Posted on 08/30/2015 3:13:50 PM PDT by The Looking Spoon
I'm not a Trump supporter, but he's definitely making things fun.
I've been here on FR since 1998. I've lost track of how many times I've been attacked by those who don't agree with me.
I'm a big boy, I can take it. :-)
I think he’s disgusting, has no conservative principles, and is being annointed by the media simply for his celebrity value.
However, if he gives GOP candidates the support to go into attack mode, that will be his contribution. At the moment, Trump is only attacking other GOP candidates, but maybe at some point he’ll attack the Dems. Or maybe not, since a lot of his support comes from older white Dems.
There are only two possible GOP candidates I think are good, Jindal and Fiorina. Jindal has political experience, Fiorina does not. But they’re both hands-on competent people, and after a few years of the Marxist Islamist golfer who is giving away our country to the Third World and only appears in public when he wants to disparage whites and law enforcement, I’d say competency wins.
Maybe these candidates will feel more empowered after Trump’s performance and will attack the GOPe mentality, which goes way beyond candidates. Fiorina has done so consistently but has been ignored by the media, and Jindal (not a very good speaker, she’s better) actually came out today with a strong attack on the GOPe. But what they all really have to do is attack Obama and the Dems, and Trump is not doing that - which is why the MSM loves him.
That’s the first thing I thought of when I heard Trump was running - he’ll at least make the otherwise boring, wretched “debates” palatable if not downright fun to watch.
I agree.
I have noticed the exact same thing.
They are Trump supporters, but lack the courage to say so, for fear of ridicule from the anti Trump trolls here.
Be not afraid, i Say.
Gee, do you suppose Trump is running all over the country, fueling up his jet, making speeches everywhere, just so he can step aside and let someone else take his spot? And, so if he fails - then what? We have a bunch of phonies who didn’t step up to the plate when they had the chance to choose from? There isn’t the enthusiasm for the other candidates - the majority of them can’t or won’t capture the cross over voters either - so, we will probably lose another election.
Like some of you, I think I comprehend that you can be for someone and still see problems and issues with them. Here’s my latest feeling about Trump...
IMO, a RINO, is someone who love politics more than America. That is not Trump IMO. I think Trump is absolutely sincere about “making America great again” and his first foray in doing so is blasting political correctness and the anti-masculine popular culture - badly needed in America. Strong on defense and at least dealing decisively with illegal immigration. He has also said he wants to eliminate corporate tax (no such thing, really - a corporate tax is simply a hidden tax on Americans becasue the tax cost is passed on to the consumer with higher prices).
Where Trump is off target is:
- raising punitive tariffs to deal with economic symptoms which fails to address both the actual causes and effective solutions to our economic issues (hint: the REAL economic culprit is the $4 trillion mostly unconstitutional federal government and their forced minimum wage, union protection, and tonnage of costly, wasteful, dead-end, useless regulations.
- graduated tax and actually wanting to raise upper-end taxes. EXACTLY the OPPOSITE of what we need. We need to nuke the 70-zillion-page tax code and replace with a simple flat tax, somewhere between 10-15%.
- mixing up his personal love for women and their health with the constitutional limitations of the federal government which does not include authority to meddle in healthcare at all.
Trump may be the beginning of the way out of America’s Obamesque quagmire, but America will need a strong leader with a Cruz-like vision of putting the federal government back into it constitutional cage and giving the country back to the people.
Trump doesn’t seem to quite get that what made America great once and what will make America great again isn’t more government, but FREEDOM: the ABSENCE of government and replacing dependence on man with a faith, trust, and dependence in God.
Yer Purdy.
Sometimes the Revolution comes in mysterious ways...
Some on this forum will attack anyone who states anything positive about Trump. I was attacked last night even though I never said I supported or wold vote for Trump. I said something positive about the Trump movement and I was vociferously attacked as a liberal moron or some such nonsense. The poster then started the same old song and dance that if Trump's the nominee they would vote independent and throw away their vote out of principal. You know, like how we lost to Obama twice out of "principal". It's deja vu all over again.
You must have missed what Trump said about the tax code. His idea was a starter - then possibly go to a fair or flat tax. He just wants to get a start on changing the monstrosity we currently have. That’s a plus. Cruz nor Trump can do much about things without Congress. However, that hasn’t been a problem for zero, has it? I think you should also do a little more research on tariffs.
What should be the Trump anthem.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJ3tqIukBKg
Well, I’ve seen where Trump has said or implied that he’s willing to flex if he sees it’s for America’s good - so that’s hopeful on some of these issues.
So many don’t get tariffs which are nothing more than a tax on the country raising the tariff. If it weren’t for the 16th Amendment, tariffs could be a good way of raising revenue as it used to be. But tariffs are a TERRIBLE economic “tool” - it’s like shooting yourself in the foot - and does nothing to address the DIRECT CAUSES of our economic problems - minimum wage for example.
Maybe someone other than Rand Paul has said it, but I have yet to hear anyone talk about REPEALING MINIMUM WAGE, probably the single most destructive economic factor the feds have perpetrated on the U.S. THE FEDS - not China, Japan, or the Man in the Moon - are the REAL economic culprits.
Exactly so. The GOPe has shown they must be dismantled first, since their purpose is to run interference for the fascist left.
If Trump is the vehicle for that necessary step, then any other faults are irrelevant.
ROFL!!!! YES IT SHOULD! :-)
You really should talk about currency devaluations, also. Trump and Icahn will teach.
You should be. Guaranteed if he gets out of the race it will go back to business as usual, guaranteed.
As it stands now, Trump is popular and has a lot of support, yet we are told that he can’t win the nomination.
And Clinton is downright hated by much of the public, and we are told she can’t lose the nomination.
Irrespective of the merits of Trump or Clinton, something is wrong here.
As fer as I’m concerned, you kin do as you please. I think you’ll eventually come around, anyhow. Trump won the deal in Nashville on Saturday with 56%, if memory serves. Do you need a tree to fall on you?
I’ll stick my neck out and say, that’s the way Trump likes it. That will become even more apparent when they team up on an appearance AGAINST the Iran deal in a week or two.
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