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"Fact:" Jesus is a liberal socialist...
American Irony ^ | 7-19-15 | The Looking Spoon

Posted on 07/19/2015 3:53:51 PM PDT by The Looking Spoon

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To: oldbrowser
"We can know God through his works. God created nature to work in a certain way. I take it as a clue. Many seek a nature where the lion lays down with the lamb. That’s not really how nature works. The plants, the animals, all designed to operate in a balanced ecosystem. To me that is a clue. Doesn’t natures system seem to resemble capitalism more than collectivism?"

I would answer your question with a yes, in spite of the fact that I would look at your 2nd sentence quite differently! His "word," (the inspired scriptures) tell us he DID create "a nature where the lion lays down with the lamb!" Furthermore, old Lucifer screwed that all up by bringing his deceptive sinful nature (liberalism, socialism, etc.) and corrupting the original hetrosexual married couple and now the weeds, thorns and thistles have just about taken over the planet!!!

Whata ya mean, "balanced ecosystem?" That's only taught in GovernMental juvenile indoctrination/baby sitting systems known as public schools, old browser. You're absolutely right in that collectivism infects the productive people with a parasitic plague through discouraging taxation!!!

21 posted on 07/19/2015 4:38:36 PM PDT by SierraWasp (Help Stamp Out Pernicious Progressives and Arrogant Activists With Their Liberalism!!!)
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To: The Looking Spoon

Well, alrighty then. So they should have no problem when Jesus’ admonition to go and sin no more is invoked.


22 posted on 07/19/2015 4:45:08 PM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: SierraWasp
Socialism is contrary to Torah. There is a definitive private property statement in Genesis 1:28 in the verb for "have dominion" pronounced ur'du. The root is derived from a Semitic term meaning to set property lines by walking boundaries 'treading down' the grass. G_d didn't give us each infinite responsibility for the entire earth; we are to care for our own.
23 posted on 07/19/2015 4:46:09 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (The fourth estate is the fifth column.)
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To: The Looking Spoon

And I suppose He is a sodomite too?


24 posted on 07/19/2015 4:57:05 PM PDT by Blue Collar Christian (Ready for Teddy, Cruz that is.)
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To: Carry_Okie

Kibbutz? Hebrew word for some rural collective Jewish settlements. You can look it up!!!


25 posted on 07/19/2015 4:57:56 PM PDT by SierraWasp (Help Stamp Out Pernicious Progressives and Arrogant Activists With Their Liberalism!!!)
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To: The Looking Spoon

Just wait until they find out He was Jewish.


26 posted on 07/19/2015 5:07:04 PM PDT by SkyDancer ( "Nobody Said I Was Perfect But Yet Here I Am")
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To: The Looking Spoon

As a socialist he would have said that the ruler should share with the citizenry and take from the rich men to give to the poor. I have not found those sayings in my Gospels. He had a lot to say about how individuals should think and act. Socialism does not think or operate in the category of individuals. Jesus did not speak to economic systems at all. It is up to the individual to repent and come to God whatever the social and economic systems and whatever his station in life.


27 posted on 07/19/2015 5:09:43 PM PDT by arthurus (it's true!)
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To: SierraWasp
The Kibbutzim of Israel were European Reform Jews, steeped in socialism born in the teachings of Abraham Geiger to whom the Othodox were adamantly opposed. It was these 'reformers' came to the US in two waves, one upon the failed communist takeover of Germany in 1848, and the second attempt of the Spartakusbund in Berlin after WWI out of which came the Frankfurt School that introduced Cultural Marxism to American universities: Marcuse, Fromm, Adorno, and Maslow.
28 posted on 07/19/2015 5:17:38 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (The fourth estate is the fifth column.)
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To: SierraWasp
I do suggest (again) that you avail yourself of Rabbi Marvin Antelman's two-volume history of Jewish intrigue, To Eliminate the Opiate.
29 posted on 07/19/2015 5:21:11 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (The fourth estate is the fifth column.)
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To: The Looking Spoon
Jesus Guevera?
Jesus Marx?
Jesus Castro?
Jesus Lennin?
Jesus Tse Tung?
30 posted on 07/19/2015 6:07:33 PM PDT by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: The Looking Spoon

From an apologetics standpoint, I think it is definitely worth noting that Jesus defended women in a time when that wasn’t the norm, clearly stood up for the poor, and reserved his harshest words for those who oppressed and were judgemental. He told his followers to help the poor, not just the poor who “deserve” it. As an avid, small-government conservative, I believe this is best done privately of course, bit it saddens me that many lost souls don’t see that so many classical liberal ideas originated from the God-man that they mock or ignore. I do worry that a small part of the accountability lies in the way Christians interact with non-believers who do not possess the indwelling Holy Spirit, and cannot possibly have the discernment or moral empowerment that only the Third Person of the Trinity provides. We must pray and witness to save their souls first, and their politics will take care of themselves, I think.

