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Just released notice .... ATF intends to reclassify and ban "armor piercing" ammo including M855
AR15.COM ^ | Feb 13, 2014 | smcgee1970

Posted on 02/14/2015 4:53:28 PM PST by bkopto

"Some ammunition that was previously exempted as “primarily intended to be used for sporting purposes,” specifically 5.56mm constituent projectiles of SS109 and M855 cartridges, will again be regulated as “armor piercing ammunition.” Except as provided by law, no person may manufacture or import such ammunition, and manufacturers or importers may not sell or deliver such ammunition. ATF will maintain the exemption for 30-06 M2AP cartridges

Proposed change to ATF regulatory framework for "armor piercing" ammunition.

(Excerpt) Read more at ar15.com ...


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The Obama ATF proposal to ban the production, selling, and distribution of 5.56 green tip (steel core) ammo (will not affect copper or lead core).

ATF Link

Excerpt (pages 14-15):

"Applying the sporting purposes framework set-forth above, the 5.56mm projectile that ATF exempted in 1986 does not qualify for an exemption because that projectile when loaded into SS109 and M855 cartridges may be used in a handgun other than a single-shot handgun.

"Specifically, 5.56mm projectiles loaded into the SS109 and M855 cartridges are commonly used in both “AR-type” rifles and “AR-type” handguns. The AR platform is the semi-automatic version of the M16 machine gun originally designed for and used by the military.

"The AR-based handguns and rifles utilize the same magazines and share identical receivers. These AR-type handguns were not commercially available when the armor piercing ammunition exemption was granted in 1986.

"To ensure consistency, upon final implementation of the sporting purpose framework outlined above, ATF must withdraw the exemptions for 5.56 mm “green tip” ammunition, including both the SS109 and M855 cartridges.7

"ATF recognizes that this ammunition is widely available to the public. Because it is legally permissible to possess armor piercing ammunition under current law, withdrawing the exemption will not place individuals in criminal possession of armor piercing ammunition.

"However, with few exceptions, manufacturers will be unable to produce such armor piercing ammunition, importers will be unable to import such ammunition, and manufacturers and importers will be prohibited from selling or distributing the ammunition.8

"7 Projectiles of this caliber loaded into these cartridges made from other metals, e.g., lead or copper, is not armor piercing to begin with, and will not be effected by the withdrawal of this exemption."

Also:

"ATF will accept comments for 30 days from the date this notification, which will be considered prior to finalizing the framework."

1 posted on 02/14/2015 4:53:28 PM PST by bkopto
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To: bkopto

Get it while it lasts....


2 posted on 02/14/2015 4:55:29 PM PST by bkopto (Free men are not equal. Equal men are not free.)
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To: bkopto

...’the right of the People to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed...”

so this must be somewhere else, some tin-pot dictatorship somewhere...can’t be in USA because we have the Constitution


3 posted on 02/14/2015 4:56:04 PM PST by faithhopecharity ((Brilliant, Profound Tag Line Goes Here, just as soon as I can think of one..).)
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To: bkopto

Well, I am as pro-2nd as anyone, and I object to ANY ban on AP rounds. I’d do away with all the laws like that.

That said, the ATF is actually doing a pretty fair reading of the existing law. They’re right, AR handguns were not out there when this exemption was issued.

So I give them a minor nod for not making new law up out of whole cloth.


4 posted on 02/14/2015 5:00:49 PM PST by Lazamataz (With friends like Boehner, we don't need Democrats. -- Laz A. Mataz, 2015)
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To: bkopto

What Good Can a Handgun Do Against An Army?
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-backroom/2312894/posts


5 posted on 02/14/2015 5:01:00 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (The question isn't who is going to let me; it's who is going to stop me.)
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To: bkopto

BTW, the green tip stuff is mostly crap. It penetrates very little, in fact, it tends to shatter and fragment.


6 posted on 02/14/2015 5:01:29 PM PST by Lazamataz (With friends like Boehner, we don't need Democrats. -- Laz A. Mataz, 2015)
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To: bkopto

7 posted on 02/14/2015 5:03:39 PM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: appalachian_dweller; OldPossum; DuncanWaring; VirginiaMom; CodeToad; goosie; kalee; ...

Preppers’ PING!!


8 posted on 02/14/2015 5:07:53 PM PST by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: faithhopecharity

And a Congress to be bypassed, seemingly at every turn.


9 posted on 02/14/2015 5:08:38 PM PST by onedoug
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To: bkopto
Who gave these federal bozos the power to control commerce like this? The states didn't.

/johnny

10 posted on 02/14/2015 5:08:58 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (gone Galt)
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To: bkopto

I already know the answer, but still I have to ask, Why?

What excuse/lie are they using to to this?

(Yes, I know it’s because (a) they think they can get away with it, and (b) the ultimate goal is to have people disarmed to the point that armed resistance to TPTB is futile)


11 posted on 02/14/2015 5:09:49 PM PST by paint_your_wagon
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To: bkopto
Get it while it lasts....

I think everyone saw this coming.

12 posted on 02/14/2015 5:10:36 PM PST by Cry if I Wanna
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To: bkopto
All high-powered rifle ammunition is "armor-piercing."

You can easily see where this is headed.

13 posted on 02/14/2015 5:11:21 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (If obama speaks and there is no one there to hear it, is it still a lie?)
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To: Lazamataz
BTW, the green tip stuff is mostly crap. It penetrates very little, in fact, it tends to shatter and fragment.

My husband says it's very inaccurate.

14 posted on 02/14/2015 5:12:07 PM PST by Cry if I Wanna
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To: bkopto

The attack of the bureaucracies continues and nary a RINO in sight.


15 posted on 02/14/2015 5:13:12 PM PST by headstamp 2
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To: faithhopecharity

Next object of attack...high power bolt action and semiautomatic rifles? Anti gun rights groups call them sniper rifles. Even import of lend lease M1 Garlands has been prohibited. We can’t even get 8 shot rifles bought and paid for by our tax money. There must have been lots of drive by bayonetings in Chicago.


16 posted on 02/14/2015 5:14:20 PM PST by Sasparilla (If you want peace, prepare for war.)
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To: bkopto

Hitler did not want an armed public either...


17 posted on 02/14/2015 5:15:24 PM PST by EagleUSA (Liberalism removes the significance of everything")
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To: EagleUSA

When the laws no longer protect you from the corrupt, but protect the corrupt from you, that nation is doomed.


18 posted on 02/14/2015 5:17:57 PM PST by bicyclerepair (Ft. Lauderdale FL (zombie land). TERM LIMITS ... TERM LIMITS)
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To: onedoug

Actually, in the interests of total accuracy, this is one of the very few times the ATF *didn’t* bypass Congress. They are acting within the confines of existing law. They had an incorrect read of the law as regards greentip .223, until now, because the law reads that AP rounds in handguns are verboten. AR handguns weren’t around when the ATF ruled greentip okay.

Now, that said, ALL laws regarding AP rounds are entirely unconstitutional.


19 posted on 02/14/2015 5:19:26 PM PST by Lazamataz (With friends like Boehner, we don't need Democrats. -- Laz A. Mataz, 2015)
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To: faithhopecharity

The security of a FREE State requires that it’s CITIZENS be able to shoot through the body armor of foreign and domestic agents of tyranny.


20 posted on 02/14/2015 5:19:29 PM PST by Rodamala
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