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The Confederate Flag In Every State, In Every Form, Must. Come. Down.
Time ^ | June 20, 2015 | J. Richard Cohen

Posted on 06/20/2015 2:54:05 PM PDT by PROCON


J. Richard Cohen is president of the Southern Poverty Law Center

Exactly whose heritage does it celebrate?

Following the church shooting this week, South Carolina Gov. Nikki Haley offered powerful words of healing and said the “people of South Carolina need us to come together and be strong.”

But at the same time the state’s citizens are being urged to “come together,” the state continues to display a divisive symbol — the Confederate flag — outside the state Capitol.

Reacting to calls to remove it, Sen. Lindsey Graham said the flag “is part of who we are.”

His answer makes me wonder just who Graham means by “we.” Does he mean the white people of South Carolina? Does he mean the neo-Confederates of South Carolina? Surely he doesn’t mean the African Americans in his state whose ancestors were enslaved, tortured and murdered under the regime represented by that flag. Surely he doesn’t mean older African Americans who still recall the terrorism of Klansmen who adopted the flag as their standard during Jim Crow. Surely not.

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TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: confederateflag; dylannroofdixie; liberalinsanity; slimemagazine
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To: jsanders2001

You pussie- what are you trying to say-outright? Get it out here, for everyone to see/hear, jsanders2001. I despise liars and cheats. You ain’t no Patriot. Get your bs off your chest...now.


101 posted on 06/20/2015 5:54:17 PM PDT by RedHeeler (...)
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To: yarddog
"I took this one around 1975 in Ozark, Alabama. The old Black man does not seem to mind the little Confederate Flags."

Interesting juxtaposition with the street name ;-)

102 posted on 06/20/2015 5:57:17 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Qui me amat, amat et canem meum.)
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To: PROCON

The Confederacy was marred by slavery. The “Union” is marred by abortion.

The Confederate flag is a reminder of the natural right of secession. That it IS a natural right is one of the “self-evident truths” listed in the Declaration of Independence.

What needs to be stamped out is the “Pledge of Allegiance,” which denies the natural right of secession, asserting instead that “one nation” has been created, SO PERFECT that no one has the right to secede from it, ever, until the end of time.

So successful has been the propaganda for this evil idea, that no state has even discussed seceding from the Union, despite being commanded by the central government to allow the killing of millions of innocent people by their own families.


103 posted on 06/20/2015 6:03:12 PM PDT by Arthur McGowan
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To: RedHeeler

> You pussie- what are you trying to say-outright? Get it out here, for everyone to see/hear, jsanders2001. I despise liars and cheats. You ain’t no Patriot. Get your bs off your chest...

I thought I made it clear: Bullet points: 1) The SPLC director, Cohen wants us all to remove the Confederate flag anywhere and everywhere its flown because he somehow thinks it really has anything to do with the killings in Charleston, 2) Blacks associate the Confederate flag with the KKK, 3) Cohen has facial features that look as though he may have black heritage, ergo probably his motiivation as it relates to # 2.

Is that simple enough for you?


104 posted on 06/20/2015 6:06:40 PM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: jsanders2001

Nah. You push the wrong way.


105 posted on 06/20/2015 6:08:34 PM PDT by RedHeeler (...)
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To: RedHeeler

I suggest you lay off the bottle then come back to discuss when you are thinking more clearly.


106 posted on 06/20/2015 6:09:44 PM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: cva66snipe

“I’m thinking segregation in the Navy came about sometime in the 1960’s”

I think you meant to say integration came about and segregation ended. At any rate I entered the Navy straight from high school in 1962 and it was fully integrated at that time. I couldn’t say exactly when segregation ended in the Navy.


107 posted on 06/20/2015 6:14:48 PM PDT by RipSawyer (Racism is racism, regardless of the race of the racist.)
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To: jsanders2001

Of course, your slur is an opinion. Keep swingin’ that bat, racist boy.


108 posted on 06/20/2015 6:17:00 PM PDT by RedHeeler (...)
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To: duffee

There were MANY Negroes that voted in SUPPORT of the BATTLE FLAG !


109 posted on 06/20/2015 6:33:12 PM PDT by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: Steely Tom

That’s a great question.....I am so throwing that in my next liberal conversation.


