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Teachers Making Over $80,000 Say They Need Second Jobs 'To Make Ends Meet'
Michigan Capitol Confidential ^ | 8/11/2015 | Tom Gantert

Posted on 08/11/2015 9:41:40 AM PDT by MichCapCon

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To: Paulie

We had a good laugh over Sandra in the factory lunch room. Best line was by a Black co-worker who offered “Maybe she had to pay that kind of money to get laid!”


61 posted on 08/11/2015 12:18:50 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: EVO X

On an aside, I really don’t know how anyone can make it making under $50K/year. $80K is possible, but $50K wold be tough.


62 posted on 08/11/2015 12:41:37 PM PDT by rbg81
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To: NorthMountain
Oh, yeah ... Do you really want to know why education is more expensive now (in adjusted dollars) than, say, 30 years ago?

I fully know why education is more expensive today. I focused on teachers since the article was about teachers. Btw, the quality and cost of education 30 years ago should not be a benchmark for education today. Educators 30 years ago were no better than they are today. The results they produced are about the same. Teachers are half the problem.

Now, if you want to expand the conversation to adminstrative overhead, then I am game. Administrators in terms of their numbers and backgrounds are just as disfunctional as teachers today. In fact, most administrators in schools are former teachers. Being a teacher doesn't qualify one to be an adminstrator. Adminstrators would be better if they had degrees in business, not advanced degrees in education or non-rigorous degrees in adminstration that are filled with a bunch of liberal/progressive nonsense.

When I was in high school in the late 70's the entire high school had a principal and a vice-principal. I graduated in a class of 465 students. Add three other grades to that and we had the work load for two adminstrators. The same should be effective today if you remove all the bull crap that liberals have brought into education. That bull crap begins with teacher unions and government mandates on local education.

The problem with education today is that there is no focus on education. We have lost focus. Education is about effectively and efficiently transferring knowledge and American values to minds full of mush, nothing more. For every dollar spent on something else is a dollar not spent on educating. Those are wasted dollars.

63 posted on 08/11/2015 12:44:42 PM PDT by ConservativeInPA
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To: MichCapCon
The article featured one of the author’s colleagues, Karen Malsbury, who has been teaching for 14 years. Malsbury was quoted as saying, “There is little or no room for professional growth, little opportunity to increase your personal income, no step increases, no bonuses, no inflation pay rises, rising health care costs and more requirements to take college level classes to get up-to-date endorsements.”

The difference between me and her...is quite different.

I don't have a Union to protect me. I haven't had a raise in 5 years. My insurance keeps going up..and my benefits keep going down.

I don't have summers off. I've been doing what I do for 25 yrs..almost twice the number of years...Malsbury's been a "teacher"...and she makes more than I do.

I'm damn good at what I do....

So Malsbury....go complain to someone who cares...And BTW...I save lives for a living.

64 posted on 08/11/2015 12:48:47 PM PDT by Osage Orange (What this country needs are more unemployed politicians.)
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To: ConservativeMind
My high school math teacher ran a detasseling crew during the summer.

Ummmmm.....detasseling what?

65 posted on 08/11/2015 12:50:13 PM PDT by Osage Orange (What this country needs are more unemployed politicians.)
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To: American Constitutionalist

I’m guessing -

hair, nails, vacations


66 posted on 08/11/2015 12:51:41 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Gaffer

You forgot the /s...or did you?


67 posted on 08/11/2015 12:51:43 PM PDT by Osage Orange (What this country needs are more unemployed politicians.)
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To: NorthMountain
Wouldn’t that be grand?

Yes, it would. Just get government out of education. Let parents choose how and how much to educate their children. My grandfather ran a successful fuel oil and oil burner repair business. He had a sixth-grade education. Can that be accomplished today? Perhaps. There might be a need for HVAC training on the trade side of things. If we get rid of government regulations and tax laws then the business side of things requires little more than a sixth-grade education. Our country is screwed up because there is so much government. Solution: either downsize or eliminate government.

68 posted on 08/11/2015 12:57:26 PM PDT by ConservativeInPA
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To: Osage Orange

I just put their complaints in another perspective from an economic standard of living below theirs, echoing their gripes about higher paid people.


69 posted on 08/11/2015 1:00:30 PM PDT by Gaffer
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To: rbg81
On an aside, I really don’t know how anyone can make it making under $50K/year.

Kind of depends on size of household, etc. It is doable for a a family of four in my flyover city in central Illinois. Probably not much left at the end of the month.

70 posted on 08/11/2015 1:09:49 PM PDT by EVO X
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To: Jim from C-Town

Second that!


71 posted on 08/11/2015 1:11:47 PM PDT by Osage Orange (What this country needs are more unemployed politicians.)
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To: proxy_user

BTW.........a BA, MA, PHD, MD, DO...don’t mean you are any good at what you want to be.


72 posted on 08/11/2015 1:18:38 PM PDT by Osage Orange (What this country needs are more unemployed politicians.)
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To: Osage Orange

Seed corn.


73 posted on 08/11/2015 1:54:11 PM PDT by ConservativeMind ("Humane" = "Don't pen up pets or eat meat, but allow infanticide, abortion, and euthanasia.")
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To: MichCapCon

These “educators” are “working” about 7-8 months a year “for the children”...so...lighten up!


74 posted on 08/11/2015 2:30:11 PM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: ConservativeInPA

Well, there’s something in that. My niece teaches algebra to eighth graders, and barely had enough math courses to qualify as a math teacher. But because she is able to get the least promising eighth graders to learn algebra, she is highly valued by her school and district, and won teacher of the year for her district. I’ve probably forgotten more math than she knows, but I could never get anywhere with those kids.


75 posted on 08/11/2015 5:11:18 PM PDT by proxy_user
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To: proxy_user

Very little is needed to teach 8th graders algebra. And I mean little as in don’t clutter the kid’s minds with non-relevant crap. Kids need to master arithmetic before algebra. That’s not a lot of knowledge to master and they have 8 years to do it. It doesn’t take a great deal of knowledge on the part of the teacher either. However, it does take the ability to teach.


76 posted on 08/11/2015 5:52:38 PM PDT by ConservativeInPA
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To: Osage Orange

You’re a pastor?


77 posted on 08/11/2015 6:00:36 PM PDT by Bulwyf
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To: Bulwyf
Nope...work in a hospital...3 days a week. The other day's I make money.

What do you do?

78 posted on 08/11/2015 6:09:05 PM PDT by Osage Orange (What this country needs are more unemployed politicians.)
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To: Osage Orange

I’m a retired soldier, current oil and gas jman electrician.

Now I’m curious what you do outside the hospital? Heh

I mentioned pastor because lately given the global situation, I can’t help but feel that revelation events are imminent.


79 posted on 08/11/2015 7:00:36 PM PDT by Bulwyf
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To: MichCapCon
Teaching is NOT about your profit, they should be cut to 23k per year
and taxpayers should keep their money for the economy.

Teachers don't create a damn thing.

80 posted on 08/11/2015 7:02:50 PM PDT by MaxMax
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