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Surrender:Why does anyone ever vote for Republican Party…at least one run by Boehner & McConnell?
Flopping Aces ^ | 12-09-14 | Vince

Posted on 12/09/2014 11:20:50 AM PST by Starman417

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To: INVAR

I really do not like saying it, but you are correct. This problem is way past the voting booth.


101 posted on 12/09/2014 3:17:47 PM PST by dforest
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To: 867V309
it will create a vacuum, which nature abhors.

Not as much as my catz.

Getting rid of the liberal republicans will leave a republican party that is conservative. I'm ok with that.

I sure won't vote for liberal republicans, even in the general election.

/johnny

102 posted on 12/09/2014 3:18:27 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: INVAR

I voted for them all one last time.

NEVER AGAIN. Ever.


103 posted on 12/09/2014 3:19:03 PM PST by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto!)
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To: tanknetter
because ending it coincided with the collapse of healthcare.gov.

That is your unproven assertion.

The plan is to shut down Obamacare and Amnesty funding.

No more plan is needed.

/johnny

104 posted on 12/09/2014 3:19:40 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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Rand Paul On Shutdown: "Even Though It Appeared I Was Participating In It, It Was A Dumb Idea"
I said throughout the whole battle that shutting down the government was a dumb idea. Even though it did appear as if I was participating in it, I said it was a dumb idea. And the reason I voted for it, though, is that it's a conundrum. Here's the conundrum. We have a $17 trillion debt and people at home tell me you can't give the president a blank check. We just can't keep raising the debt ceiling without conditions. So unconditionally raising the debt ceiling, nobody at home wants me to vote for that and I can't vote for that. But the conundrum is if I don't we do approach these deadlines. So there is an impasse. In 2011, though, we had this impasse and the president did negotiate. We got the sequester. If we were to extend the sequester from discretionary spending to all the entitlements we would actually fix our problem within a few years.
[Posted on 11/19/2013 12:16:51 PM by Third Person]
Rand Paul: Time for GOP to soften war stance
...by softening its edge on some volatile social issues and altering its image as the party always seemingly "eager to go to war... We do need to expand the party and grow the party and that does mean that we don't always all agree on every issue" ... the party needs to become more welcoming to individuals who disagree with basic Republican doctrine on emotional social issues such as gay marriage... "We're going to have to be a little hands off on some of these issues ... and get people into the party," Paul said.
[Posted on 01/31/2013 5:08:50 PM PST by xzins]
Rand Paul's immigration speech
...The Republican Party must embrace more legal immigration.

Unfortunately, like many of the major debates in Washington, immigration has become a stalemate-where both sides are imprisoned by their own rhetoric or attachment to sacred cows that prevent the possibility of a balanced solution.

Immigration Reform will not occur until Conservative Republicans, like myself, become part of the solution. I am here today to begin that conversation.

Let's start that conversation by acknowledging we aren't going to deport 12 million illegal immigrants.

If you wish to work, if you wish to live and work in America, then we will find a place for you...

This is where prudence, compassion and thrift all point us toward the same goal: bringing these workers out of the shadows and into being taxpaying members of society.

Imagine 12 million people who are already here coming out of the shadows to become new taxpayers.12 million more people assimilating into society. 12 million more people being productive contributors.
[Posted on 03/19/2013 7:04:07 AM PDT by Perdogg]
Rand Paul calls on conservatives to embrace immigration reform
Latinos, should be a natural constituency for the party, Paul argued, but "Republicans have pushed them away with harsh rhetoric over immigration." ...he would create a bipartisan panel to determine how many visas should be granted for workers already in the United States and those who might follow... [and the buried lead] "Imagine 12 million people who are already here coming out of the shadows to become new taxpayers...
[Posted on 04/21/2013 1:52:42 PM PDT by SoConPubbie]
[but he's not in favor of amnesty, snicker, definition of is is]
Rand Slams Congress for Funding Egypt's Generals: 'How Does Your Conscience Feel Now?'
Sen. Rand Paul is hammering his fellow senators for keeping billions in financial aid flowing to Egypt's military -- even as Cairo's security forces massacre anti-government activists. [by "anti-government activists" is meant church-burning Christian-murdering jihadists]
[Posted on 08/15/2013 5:44:10 PM PDT by Hoodat]

105 posted on 12/09/2014 3:20:42 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_______________________Celebrate the Polls, Ignore the Trolls)
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To: Kackikat

Prayer is a great thing. But Noah had to physically build that Ark, though.

