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Game of Thrones S05E08 discussion thread

Posted on 06/01/2015 7:23:02 AM PDT by martin_fierro

Winter is Coming


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To: Shimmer1

Exactly. And if Jon is legitimate, then his claim to the Iron Throne would be stronger than Daenerys’s claim, because he would be the son of the son of King Aerys II Targaryen, “The Mad King”.


81 posted on 06/03/2015 8:44:04 AM PDT by ConjunctionJunction
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To: ConjunctionJunction

yep, that’s just what I was thinking! :D


82 posted on 06/03/2015 11:28:17 AM PDT by Shimmer1 (God bless you, JRandomFReeper)
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To: ConjunctionJunction

Hmmm, I must have missed that scene. I’d like to get these on DVD, to watch all over again.


83 posted on 06/03/2015 11:29:14 AM PDT by Shimmer1 (God bless you, JRandomFReeper)
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To: Shimmer1

I believe the scene was in the last episode of season 3.


84 posted on 06/03/2015 11:34:15 AM PDT by ConjunctionJunction
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To: ConjunctionJunction

Men of the Nights Watch forfeit titles, nobility and inheritance. They vow to never marry or father children. I don’t think Jon Snow with win the Game of Thrones.


85 posted on 06/03/2015 8:56:53 PM PDT by SvenMagnussen (1983 ... the year Obama became a naturalized U.S. citizen)
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To: SvenMagnussen

Yes, that’s what happened with Master Aemon.


86 posted on 06/03/2015 9:17:14 PM PDT by ConjunctionJunction
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To: SvenMagnussen

Darn, that ruins all my theories right there. But you’re right.


87 posted on 06/04/2015 4:29:16 PM PDT by Shimmer1 (Life begins at the end of your comfort zone.)
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To: Shimmer1

Maybe Jon doesn’t win the Iron Throne, but what if he does work with Daenyerys to defeat the White Walkers? If he is part Targaryen, then perhaps he can ride one of her dragons.


88 posted on 06/04/2015 10:05:20 PM PDT by ConjunctionJunction
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To: martin_fierro

That episode made some of the aggravation worth it


89 posted on 06/04/2015 10:08:45 PM PDT by wardaddy (Game of Thrones rocked tonight.....the White Walkers know Snow stands in the way....)
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To: Old Teufel Hunden

Bingo

Everything revolves around winter is coming and what comes with it


90 posted on 06/04/2015 10:16:51 PM PDT by wardaddy (Game of Thrones rocked tonight.....the White Walkers know Snow stands in the way....)
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To: SvenMagnussen; ConjunctionJunction; Shimmer1

>>Men of the Nights Watch forfeit titles, nobility and inheritance. They vow to never marry or father children. I don’t think Jon Snow with win the Game of Thrones.<<

Couple things, re: that

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1 - He wouldn’t necessarily have to. Dany is barren and incapable (for now) of having any kids. Plus, Rickon is still alive, and would be available as heir to their shared throne. Still leaves the problem of marriage and titles though.

2 - Jon is currently the 998th Lord Commander. Presumably someone will be elected the 999th in his absence after the “For the Wall” incident. However, if Jon is indeed ‘The Prince that Was Promised’ (R+L=J), he’ll survive, reborn, and either become the 1000th Lord Commander (surely that would grant him the ability to negate or alter the Night’s Watch vows),

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3 - Negate the Night’s Watch entirely. If The Wall is brought down during the upcoming war with the Others and the Wights, (there’s a theory about the Wall merely being a prison tomb for the Ice Dragon - far fetched, but hey...a massive Ice Dragon taking on Dany’s Chillruns? Friggin epic!) once victory is obtained and the enemy defeated, there’s no longer a wall. No Wall = no Night’s Watch = No Vows.

4 - Jon and Dany rule, Rickon as their “son” and next in line, Bran as the King’s Hand (or branch) live via Weirwood satellite, and Hodor as Master of Whispers!


91 posted on 06/05/2015 9:40:31 AM PDT by ItsOurTimeNow ("What is Ned may never die!")
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To: ItsOurTimeNow

Thanks for the tip. That is the first I’ve heard of that theory. I see on the internet there is something about TellTale video games with reference the theory. Is that where you picked it up?


92 posted on 06/05/2015 10:02:50 AM PDT by SvenMagnussen (1983 ... the year Obama became a naturalized U.S. citizen)
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To: SvenMagnussen

About Hodor being master of whispers? Naw, I came up with that all on my own! Hahahaha

The rest I’ve picked up here and there on the internet - some of the best theories are on the ASOIAF Wiki site, some others on reddit’s ASOIAF page. Hundreds and hundreds of theories abound. It can be exhausting.

Look up one called The Great Northern Conspiracy...it’ll blow your mind. It’s very well-done, and makes you say, “Huh...how could I have missed that?” once you’re finished reading it.


93 posted on 06/05/2015 10:09:57 AM PDT by ItsOurTimeNow ("What is Ned may never die!")
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To: SvenMagnussen

sorry - “The Grand Northern Conspiracy”:

pdf here: https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B3Hk9dfMiV2ATUt2Xy11UlZ3Y0E/edit?usp=sharing&pli=1


94 posted on 06/05/2015 10:13:38 AM PDT by ItsOurTimeNow ("What is Ned may never die!")
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To: ItsOurTimeNow

Thanks. I have noscripts loaded on my Firefox browswer and had trouble finding anything to load. I did get the .pdf to load and will take a look at it.


95 posted on 06/05/2015 11:20:55 AM PDT by SvenMagnussen (1983 ... the year Obama became a naturalized U.S. citizen)
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To: ItsOurTimeNow

Good stuff there. Thanks!


96 posted on 06/05/2015 12:33:19 PM PDT by ConjunctionJunction
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To: ItsOurTimeNow

RE: “For the Wall” incident, if he dies, then his oath would be fulfilled and his watch would be ended. If he is “reborn”, then arguably the oath he took before would no longer apply.


97 posted on 06/05/2015 12:37:53 PM PDT by ConjunctionJunction
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To: ConjunctionJunction

Kit Harrington hints he may not be back for Season 6.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/06/04/jon-snow-fate-game-of-thrones_n_7496458.html?ncid=txtlnkusaolp00000592

“Yep, Harington doesn’t know if he’ll return for Season 6, which can only mean Jon Snow may die at the end of Season 5.”


98 posted on 06/05/2015 3:12:19 PM PDT by SvenMagnussen (1983 ... the year Obama became a naturalized U.S. citizen)
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To: SvenMagnussen

I’m thinking that we might have a really big cliffhanger coming up!


99 posted on 06/05/2015 4:50:43 PM PDT by ConjunctionJunction
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To: ConjunctionJunction

>> If he is “reborn”, then arguably the oath he took before would no longer apply.<<

Just so!


100 posted on 06/07/2015 5:32:07 AM PDT by ItsOurTimeNow ("What is Ned may never die!")
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