That said, the assertion that Christ is a modern liberal socialist is complete rubbish, and those peddling this know it in all but a few cases. Most do not accept His divinity and seek only to twist his words like they twist any truth that they come in contact with.

The fact is, Jesus Christ largely ignored the petty politics of human governments of His time on Earth, as did the Apostle Paul. As much as it might sound odd coming from an avid proponent of constitutional republic, the Savior is not called the “President of Presidents” any more than the “Czar of Czars” or whatever a socialist might call him. He IS the King of Kings. I suppose His politics tend toward monarchy in that sense...


31 posted on 07/19/2015 6:20:27 PM PDT by madconservative (Feel like I am living in the warren of the snares)
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To: The Looking Spoon

Jesus believed/taught personal responsibility, personal righteousness (integrity/honesty), respect for others, personal charity . He taught that these should be done at the personal level rather than the collective or government level. Jesus shunned government and established political groups, focusing on the individual relationship with God the Father for support, justice, logic and spiritual support.

How in the world would that be confused with social liberalism? Which rejects individualism, righteous living (morals), and God?

If there is a political home for Christ in today’s life it is only in the honesty, charity, forgiveness and transcendence beyond all things political.

by the way, I am a conservative, and a devout believer and follower of Christ (Mormon)


32 posted on 07/19/2015 6:30:50 PM PDT by teppe (... for my God ... for my Family ... for my Country ....)
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To: The Looking Spoon

He had a job for 30 years, so no...not a socialist. Not a vegetarian, or a Nancy Boy, either. Mark 8:11.


33 posted on 07/19/2015 6:43:27 PM PDT by 50sDad (A Liberal prevents me from telling you anything here.)
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To: The Looking Spoon

False. Quite the opposite.

Fact: They know this.


34 posted on 07/19/2015 6:52:00 PM PDT by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: SkyDancer

ROFL!


35 posted on 07/19/2015 7:34:36 PM PDT by griswold3 (Just another unlicensed nonconformist in am dangerous Liberal world.)
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To: The Looking Spoon
Jesus is NOT a liberal socialist. Socialists steal wealth at gun point. To the best of my knowledge Jesus never stole anything at all. By definition he could not possibly be a socialist.
36 posted on 07/19/2015 7:36:32 PM PDT by Nuc 1.1 (Nuc 1 Liberals aren't Patriots. Remember 1789!)
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To: madconservative; All

I agree that our politics are beneath Him as far as the big picture is concerned. I made this to comment on the inherent hypocrisy and silliness of the left trying to simultaneously reject God and then claim He’s actually on their side and always has been.

It’s such nonsense, and very irritating.


37 posted on 07/19/2015 8:28:11 PM PDT by The Looking Spoon
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To: Carry_Okie

“There is a definitive private property statement in Genesis 1:28 in the verb for “have dominion” pronounced ur’du. The root is derived from a Semitic term meaning to set property lines by walking boundaries ‘treading down’ the grass.”

We have done that. We have walked the boundaries of the property we own. It is ours!


38 posted on 07/19/2015 8:58:15 PM PDT by GGpaX4DumpedTea (I am a Tea Party descendant...steeped in the Constitutional Republic given to us by the Founders)
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To: The Looking Spoon

Oh I definitely agree with the sentiment; my comment wasn’t a critique of your art (which shows talent and wit, as do your other images). I guess I just have changed as I have gotten older... The left saying such things used to fire me up, but now I find it makes me sad for them. I pity them and wish deeply that the folks who assert such nonsense would stumble upon the fact that Jesus IS in many cases the inspiration for the dreams of the classical liberal... Healing the sick, freeing the oppressed, exposing hypocrisy, lashing out against a pharisaic mindset and offering forgiveness and grace, giving dignity to every person. His future kingdom will be one of perfect justice and provision. Many of the ideals they seek are found in him, they just simply cannot be accomplished without Him. I know that men like Marx did not glean much from Christ of course - their motivations were more from jealousy, licentiousness, materialism, and a tendency toward bloodshed and tyranny, but were not many of the social Democrat types the beneficiaries of Christian ideals who misguidedly thought they could fulfill them with the idol of humanism instead of seeking God? Oh that modern liberals might see with their eyes and hear with their ears!


39 posted on 07/20/2015 5:38:06 AM PDT by madconservative (Feel like I am living in the warren of the snares)
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To: The Looking Spoon

Fact:

“Since I try to justify myself as a good person
by thinking I’m “giving” to the poor
by advocating for theft from my fellow citizen,
I want to try to rope Jesus into my thievery.”


40 posted on 07/20/2015 5:39:48 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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