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But wait, there’s more: Fifth video shows Gruber mocking Vermonters
Watch Dog ^ | Bruce Parker

Posted on 11/14/2014 3:42:28 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife

".....In the 2011 video shot by TrueNorthReports.com and sent to Watchdog.org on Thursday, Gruber appears before the Vermont House Health Care Committee to present recommendations for a universal, publicly financed health care program. The recommendations were part of the 2011 “Hsiao Report” submitted to the Legislature by economist William C. Hsiao and co-written by Gruber.

As Gruber sits listening, the committee chair reads a comment from a Vermonter who expresses concern that the economist’s plan might lead to “ballooning costs, increased taxes and bureaucratic outrages,” among other things.

After hearing the Vermonter’s worries, Gruber responds, “Was this written by my adolescent children by any chance?”

The remark was met with uproarious laughter.

The video is the fifth in string of videos to surface this week in which Gruber publicly mocks citizens or boasts of his use of deception in crafting health care policies. Gruber is being paid $400,000 by the state of Vermont to advise Gov. Peter Shumlin on how to finance Act 48, Vermont’s single-payer health care law. His recommendations will be presented to the Vermont Legislature in January.

Contrary to Gruber’s snarky insult, the comment was not written by an adolescent.

“It was actually written by a former senior policy adviser in the White House who knew something about health care systems,” said John McClaughry, a two-term Vermont state senator and adviser to President Ronald Reagan in the 1980s.

McClaughry, who wrote the comment in an op-ed weeks before the 2011 committee meeting, told Vermont Watchdog he did not know Gruber made the condescending insult. However, he was aware of other videos discovered this week in which Gruber boasted of writing deceptive policies to trick “stupid” American voters.

“No one should trust this man. … Based on the rest of the stuff that’s come out on the videos, nobody can trust this guy. He has no use for transparency, he thinks people are stupid, and he’ll do anything to get this thing through and pocket his $400,000. That’s not in the interest of the people of Vermont,” McClaughry said.........


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; Health/Medicine; Politics
KEYWORDS: aca; condescending; gruber; grubergate; grubervideo; obamacare; stupidvoters
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1 posted on 11/14/2014 3:42:28 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Bttt


2 posted on 11/14/2014 3:45:36 AM PST by uncitizen
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

MIT needs to boot this doucenozzle to the curb.


3 posted on 11/14/2014 3:47:34 AM PST by Sirius Lee (All that is required for evil to advance is for government to do "something")
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To: Sirius Lee; uncitizen

http://watchdog.org/183149/fifth-gruber-video/

“...According to information obtained from the Agency of Administration, Vermont has paid Gruber $160,000 since July 21, when he started his work as the Shumlin administration’s health care financing guru.

Gruber is providing policy expertise, research and economic modeling related to the implementation of Green Mountain Care, Vermont’s state-financed health care system....”


4 posted on 11/14/2014 3:50:24 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Can this horrible man’s comments be used in Supreme Court decisions against Obamacare?


5 posted on 11/14/2014 3:50:33 AM PST by grania
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Gruber is the pinnacle of arrogant academic elitism. Were I the new Republican Chairman of nearly any committee that had ANYTHING to do with regulating, funding, oversight or operation of the PPACA system, I’d have his little ass hauled up before an intensive grilling on Capitol Hill.

At the same time, I would be having all my legal resources investigating the propriety and/or conflict of interests of having a government paid academic “providing independent review” of works for which he substantially contributed.

I would further order the GAO to investigate EVERY contract under which he received funding in the context of work done and submitted, and juxtaposed the administration’s citations of “his expertise” in independent review of efforts relating to PPACA.


6 posted on 11/14/2014 3:51:12 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Gruber needs to be hauled in front
os a Congressional committee
and asked a few questions


7 posted on 11/14/2014 3:51:59 AM PST by RockyTx
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

The gift that keeps on giving


8 posted on 11/14/2014 3:55:01 AM PST by rdcbn
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To: Gaffer

We need to find a pic of him with his nose in the air Lois Lerner/Obama style.


9 posted on 11/14/2014 3:55:10 AM PST by uncitizen
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To: Gaffer
Gruber is the pinnacle of arrogant academic elitism........

Jonathan Gruber is THE poster boy for academic elitism and a cautionary tale for the ease with which "modeling"now substitutes for the truth (as with climate change).

10 posted on 11/14/2014 3:56:22 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: RockyTx
Gruber needs to be hauled in front os a Congressional committee and asked a few questions

Yeah, and I need a million bucks. What's your point?

