I. The inability to protect ships from German submarines forced the United States to enter World War I. In 1916, the British navy was the free world's protector. Now the United States navy needs to play that role. This role requires a bigger navy than the United States had a century ago.

Politico has reported that "The West Wing has a preferred, authorized distillation of the president’s foreign-policy doctrine: 'Don’t do stupid [stuff]'. The phrase has appeared in The New York Times three times in the last four days. [prior to 06/01/14] So, if the White House’s aim was to get the phrase in circulation, mission accomplished!" "Don't do stupid [stuff]" sounds more like something Wally would say to his younger brother Beaver on the old "Leave it to Beaver" television show than the basis of a serious foreign policy. No wonder Obama had trouble finding a strategy to deal with ISIS.

Obama's highly publicized coffee cup salute demonstrated an apparent lack of awareness of where he was or what was happening around him. He was getting off a Marine helicopter when he returned a salute by Marines with a hand that held a coffee cup. . Military protocol says that a salute should not be returned while holding something in the hand. Obama has gotten off the helicopter possibly hundreds of times. He should be aware of the procedure by now and be aware that the media often watches him get off. He should have known Marines would be standing guard at the bottom of the steps and transferred the cup to the other hand or simply nodded his head to acknowledge the salute.

The incident might seem minor, but such socially inappropriate actions can be an early sign of dementia. Although Obama might seem a little young to be affected by dementia, many of us believe he might have risk factors for dementia. His Lincoln like build could indicate he has Marfan's syndrome which can cause fatal heart attacks. Many of us believe he is an alcoholic which is another risk factor for dementia. Alcoholism can be inherited. Obama's father was an alcoholic and Obama admits to heavy drinking in the past.

Dementia can be difficult to diagnose because "in the beginning, AD and other forms of dementia can resemble normal aging." Obama wouldn't be the first president to have some form of dementia. Ron Reagan reports that Alzheimer's was already affecting his father, President Ronald Reagan, during the second administration.

Psychology expert Dr. Gina Loudon goes so far as to say she has become “very, very concerned” that President Obama has become “irrational, erratic and perhaps not exactly what we might want to deem sane.”

On the other hand, Obama might just be stressed out. The pressures of the office may have become so great, he is no longer able to cope effectively with his situation.

Critics complain that he is taking too many vacations or spending too much time playing golf. These critics fail to consider that vacations and golf may be the only way Obama can cope with the extreme pressures he is under. Obama is having to deal with more pressure than any president who didn't have to deal with a major war. He continues to struggle to learn how to get sufficient support for his measures in Congress.

Numerous members of his administration have let him down, including Secretary of State Hillary Clinton with her foolish decision to not bring the Ambassador to Libya to Washington to keep him from becoming a target for a 9/11 anniversary terror attack.

Republicans are calling for impeachment, but impeachment would be very divisive and wouldn't be appropriate if Obama's deficiencies are due to a mental condition. Impeachment is a political decision with partisan concerns often overriding the issue of improper actions.

The 25th Amendment procedure is designed to deal with a situation where a president's condition may prevent limit his ability to handle the nation's problems. The procedure protects a president from a situation that could have potentially fatal consequences.

Historians believe that the stress of dealing with various scandals killed President Warren G. Harding. The stress of dealing with Watergate nearly killed President Richard Nixon. Fatigue from pushing the concept of the League of Nations temporarily incapacitated President Woodrow Wilson. Many historians believe his condition was so bad that his wife became the nation's virtual president.

If the stress of the presidency is adversely affecting Barack Obama's health, it would be irresponsible to not relieve him. The procedure for relieving a president under the 25th Amendment can be temporary. If Obama is merely stressed out, a temporary leave of absence could allow him to eventually return to office.

In observing President Obama the last few years I feel similar to Mr Scoff on the original Startrek series when he could sense the engines weren't functioning properly, but he couldn't tell why. Mr. Obama doesn't seem to functioning properly, but I'm not sure why. I don't know whether it's just too much stress or something more serious.

