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Now Pope Francis looks toward Communist China
La Salette Journey ^ | December 22, 2014 | Paul Melanson

Posted on 12/22/2014 12:23:37 PM PST by cleghornboy

Now that Pope Francis has done his part to ensure that U.S. sanctions against the murderous regime in Cuba have been removed, the Holy See is already looking toward thawing relations with another brutal Communist regime: China. See here.

Back in October, Matt Hadro, writing for the Catholic News Agency, explained that: "The state of religious freedom in China is moving from bad to worse, said U.S. Rep. Chris Smith (R-N.J.), responding to a new report by the Congressional-Executive Commission on China.

'There’s a huge gulf now' between China and the Catholic Church, Smith stated during an Oct. 9 conference call with reporters. He acknowledged that 'the underground church has been brutally persecuted in China, both Protestant and Catholic,' but said that now even the state-recognized church is facing persecution.

'The Patriotic Church, the Catholic Church, they are being targeted with church demolitions and other kinds of repression which we have not seen before. So there’s a great deal of concern that religious freedom, as bad as it was, has further deteriorated in China.'

(Excerpt) Read more at lasalettejourney.blogspot.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Conspiracy; Government; Politics; Religion; Society
KEYWORDS: china; communist; freetrade; godlesscommunism; looks; popefrancis; redchina; sanctions

1 posted on 12/22/2014 12:23:37 PM PST by cleghornboy
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To: cleghornboy

Pains me to say, but the Pope is becoming a menace.

I get it he’s a Jesuit and wants to help every poor person, but he’s going beyond that and getting in the middle of politically charged events and falling on the wrong side.

The Church needs to get back to it’s core, not stay further away from it.


2 posted on 12/22/2014 12:31:03 PM PST by Reagan Disciple (Peace through Strength)
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To: cleghornboy

another traitor...stick to prayers and stay out of politics Mr Pope


3 posted on 12/22/2014 12:32:20 PM PST by CGASMIA68
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To: cleghornboy

Ayatollah al-Fhranziz is letting his leftist freak flag fly. What a surprise.


4 posted on 12/22/2014 12:32:52 PM PST by Dr. Thorne ("Don't be afraid. Just believe." - Mark 5:36)
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To: Reagan Disciple

He’s creeping me out.


5 posted on 12/22/2014 12:43:31 PM PST by SaraJohnson
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To: cleghornboy

Mistranslated. He was obviously suggesting that his chefs bring out the fine china instead of keeping it stuck away in some attic.


6 posted on 12/22/2014 12:44:27 PM PST by oblomov
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To: cleghornboy

This is the source of the blog post (for what it’s worth; it doesn’t sound like anything bad though IMO)

“We are in a positive phase” and “I would go as far as to say that prospects look promising” even though the journey “has not come to an end yet”. Cardinal Pietro Parolin is a diplomat who is well aware of how delicate certain negotiations are and he does not tend to exaggerate. But the response he gave to a question regarding the Holy See’s relations with China is confirmation that there is movement and that after the recent thaw in US-Cuba relations, Francis’ diplomacy is now turning its attention to Beijing.

The Vatican Secretary of State’s interview with Fr. Enzo Fortunato and Roberto Olla will be published in full, in the January issue of Franciscan monthly magazine Rivista San Francesco. Here is what Parolin had to say about the relations between China and the Holy See: “The journey was and still is long, marked by alternate phases and has not yet come to an end. It will end when God wishes it to.”

“I believe we need to adopt a theological approach with regard to our relations with China,” the cardinal added. “We are currently in a positive phase. Both sides have shown a willingness to continue talking and to search for solutions to the problems relating to the presence of the Catholic Church in this vast country. Personally, I would go as far as to say that prospects look promising and we hope these gems will blossom and bear good fruit, for the good of the Chinese Church and the whole world.”

The words pronounced by the head of Vatican diplomacy, confirm the reopening of dialogue. About a month ago, various Hong Kong-based websites and the Global Times, an English-language Chinese newspaper under the People’s Daily, the official newspaper of the government of China, revealed that an agreement on the long-standing question of episcopal nominations was about to be reached. This was after a proposal was presented by the Chinese government. The proposal apparently considered some sort of agreed procedure.

The Holy See has always expressed a willingness to find a mutually agreed upon procedure for making episcopal appointments, giving the final word to the Bishop of Rome. In his letter to Chinese Catholics, issued in 2007, Benedict XVI wrote: “I trust that an accord can be reached with the Government” regarding the selection, nomination and recognition of new Bishops on the part of the civil authorities (the letter was written when the then Under-Secretary for Relations with States, Pietro Parolin, was in charge of China-Holy See affairs). However, in his letter, Benedict XVI also explained that “the appointment of Bishops for a particular religious community is understood, also in international documents, as a constitutive element of the full exercise of the right to religious freedom.” Benedict XVI pointed out that when the Pope issues the apostolic mandate for the ordination of a Bishop, he exercises “supreme spiritual authority”. This authority is “not … a question of a political authority, unduly asserting itself in the internal affairs of a State and offending against its sovereignty.”

On his way back from South Korea last August – the outbound flight was the first time a Pope had ever been allowed to fly through Chinese airspace – Francis said: “I prayed a lot for that beautiful and noble Chinese people, a wise people … If I want to go to China? For sure! Tomorrow! We respect the Chinese people. The church only asks for liberty for its task, for its work. There’s no other condition.”

So the time to leave the past behind and start with a clean slate could be near. In recent days came the news about the audience the Pope denied the Dalai Lama. Francis expressed his “esteem” for the Buddhist leader but decided not to hold an audience with him or any of the Nobel Laureates gathered in Rome. The Chinese authorities sent out a very clear message in response to this. “China is always “sincere” about improving relations with Vatican,” said Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesman Qin Gang, pointing out that China has “noticed” the Holy See’s attitude. “China will continue to hold constructive dialogue with the Holy See,” Qin said, adding: “we hope Vatican will make joint efforts with China so that the two sides can meet each other halfway to improve bilateral relations.”

The measured but crucial words pronounced by the Vatican Secretary of State are to be read in this context.

http://vaticaninsider.lastampa.it/en/news/detail/articolo/parolin-china-cina-38179/


7 posted on 12/22/2014 12:45:47 PM PST by FourtySeven (47)
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To: cleghornboy

Do we need any more confirmation that catholicism is a false religion and the “pope” is not God ordained/approved?


8 posted on 12/22/2014 1:10:09 PM PST by kingpins10
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