110 posted on 06/20/2015 6:33:40 PM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: RipSawyer
I think you meant to say integration came about and segregation ended. At any rate I entered the Navy straight from high school in 1962 and it was fully integrated at that time. I couldn’t say exactly when segregation ended in the Navy.

I'm just guessing but I'd say the change came sometime under Ike. The ships weren't segregated as to a black crew ship or a white crew ship that wasn't what I was trying to say. I don't think that was true even for WW1. The available Ratings to black sailors were limited. IIRC Ratings had also been limited for P.I. sailors as well.

Thanks for correcting my post. Yeah I meant to say segregation ended in the 1960's. LOL

111 posted on 06/20/2015 6:39:41 PM PDT by cva66snipe ((Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?))
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To: bolobaby

Rainbow flags, too!


112 posted on 06/20/2015 6:40:37 PM PDT by wintertime (Stop treating government teachers like they are reincarnated Mother Teresas!)
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To: Tzfat
The flags of the Confederacy are easy to Google, but the ignorant will still call the Battle Flag the “Confederate Flag.” It was never the flag of the Confederacy.

Not to mention that the flag used in the picture at the very top of this post was the Confederate Naval Jack, not the battle flag or flag of state.

113 posted on 06/20/2015 6:49:34 PM PDT by Inyo-Mono
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To: RedHeeler

> Of course, your slur is an opinion. Keep swingin’ that bat, racist boy.

Everybody is a racist according to the racebaiters.


114 posted on 06/20/2015 6:55:16 PM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: jsanders2001

Yes, and?


115 posted on 06/20/2015 7:02:20 PM PDT by RedHeeler (...)
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To: FreedomPoster

“I am not a big fan of the battle flag. In fact, I have lobbied JimRob to use the correct Georgia flag on this site. The flag he uses, which has the battle flag as an element, has not been been the official state flag since 2003, a dozen years ago.”

Since Roy Barnes the POS Democrat Gov got some BS flag approved in a midnight legislative session. We got rid of Roy right after that. He went down hard. Harry Reid could have gotten elected GA gov that year. The yard signs just said anybody but Barnes.


116 posted on 06/20/2015 7:04:37 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: RedHeeler

I’m done.


117 posted on 06/20/2015 7:07:44 PM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: Viennacon

I have a front licence plate that has an American Flag and a Confederate Battle Flag together. I’ m thinking of removing it from my truck and hanging it up in my garage.
I’m concerned that I am making myself and family a target of some wacho.
This is a sad day for our Country.


118 posted on 06/20/2015 7:48:03 PM PDT by TNoldman (AN AMERICAN FOR A MUSLIM/BHO FREE AMERICA.)
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To: PROCON

My family has ancestors who fought on both sides. One of my sons is named for a distant relative who was a Confederate soldier and was killed in the war.

I think the battle flag should be shown in honor and respect (i.e. at monuments, cemeteries, parades, reenactments, etc.)

But I don’t like the Confederate battle flag used as the international symbol for redneck. I don’t like seeing either the battle flag or US flag print on shorts, bandanas around a dog’s neck, flip-flops, paper plates or saddle blankets, or any other use where it’s going to be stepped on, messed up or thrown away.

(Maybe it would be OK to use a Union Jack print in those situations ;-)


119 posted on 06/20/2015 8:45:08 PM PDT by Cloverfarm
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To: PROCON; Reno89519; 2ndDivisionVet; wardaddy; Salamander; CatherineofAragon

To: 2ndDivisionVet

While Bush is NOT a conservative, I’m always surprised at the idiotic stances and excuses people make to fly the disgraced, defeated, and offensive confederate flag. Bush, (like Romney and others speaking on the topic), are right, it, like the Nazi flag, belongs in a museum. Go ahead, flame me.

Aside from the reality that there is no quicker way to lose an election than by flying or defending the Confederate flag, who’s the last person to do so, David Duke? Not nice company to keep.

Here’s an interesting article on the topic: http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/conservatives-should-hate-confederate-flag/article/25666099

posted on 6/20/2015, 4:07:42 PM by Reno89519 (For every illegal or H1B with a job, there’s an American without one. Muslim = Nazi = Evil)
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120 posted on 06/20/2015 11:12:52 PM PDT by Pelham (The refusal to deport is defacto amnesty)
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