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Rubio, Kasich, Fiorina and Carson are doing the best in the battleground states
Libertarian Neocon ^ | libertarian neocon

Posted on 08/20/2015 9:43:34 AM PDT by libertarian neocon

The Quinnipiac poll of battle ground states had some pretty interesting information in it.  Most notably, amongst registered voters of all political stripes, the top 4 names are the same in each of the states polled (Florida, Ohio and Pennsylvania).  The four are Rubio, Kasich, Fiorina and Carson, who seem to run the gambit of the GOP, from moderate (Kasich) to establishment conservative (Rubio) and full-on Tea Party outsider (Carson).  And all of them have better numbers than both Clinton and Biden.

First, let's look at Florida:

Note that Trump is very near the bottom in a very key state.  He is beating Clinton in a head to head (43 vs. 41) but I think that is mainly because they actually hate her even more than they hate him!  Let's try not to make this a contest of which festering turd voters need to choose from, shall we?

And here is Ohio:

Not much of a shock that Kasich is on top here (though 17% of registered voters haven't heard of their own governor?).  Again, Trump is doing abysmally, even worse than Hillary (which is probably why she beats him here (43 vs. 38).

And finally Pennsylvania:


Once again, the same four on top and Trump is way down at the bottom, losing to Hillary in a head to head 45 vs. 40).  Given the amount of negative press she has been getting recently, you'd think that Trump would be able to beat her at this point.

Also, I think we are at the point where we need to consider that Hillary might night be the nominee and Biden might be.  Unlike Hillary who has enormously negative net favorability in all three states, Biden is slightly positive, making him an even tougher target.  Having Trump, who is so disliked by the general population run against someone people are at least slightly positive on, will probably not end well for the GOP.  At this point it looks like Rubio, Kasich, Fiorina and Carson would be much better choices than Trump (though I don't think Carson is ready and Kasich might be too liberal for me) if we want to compete.


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1 posted on 08/20/2015 9:43:34 AM PDT by libertarian neocon
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To: libertarian neocon

Anyone who believes any of these people can and will ignite the type of excitement Trump does is welcome to think that way. I don’t.


2 posted on 08/20/2015 9:47:08 AM PDT by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)
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To: libertarian neocon

3 posted on 08/20/2015 9:50:48 AM PDT by Objective Scrutator (All liberals are criminals, and all criminals are liberals)
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To: libertarian neocon

Cool.

I don’t have any intention of voting for any of them.


4 posted on 08/20/2015 9:57:32 AM PDT by chris37 (Heartless)
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To: jmaroneps37

“Anyone who believes any of these people can and will ignite the type of excitement Trump does is welcome to think that way. I don’t.”

I think he ignites positive excitement in a lot of Republicans, but not a plurality and he ignites negative excitement in almost everyone else. So the excitement goes both ways.

I heard some of the things he said at the NH town hall he did yesterday and he did excite me but I know he won’t be able to do 90% of what he says he will do because of Congress and the Supreme Court. We’ll get a change in foreign policy and that’s it.


5 posted on 08/20/2015 10:01:10 AM PDT by libertarian neocon
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"in terms of net favorability"

Left off part of you headline. I'm sure it was unintentional, but a fair numbers of folks sure do like these favorability polls, and they're only place some candidates can find any hope. The problem is, they change faster that voter preference polls and mean very little at this point.

Trump's moving up in other favorability polls. The more he talks issues, the higher his support and favorability will climb.

6 posted on 08/20/2015 10:05:24 AM PDT by Will88
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The poll is bogus or “battleground states” is a euphemism for “places filled with morons.”


7 posted on 08/20/2015 10:12:06 AM PDT by peyton randolph (I am not a number. I am a free man.)
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To: libertarian neocon

Inflation: let’s find any measure possible to put Trump in last place


8 posted on 08/20/2015 10:14:30 AM PDT by BRL
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To: BRL

Inflation equals translation


9 posted on 08/20/2015 10:15:12 AM PDT by BRL
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To: libertarian neocon
I heard some of the things he said at the NH town hall he did yesterday and he did excite me but I know he won’t be able to do 90% of what he says he will do because of Congress and the Supreme Court.

Two of the four (likely three) mentioned in the headline will give us Amnesty....Kind of narrows the choices as I see it....

10 posted on 08/20/2015 10:18:17 AM PDT by Rational Thought
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To: Will88

“”in terms of net favorability”

Left off part of you headline.”

Yes, my headline was too long for Free Republic so I had to shorten it


11 posted on 08/20/2015 10:26:58 AM PDT by libertarian neocon
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12 posted on 08/21/2015 9:01:42 AM PDT by entropy12 (Trump is incorruptible. He is the only one who can run a campaign without rich donors.)
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