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Surrender:Why does anyone ever vote for Republican Party…at least one run by Boehner & McConnell?
Flopping Aces ^ | 12-09-14 | Vince

Posted on 12/09/2014 11:20:50 AM PST by Starman417

Do you ever wonder sometimes why Americans vote? How many times have you heard people say “I don’t vote because my vote doesn’t really matter, those politicians are going to do what they want regardless of how I vote.” In some cases that’s true. Obamacare was a perfect example. In January 2010 Scott Brown won his campaign for the Senate in deep blue Massachusetts by promising to be the 41st vote against Obamacare. The Democrats didn’t care, and despite the fact that 60% of the American people were opposed to Obamacare, they sidestepped Brown and used “reconciliation” to shove the law down the throats of the American people. As a result, that November the GOP retook the House in a landslide election, but by that point the damage had ever been done. If there was ever an example of politicians doing exactly what they wanted in the face of constituent opposition, Obamacare was it.

So why did citizens reward Democrats in 2012 and send Barack Obama back to work? Because presidential elections are personality driven contests (as opposed to issue driven contests) far more than are midterms, with the presidential candidates generating an unparalleled level of attention. Voters in midterm elections are generally more engaged and more aware of the issues than many who vote in presidential elections. Not sure? How many videos did you see in 2008 where voters could barely name the vice presidential candidates, nevermind the issues or candidates lower down the ticket. That reality repeated itself in 2012 with the cult of Barack Obama. Add to that the fact that Mittens Romney ran a campaign so uninspiring that millions of conservatives didn’t even bother to show up and it’s easy to understand how the country got another 4 years of The One.

Just two years later however, 2014 proved to be 2010 on steroids as the GOP picked up 9 seats in the Senate. Why? Not only had Obamacare proven to be exactly the disaster Republicans had predicted, but more timely was the fact that Barack Obama was basically promising amnesty to 4 million illegal immigrants. For the GOP, the numbers were clear: fully 70% of GOP voters were against Obama’s amnesty and at the end of the day those voters delivered a victory.

But alas, that doesn’t seem to matter. Like the Democrats in 2010 voting for something 60% of the Americans didn’t want, in 2014 the Republican leadership plans to ignore the wishes of 70% of their constituents by surrendering on immigration.

Surrender? That is essentially what the leadership has done as it promises there will be no government shutdown. The purse strings are one of the few checks the legislative branch has on the executive. As such, the primary way Congress can impact what the administration does is by deciding what to fund and what not to fund. In this context, a shutdown would occur when Congress passes a bill to fund the entire government except for those DHS functions involved in the president’s amnesty and then the president vetoes it. No dice say Boehner and McConnell. They are scared that the GOP would be blamed for any shutdown and get hammered in 2016. That’s an illusion, as most of the government would still function, and, frankly, most Americans wouldn’t even notice a shutdown were it not for the bleating of the administration’s media minions. In last year’s shutdown, once it was over a full 78% of Americans reported that they weren’t inconvenienced by the shutdown at all and another 11% felt only minor inconveniences. And a year later the GOP went on to flatten the Democrats in the midterms!

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TOPICS: Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: boehner; dumpboehner; johnboehner; ohio; republicans; southcarolina; treygowdy
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To: Starman417
Frankly, the GOP does not care one bit what voters say in opinion polls.

Both major parties are bought & paid for by our corporate overlords. The GOP has zero interest in changing the status quo.

21 posted on 12/09/2014 11:43:44 AM PST by gdani (Ebola has exposed the U.S. as fearful, easy-to-manipulate weaklings)
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To: Kackikat

What makes you think he’s a democrat?

And how exactly are they better than your party...the democrats?


22 posted on 12/09/2014 11:44:06 AM PST by chris37 (heartless)
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To: Kackikat

At least they are better than your party...the democrats.


How so? GOP near blank check funding of amnesty makes them co-conspirators. This is a Dem-GOP amnesty, obama-boehnercare, etc. You need to own all of their agenda, FRiend.


23 posted on 12/09/2014 11:44:54 AM PST by lodi90
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To: Starman417

Because.....if you don’t vote for them, you’ll get someone like Obama. Wait, what? Never mind......


24 posted on 12/09/2014 11:45:14 AM PST by showme_the_Glory ((ILLEGAL: prohibited by law. ALIEN: Owing political allegiance to another country or government))
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To: ilgipper

So the opposition party get nothing despite their large majorities? I’ve never seen it work that way in the past.


The GOP is getting what they want. Amnesty, a spending deal with pork for the big donors, etc.

Main Street can go ahead and ESAD as far as Boehner is concerned. We’re of no interest to beltway types like him.


25 posted on 12/09/2014 11:47:41 AM PST by lodi90
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To: Starman417

bump


26 posted on 12/09/2014 11:47:52 AM PST by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: Starman417

During the last 26 years we have given the GOP everything they wanted, in the sense of what is possible in politics.

We gave them a third term of the presidency in 1988, the House in 1994, we have given the Presidency/Congress/Senate, we gave them 2010 and 2014, and over and over they prove that they don’t want anything significant to change, that the only real differences with the democrats are relatively minor except on the question of whose people get to be filling the job slots and handling the dispersal of the pork and power.

Over and over they do theatrical near misses trying to appear like they gave it the old college try, but on closer examination, we see that they seem to make sure that they will lose, on rare occasions when they can’t hide it behind a nice little one vote loss, then they will mysteriously or even openly shoot themselves in the foot in some way, to keep from winning a legislative victory that we thought they were fighting for with all their heart.