He hasn't looked well for the last month or so. Some of the video I saw of him a month ago resembled the appearance of someone who's recently been treated for cancer, although I'm sure it that were the case we would have been told. We men have a tendency to cover up health problems. We not only don't we tell our doctor, we may lie to ourselves and say nothing is wrong.


TOPICS: Government; Health/Medicine; History; Politics
KEYWORDS: 25thamendment; barackobama; dementia; joebiden; livingbodyarmor; michaelmoore; plugs; remove
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The author expects too much from Biden. He wouldn't remove Obama if Obama started running around wearing a cape and claiming to be superman. The only way we'll get rid of Obama is to elect a Republican Senate that will vote guilty in an impeachment trial.

Considering the season, I wonder if Obama is the first zombie president.

1 posted on 10/17/2014 12:44:38 PM PDT by kathsua
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To: kathsua

Right now, anybody could do a better job than Obama is doing. Even that crazy Rimshot Joe.


2 posted on 10/17/2014 12:46:14 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Ebola and Enterovirus-D68. Proud members of Viruses Without Borders.)
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Right now, anybody could do a better job than Obama is doing. Even that crazy Rimshot Joe.

The difference, I fear, would be minimal. Biden would be ineffective, but wouldn't intend to be. Obama is ineffective, and fully intends to be, because effective responses to the issues of the day would have to be responses that go against his ideology.

3 posted on 10/17/2014 12:49:03 PM PDT by chajin ("There is no other name under heaven given among people by which we must be saved." Acts 4:12)
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To: kathsua

You lost me at “Ron Reagan says” FRiend. I wouldn’t believe that sniveling, back-stabbing queer if he told me that water was wet.


4 posted on 10/17/2014 12:49:35 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (The question isn't who is going to let me; it's who is going to stop me.)
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To: kathsua

There’s a tad too much speculation in that article IMHO.

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5 posted on 10/17/2014 12:51:56 PM PDT by Mears
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To: kathsua

The Caine Mutiny.


6 posted on 10/17/2014 12:53:38 PM PDT by HandyDandy (Don't make-up stuff. It just wastes everybody's time.)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

7 posted on 10/17/2014 12:53:51 PM PDT by Sirius Lee (All that is required for evil to advance is for government to do "something")
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To: kathsua

Im stuned this ever saw the light of day in Liberal Lawrence.


8 posted on 10/17/2014 12:54:18 PM PDT by rdl6989
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To: kathsua
"100 years from now: 'He was the first black American that got elected president.' And that's it."

"And that's it" is preferable to "and he killed half the U.S population with his gross mismanagement of a deadly epidemic"

9 posted on 10/17/2014 12:56:51 PM PDT by Mygirlsmom (Liberalism: Promising Utopia - Delivering Detroit)
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To: kathsua

The Janitor or Gardner at the Whit House would do a much better job


10 posted on 10/17/2014 1:02:07 PM PDT by molson209 (Blank)
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To: Mears

No aircraft carriers in World War I.


11 posted on 10/17/2014 1:02:58 PM PDT by AceMineral (One day men will beg for chains.)
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To: kathsua

Why do you think Obama picked Joe Biden as his vice-president? The only rational reason is that Biden is impeachment insurance. As long as he is vice-president, I’d move to impeach anyone who attempts to impeach Obama, as bas as he is.


12 posted on 10/17/2014 1:05:46 PM PDT by bagman
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That’s the ticket. Take someone who is stupid and put someone who is even *more* stupid into office. That’ll fix all of our problems. And with Boehner as VP, nothing will stop the country from recovering. We are saved!


13 posted on 10/17/2014 1:07:00 PM PDT by Politicalkiddo (Our obligations to our country never cease but with our lives.- John Adams)
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To: AceMineral

If there were no aircraft carriers in World War 1, then how did the Germans bomb Pearl Harbor? Even I know that much history.


14 posted on 10/17/2014 1:07:28 PM PDT by bagman
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To: kathsua

At least it might disrupt things from the present course. There aren’t even speed bumps right now.