In takes action, not just prayer.

That is why God gave humans a brain, unlike any other creature on this Earth. You should start using yours. And stop being an enabler.


106 posted on 12/09/2014 3:22:34 PM PST by tennmountainman (True conservatives don't like being rained on by their own party!)
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To: tanknetter

Nice excuse. But does not hold water.


107 posted on 12/09/2014 3:23:59 PM PST by tennmountainman (True conservatives don't like being rained on by their own party!)
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To: Da Coyote

“I truly believe that the GOP is far closer to extinction than they imagine.”

With majorities in both federal legislatures, in a majority of state legislatures, and a majority of Governors?

Winning elections is how they judge their results, not pleasing a minority of people, who claim to not be members of the party, and threaten to not vote much of the time.


108 posted on 12/09/2014 3:24:17 PM PST by truth_seeker
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To: tanknetter
What I find interesting is that you resort to the tactics of Liberals (name calling, labeling, polarized attacks) rather than just laying out what your plan is.

That's all you Apologists have - deflecting the truth to cover for the complicity of those you support by attacking the ones pointing it out.

As to the 'plan' - you could not comprehend it, because you are stuck in the mindset that this is just another political game we can play.

109 posted on 12/09/2014 3:27:56 PM PST by INVAR ("Fart for liberty, fart for freedom and fart proudly!" - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: tennmountainman

‘enabler’? I have no idea what you are talking about?

Yes, action speaks louder than words. And it’s not my brain I am concerned about...


110 posted on 12/09/2014 3:29:08 PM PST by Kackikat
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To: truth_seeker

Then why do they lie and pander to them during campaigns? Could it be because they actually need us to get into office ?

Care to take a look at the most recent election to see just how many RINOs actually ran as
Obamacare supportin, amnesty loving big government democrat lite politicians?


111 posted on 12/09/2014 3:29:33 PM PST by VRWCarea51 (The original 1998 version)
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To: JRandomFreeper
Getting rid of the liberal republicans will leave a republican party that is conservative. I'm ok with that.

I sure won't vote for liberal republicans, even in the general election.


I'm with you, but GOP has been infested with liberals a long time.

My bird chews the cord.


112 posted on 12/09/2014 3:29:53 PM PST by 867V309 (Crusade: the only solution.)
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To: VRWCarea51

Like I said before, if you want results...pray, praise, and believe....it’s not my Word, it’s Gods...otherwise forget about the promise land...being ‘what you want’, because you are saying the opposite, and that is what you will get.


113 posted on 12/09/2014 3:30:55 PM PST by Kackikat
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To: 867V309
It's more possible to get rid of the liberals in the republican party than in the democrat party. Neither should be voted for, though.

I pulled up the carpet and quit vaccuuming.

/johnny

114 posted on 12/09/2014 3:31:33 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Kackikat
because you are saying the opposite, and that is what you will get.

Like when you attack those who disagree with you on FR?

Hypocrisy is ugly.

/johnny

115 posted on 12/09/2014 3:33:38 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: truth_seeker

If Conservatives are such a “minority” in the GOP - why the hell should you people care whom we vote for or whom we decide NOT to vote for??

But listening to you guys chastise Conservatives the last several months for stating we are not voting for your ruling class party stooges, you would think the survival of your party is dependent on us little ‘minority’ you so loathe.


116 posted on 12/09/2014 3:34:20 PM PST by INVAR ("Fart for liberty, fart for freedom and fart proudly!" - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: combat_boots
I voted for them all one last time.

NEVER AGAIN. Ever.


Me too. And, just think, if Willard had been elected, we'd already have TOTAL AMNESTY sponsored by our "own" sorry a$$ party.


117 posted on 12/09/2014 3:34:33 PM PST by 867V309 (Crusade: the only solution.)
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To: INVAR
Their real problem is that the republican party is getting more conservative because conservatives won't vote for liberal republicans anymore.

/johnny

118 posted on 12/09/2014 3:45:41 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Starman417

Why? Because they love their republiCrat plantation!


119 posted on 12/09/2014 4:34:02 PM PST by nomad
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To: Da Coyote

I prefer republiCrats as well as demicRats. So it`s a Uni-party choice of Crats or Rats, but what`s the difference?


120 posted on 12/09/2014 4:37:37 PM PST by nomad
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