They are doing that right now, they drove us to the polls thinking we were joined in battle on some major issues against the left, and now we see that is just more of the same, as the GOP desperately maneuvers to avoid victory on those issues.

That is why we have learned that their greatest fear of all, is conservatives getting through primaries and gaining office.


27 posted on 12/09/2014 11:48:38 AM PST by ansel12
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To: VanDeKoik

You mean actually get out and WORK to elect conservatives to office? And if no suits your fancy, then running for office yourself? Knocking on doors? Making phone calls? Going to City Council, School Board and County Commission meetings?

That ain’t no fun!!

It’s so much easier to sit at home, watch NCAA and NFL football on Saturdays and Sundays, and peck on the keyboard every once in a while.

/sarc


28 posted on 12/09/2014 11:49:38 AM PST by abb ("News reporting is too important to be left to the journalists." Walter Abbott (1950 -))
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To: Starman417

I voted Republican because why would anybody EVER vote for ANY Democrat?

Gotta start somewhere, and retiring Democrats is a good place!

It will take some time, effort and money, but I am convinced that in the long run, the good guys (that would be us!) will prevail!

In the meantime, there will be some more pain and suffering.

Consider this though: LIEberal Democrats are feeling more pain and suffering than we conservatives are!


29 posted on 12/09/2014 11:51:17 AM PST by Taxman
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To: chris37

Well done, I don’t agree, but your delivery was perfect.


30 posted on 12/09/2014 11:51:17 AM PST by ansel12
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To: 5thGenTexan

If your mean the ‘hate spewing trolls’ on this thread...yes, all of them are ready to pounce, to hate on the conservatives, and they think I don’t know who they are...’been there done that’ and yes, they are here...time for ignore button.

The Bible speaks about ‘getting what you say’ (paraphrased), and we should ‘call those things that be not as thought they were’...meaning speak positive things so you will get positive things....this bunch is more negative than the Ferguson rioters.


31 posted on 12/09/2014 11:54:13 AM PST by Kackikat
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To: abb

It’s a sad fact that much of the conservative movement is just that.

After the election, everyone goes to sleep as if these guys in Washington will just “handle it”, and then people get annoyed that they have to stay engaged.


32 posted on 12/09/2014 11:54:49 AM PST by VanDeKoik
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To: chris37

McConnell said he wanted to smack the Conservatives right in the mouth... Well Bitchy, take your best shot.

Because Come 16 after you and the Impotent Weeper completely sell out and try making silly excuses for not doing your duty to the people that put you in power you will be castrated politically.

That you can take to the bank! Conservatives will vote based on FACTS and ACTIONS after we put you based on what you SAID you would do.

Their reign will end in 2 years. Post Turtle will become minority patsy again and he will like it. Boehner will retire to die of liver failure due to excessive drinking.


33 posted on 12/09/2014 11:55:25 AM PST by VRWCarea51 (The original 1998 version)
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To: Taxman
I voted Republican because why would anybody EVER vote for ANY Democrat?

False choice.

How about voting for a conservative.

You can't get rid of liberals in the Democrat party, but you can get rid of liberals in the Republican party by not voting for them in the primary or the general election.

/johnny

34 posted on 12/09/2014 12:00:29 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Starman417

These jack-wagons are unanimously elected to leadership positions in the GOP.

Are we to believe that they don’t represent the true values of the republican party?

I am tired of the games, the false opposition and the back room deals to lock-in re-election. Play the game, and run unopposed (or against and unfunded outsider). Don’t play and get the Alan West treatment - run in a redistricted area with no party support, against a well-funded opponent.

The political class has fixed the game. I am not sure that we the people can take back control without bloodshed, and I’m not sure that enough people feel strongly enough about it to do what may be necessary.

Ugly times are ahead.


35 posted on 12/09/2014 12:02:25 PM PST by Triple (Socialism denies people the right to the fruits of their labor, and is as abhorrent as slavery ea)
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To: Kackikat
At least they are better than your party...the democrats.

Lol. No, they're not.

36 posted on 12/09/2014 12:02:56 PM PST by dware ("White Privilege" stems from one's ability to lace up work boots and read a work schedule)
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To: real saxophonist
I changed my affiliation from Republican to unafilliated. I'm done.

Ditto. No more votes for the spineless, American hating leftists in the GOP. I'm done too. Cruz wants my vote, he'll run on an independent/libertarian/constitutional ticket. I'm done with the GOP. Tired of their lies and backstabbing. I expected them to be better than Democrats. I was mistaken.

37 posted on 12/09/2014 12:08:53 PM PST by dware ("White Privilege" stems from one's ability to lace up work boots and read a work schedule)
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To: All

There are three Republican Parties.....

the NATIONAL one (Boehner, et al) who do what the Corporatists tell them to do....

The RNC....who TRIES to do what the STATE GOP parties tell THEM to do....

And, the COUNTY GOP parties....the grassroots....(ours happens to be Conservative at this time)

I will only support the COUNTY party....and that is starting to get iffy...


38 posted on 12/09/2014 12:09:01 PM PST by goodnesswins (R.I.P. Doherty, Smith, Stevens, Woods)
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To: Starman417

There are people who profit from graft and corruption. They’ll vote for Boehner and McConnell.


39 posted on 12/09/2014 12:10:33 PM PST by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: Moonman62; MinuteGal

Oh give the hate a break, they don’t even take over Congress until January. Geez, you’ve got full guns blasting and the Pubs haven’t even got a majority in Congress yet. Oh, and there’s that Prez with his pen and phone still there in office. What a bunch of Debby Downers. Go take a shower and cool off.


40 posted on 12/09/2014 12:27:58 PM PST by flaglady47 (The useful idiots always go first)
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