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1 posted on 07/03/2015 1:34:31 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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"No veteran that served the United States wants to take a freedom away from people, especially fireworks, which represent freedom. What they're asking for is for people to give them a heads-up."

Heads-up! For over 200, years people have celebrated with fireworks on July 4th in the United States. How did the combat veterans of the Revolutionary War, the Civil War, the Spanish American War, World War I, World War II, Korea and Vietnam deal with each and every July 4th celebration after they returned?

2 posted on 07/03/2015 1:54:53 AM PDT by Flag_This (You can't spell "treason" without the "O".)
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3 posted on 07/03/2015 1:56:27 AM PDT by Viking2002 (The Avatar is back by popular request.)
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How sensitive we have become.

I wonder why this generation of military veterans are scared of fireworks while all of us older generation of military veterans are not?

Must be something in the food. Or it just might be that we older vets simply thought that some of us who went through terrible times in war simply had “battle fatigue” and once home could convalesce and recover...and did.

What the hell has happened to the new generation? Anything and everything has a physiological solution today and everything can be blamed on anything.


5 posted on 07/03/2015 2:25:40 AM PDT by DH (Once the tainted finger of government touches anything the rot begins)
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I wonder then where my dog got PTSD? If they can’t handle fireworks then they might want to spend they 4th in a rubber sound proof room with the TV turned up loud.


7 posted on 07/03/2015 2:46:55 AM PDT by BreezyDog
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this is news??...they’re surely smart enough not to go to these events....


10 posted on 07/03/2015 3:04:15 AM PDT by Sacajaweau (s)
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I seem to be detecting a massive steaming pile here.


22 posted on 07/03/2015 3:59:49 AM PDT by Desron13
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This is understandable in a way I guess. However, I don’t recall such concern in my earlier years. Maybe the phenomenon of PTSD is just new or something (e.g., like they haven’t ever heard of shell-shock, etc.).

Regardless, one would think every veteran who ever put on a uniform would be aware of July 4 and what it entails and could act accordingly. Okay. This group put out the concern and it’s done now, right? Or is this a plea somehow to get money to ‘work this issue.’ It’s hard to say nowadays with all these concern groups.


26 posted on 07/03/2015 4:03:55 AM PDT by Gaffer
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The July,disability check should come with a warning!


29 posted on 07/03/2015 4:29:18 AM PDT by Dr. Ursus
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This is just more liberal propaganda and a nasty use of veterans to ban another item of great Americana.

The vast majority of people claiming PTSD don’t have it in any way. It is a useful tool to get disability payments or a discharge. I’ve seen people claim it who never even went
overseas near a combat zone.

I’ve known soldiers with shell-shock who would never ask America not to celebrate the 4th with fireworks. Small children sometimes hate fireworks. My dog hates them. Grow up, liberals.


51 posted on 07/03/2015 9:31:45 AM PDT by CodeToad (If it weren't for physics and law enforcement I'd be unstoppable!))
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Most that have PTSD the fireworks likely doesn't bother them. But there can be co-existing conditions related to battle where one triggers response from the other.

If a combat vet especially one in an Artillery Unit comes back without significant hearing damage it would be rare. Some of what used to be called Shell Shocked Vets the classical dive under the table reaction to loud noises likely is not simply PTSD nor even PTSD as such. It's being caused by their hearing damage and the hearing damage causes stress which compounds PTSD if they also have PTSD. This is true be it combat related hearing loss and combat induced PTSD or civilian world caused hearing loss and PTSD from civilian life events.

I've had both issues at the same and they hit me about the same time. The PTSD if treated over time will subside but the Vestibular Damage triggering the startle response to certain noises will not go away unless you go deaf or walk around with ear plugs.

60 posted on 07/03/2015 1:28:17 PM PDT by cva66snipe ((Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?))
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I don’t like fireworks, never have and never will..........


71 posted on 07/03/2015 5:53:36 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco
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99 posted on 07/04/2015 4:09:15 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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