11 posted on 11/14/2014 3:57:07 AM PST by mvpel
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To: Gaffer

I had a conversation with a PHD lefty who teaches at St Mary’s. In response to a comment about the way ACA was written to hide the truth he said

” while it may be true that there was an attempt to deceive the intent was to provide a better way for those who stay uninformed and less educated on the issue. Smart isn’t always popular”

I looked at him and said so ...your way is to keep the uninformed uninformed so that they will make the right choice ? Sounds a lot like Mao, Stalin, Lennin, Castro Pol Pot, the Ayatollah, and every other dictator. The snobbery is very strong in you.


12 posted on 11/14/2014 4:00:42 AM PST by DainBramage
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To: uncitizen
Healthcare reading for the stupid people.


13 posted on 11/14/2014 4:01:12 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: uncitizen

I’d rather see a pic of him in the Mussolini fashion stance. Although, not the haughty nose lift at his apex, but rather one a bit later down the road. :0)


14 posted on 11/14/2014 4:01:13 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: grania
Can this horrible man’s comments be used in Supreme Court decisions against Obamacare?


Well, Gruber , along with others, filed a friend of the court brief to the Supreme Court on ObamaCare that was false and misleading which is bound to make them less than happy.

In it's first ObamaCare ruling, the Supreme Court was largely influenced by public opinion which made The Court reluctant to overturn ObamaCare.

Gruber’s comments are sure to help turn public opinion against ObamaCare as well as formally document that the subsidy issue was and intentional part of the legislation and not a typo, which will make the Court more amenable to ruling against the law

15 posted on 11/14/2014 4:01:37 AM PST by rdcbn
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To: DainBramage

Your friend is a Machiavelli adherent - end justifies the means. Hitler was also, in a way.


16 posted on 11/14/2014 4:06:29 AM PST by Gaffer
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April 26, 2007 -

"As of April 12, 2006, Jonathan Gruber became the most influential economist in Massachusetts government. That was the day Gov. Mitt Romney signed a sweeping health care reform law that had Gruber’s distinct fingerprints on it. Of course, at the Faneuil Hall bill-signing ceremony the cameras focused on Romney and key legislative leaders-and on U.S. Senator Edward M. Kennedy, who flew in for the event. But it was Gruber, 41, a professor of economics at MIT, who had pushed from the beginning for a new state requirement that all residents of the Commonwealth carry health insurance.

In addition to this first-in-the-nation individual mandate, the law created a new state authority to oversee the re-making of the health care market, and Gruber was named one of 10 board members of the Commonwealth Health Insurance Connector Authority. So this MIT professor’s work in health care economics has already directly affected many thousands of lives in Massachusetts.

In the year since the enactment of the law, well more than 100,000 state residents have been newly covered by health insurance, either by expanded Medicaid or through the new Commonwealth Care plan, which offers subsidized insurance for those who make up to three times the federal poverty line level (up to about $60,000 for a family of four). By this July, all residents are legally required to carry health insurance, though Gruber says it won’t be worth looking at numbers until mid 2008 to see how close to universal coverage we are, since full compliance won’t happen without a good deal more publicity. Meanwhile, Gruber has been called in to advise other states—including California and Minnesota-to help them devise plans to expand health insurance coverage.

Gruber’s role in Massachusetts health care reform began without fanfare. After working in Washington in 1997 and 1998 as an economic policy advisor for the U.S. Treasury Department, Gruber returned to MIT, where he has been a professor since 1992, and developed a health care “micro-simulation model.” The idea was to build a computer program that would predict the results of various health care changes......." Tough medicine

17 posted on 11/14/2014 4:07:10 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: RockyTx

It would be fun. But, concerning his comment “American people are stupid”, they elected Obama - twice. Sooo, seems to me he may be right about that.....


18 posted on 11/14/2014 4:09:23 AM PST by snoringbear (E.oGovernment is the Pimp,)
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Nov 14, 2014 "......In 2009, just one month after President Obama took office, the Department of Health and Human Services put out a sole-source solicitation titled “Technical Assistance in Evaluating Options for Health Reform.” The contract would be with Gruber, who the document said was the only person “reasonably available to satisfy agency requirements.”

As the agency put it, “Dr. Gruber developed a proprietary statistically sophisticated micro-simulation model that has the flexibility to ascertain the distribution of changes in health care spending and public and private sector health care costs due to a large variety of changes in health insurance benefit design, public program eligibility criteria, and tax policy.”........... Washington Post

19 posted on 11/14/2014 4:12:28 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: grania
Can this horrible man’s comments be used in Supreme Court decisions against Obamacare?

They can and they will.

The obama lawyers are pissing in their depends.

20 posted on 11/14/2014 4:18:27 AM PST by USS Alaska (Exterminate the terrorist savages, everywhere.)
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