Please call congress and tell them that we must be deadly serious about containing Ebola by strict quarantine within the United States and from infected nations. This is our right and our duty and it is THEIR duty to protect US.

Capitol switchboard is 202-224-3121 or Google your congressman or senator and get his contact information and call him / her office directly. You can also call or go to their local offices.

I believe decisive response is urgent because you can’t put this Ebola genie back in the bottle once it gets out. It is a fire, it consumes all the fuel it can get and the fuel is people. The only way to stop a fire is to block it from the fuel or cool it with water. A vaccine or medicine to treat Ebola would be the water and we don’t have reliable, enough or any.

Every possible measure must be taken to stop the spread before draconian measures are imposed. What is being done now is sloppy. We are walking a dangerous road. The threat is blossoming by the day if not hour. Almost every hour there is some new Ebola development and none of them are good. This is a serious and potentially deadly event. Unchecked it could destroy or weaken the United States and facilitate our destruction by others. It has that potential for every country and that is why so many are responding with such strict quarantines. These consequences, no matter how small the probabilities, demand a full effort and significant response.

Ebola is being spread here in the United States right now. First Texas, then Ohio then? Terror is an excellent weapon. It disrupts, confuses, paralyzes and destroys a society. Many others and we on FR have speculated that terrorists may spread Ebola. How do you that remember 9/11 feel right now compared to what you felt then? Do you want to gather your loved ones near you to protect them? I do. Even more than I did on September 11, 2001! Isn’t this passive response by this administration accomplishing the very same things a terrorist would want?
When something is being done that makes as little sense as what Obama is doing there has to be some other reason. I leave it to you dear reader to draw your own conclusions as to the reasons.
What is happening now is insane. It makes no sense at all. For example the head of CDC says: “Stopping travel from Africa won’t do any good because you have to get people into Africa to fight Ebola.” “You can’t get Ebola from an infected person on a bus but an infected person should never be on a bus because he can infect others.” “Blocking travel from infected countries would damage their fragile economies.” What about ours? What about our safety? What about resources we have paid for that should be protecting us?

Even the most despotic dictatorship in Africa has acted to protect his nation by strict quarantine and stopping travel from infected countries. Even CDC, the UN and WHO advocate and credit strict quarantine for nipping the spread of Ebola in the bud at the source in places like Senegal and Nigeria where both have had faster and more successful outbreak controls than we have had here. 35 countries have stopped travel of people from infected West African countries. It is so obvious even a child could understand it so why is it OK for people from infected countries to travel here?
I will post this message and keep posting it until someone stops me.

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15 posted on 10/17/2014 1:07:34 PM PDT by Sequoyah101 (You can't get Ebola on a bus but if you are infected you can give Ebola to someone on a bus. WTH?)
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To: kathsua

We will get rid of Obama in 2017. If he is replaced by Hillary, things will only get worse.


16 posted on 10/17/2014 1:08:07 PM PDT by pallis
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To: kathsua
The 25th Amendment assigns the Vice President the responsibility of monitoring a president's condition and reliving a president who has become unable to handle the duties of the office.

Yeah, like Biden has the courageous do invoke that.

17 posted on 10/17/2014 1:08:15 PM PDT by Robert DeLong (u)
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To: kathsua

I just remembered the ending of “Of Mice and Men”

Weird


18 posted on 10/17/2014 1:09:11 PM PDT by Califreak (Hope and Che'nge is killing U.S./CDC=Contagion Distribution Center)
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To: chajin
Obama is ineffective, and fully intends to be, because effective responses to the issues of the day would have to be responses that go against his ideology.///

He is not trying to be ineffective. He is trying to transform this nation to a third world country and that makes him appear to be demented.

The problem is that too many people ignore his promise to do that very thing. The only way he can seem to do what is good for this country, is make decisions that make sense. That, he has never done. I believe he never will. JMHO

19 posted on 10/17/2014 1:09:36 PM PDT by Know et al (Keep on Freepin'!!!)
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To: kathsua

Okay, but who will relieve Joe of whatever duties he has?


20 posted on 10/17/2014 1:11:19 PM PDT by x
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