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Ted Cruz, 1st 8 U.S. presidents all ineligible!
wnd.com ^ | JAN. 16, 2016 | Matt Barber

Posted on 01/16/2016 3:43:22 AM PST by Berlin_Freeper

Stinkin’ Canadian. Dang feriner, conspirin’ to come over here and replace our delicious, crispy, all-American bacon with that floppy, communist, Canadian crap. And Budweiser? Like your Budweiser? Forget it. If he’s elected, it’s nothing but that skunky Molson swill for you, my friend. Football? Banned. It’s all sticks, pucks and missing teeth from here on out. A wall on the southern border? ISIS? TB-infected Mesicans and Central Americans? Ha! A mere diversion. Trump needs to build that wall up north to keep commie Canucks like Ted Cruz out of the White House.

He’s gaining on The Donald, you see. And so finally the question of his eligibility to serve as our 45th U.S. president is fair game. Oh, sure, Ted grew up in Houston, Texas. And, oh, sure, his mother, who happened to be over the border in Canada when Ted was born, is a U.S citizen, herself born in Wilmington, Delaware, which, oh, sure, automatically makes Ted a U.S. citizen from birth. But, hey! I, the guys down at the Elks Lodge with their pocket constitutions and whatnot, and Donald Trump, who, with his own political self-interests in mind has suddenly flip-flopped on the subject, all disagree. Ted Cruz is ineligible to serve as President of the United States based upon our extreme-minority take on the phrase, “Natural-born citizen.”

For that matter, and based upon our own arbitrary and narrow definition – I know, it’s not defined in the Constitution, but derpity derp derp anyway – some might suggest that eight of the first nine U.S. presidents should have been ineligible to serve as well. Since they were all born as British citizens in the British colonies, George Washington, John Adams, Thomas Jefferson, et al., should have been, one and all, constitutionally ineligible.

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This really kills the "what the framers had in mind" ploy. The framers had in mind that those who were foreign born can be President under acceptable circumstance.
1 posted on 01/16/2016 3:43:22 AM PST by Berlin_Freeper
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To: Berlin_Freeper
"No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty-five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States."

If you were a citizen at the time of the adoption of the constitution you didn't have to be natural born.

I thought Cruz was supposed to be a defender of the constitution. Why are his supporters coming up with all of these frivolous arguments to defend his ineligibility?

2 posted on 01/16/2016 3:54:48 AM PST by DannyTN
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To: Berlin_Freeper

The first 8 where “grandfathered in” by the Constitution BECAUSE the country was at its nexus. But of course the Framers wanted PURE citizens to be presidents afterwards. They DIDN’T say “only citizens” can be president, they said “only special citizens” can be president. There is NOTHING special about Cruz’s citizenship. Special citizenship was understood to be pure, unassailable, unquestionable, and NON-foreign. The FACT that Cruz’s eligibility is be questioned points to the OBVIOUSNESS of its inferiority to others. There are millions of natural born citizens in the country. Obama is not one, Cruz is not one, Rubio is not one. All of my life it was COMPLETELY UNDERSTOOD that to be president you had to be born in AMERICA. Why have we walked this back? Why the desire to challenge the wisdom of the Founders? It is mind-boggling.


3 posted on 01/16/2016 3:55:31 AM PST by freedomjusticeruleoflaw (Western Civilization- whisper the words, and it will disappear. So let us talk now about rebirth.)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

they were citizens at the time of the adoption of the constitution dumba55.


4 posted on 01/16/2016 3:56:20 AM PST by RC one (race baiting and demagoguery-if you're a Democrat it's what you do.)
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In his emails to the Guardian, Tribe discussed Cruz’s own approach to constitutional issues, noting that under “the kind of judge Cruz says he admires and would appoint to the supreme court - an ‘originalist’ who claims to be bound by the historical meaning of the constitution’s terms at the time of their adoption - Cruz wouldn’t be eligible because the legal principles that prevailed in the 1780s and 90s required that someone be born on US soil to be a ‘natural born’ citizen.”

He added: “Even having two US parents wouldn’t suffice for a genuine originalist. And having just an American mother, as Cruz did, would clearly have been insufficient at a time that made patrilineal descent decisive.

“On the other hand, to the kind of judge that I admire and Cruz abhors - a ‘living constitutionalist’ who believes that the constitution’s meaning evolves with the needs of the time - Cruz would ironically be eligible because it no longer makes sense to be bound by so narrow and strict a definition.”

Tribe said: “There is no single, settled answer. And our supreme court has never addressed the issue.”


5 posted on 01/16/2016 4:02:25 AM PST by Helicondelta
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To: Berlin_Freeper

How embarrassing for you to post this pathetic and beyond clueless defense of Cruz.


6 posted on 01/16/2016 4:03:17 AM PST by Godebert
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To: Godebert

Right. the author of this tripe is desperately trying to confuse people.


7 posted on 01/16/2016 4:05:16 AM PST by RC one (race baiting and demagoguery-if you're a Democrat it's what you do.)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Didn’t WND lead the charge against Obama being born in Kenya? This is a really really stupid article.


8 posted on 01/16/2016 4:05:52 AM PST by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: Helicondelta
Tribe said: "There is no single, settled answer. And our supreme court has never addressed the issue."

Larry Tribe is incorrect on this point.

MINOR V. HAPPERSETT IS BINDING PRECEDENT AS TO THE CONSTITUTIONAL DEFINITION OF A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN.

9 posted on 01/16/2016 4:06:23 AM PST by Godebert
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“Cruz would ironically be eligible because it no longer makes sense to be bound by so narrow and strict a definition.”

If it no longer makes sense, then amend the Constitution.


10 posted on 01/16/2016 4:06:51 AM PST by wkg
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Tribe; "On the other hand, to the kind of judge that I admire and Cruz abhors - a ‘living constitutionalist’ who believes that the constitution’s meaning evolves with the needs of the time - Cruz would ironically be eligible because it no longer makes sense to be bound by so narrow and strict a definition."

The patrilineal thesis that Tribe is espousing was indeed the rule in 1789. It is no longer, but that is not because of any 'living constitution' bullcrap.

It is because of the 14th Amendment.

11 posted on 01/16/2016 4:07:55 AM PST by John Valentine (Deep in the Heart of Texas)
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Um...the Founders *specifically* included a grandfather clause specifying that those who were US citizens *at the time of the adoption of the Constitution* were eligible.

Hence, dumb Cruz-supporter argument is completely, utterly destroyed.

Really, you’d think that the people following the supposedly “constitutionalist” candidate wouldn’t fall for such simple and easy-to-refute arguments.


12 posted on 01/16/2016 4:10:26 AM PST by Yashcheritsiy (What good is a constitution if you don't have a country to go with it?)
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To: wkg
If it no longer makes sense, then amend the Constitution.

Already done: Amendment 14, ratified July 9, 1868.

13 posted on 01/16/2016 4:10:32 AM PST by John Valentine (Deep in the Heart of Texas)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

birthers bought them upon themselves by saying one has to be born in the US on US soil and both parents must be US presidents. Wanna go down that silly path this is the result


14 posted on 01/16/2016 4:13:57 AM PST by RginTN
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To: John Valentine
The patrilineal thesis that Tribe is espousing was indeed the rule in 1789. It is no longer, but that is not because of any 'living constitution' bullcrap. It is because of the 14th Amendment.

In defining what an Article II natural born Citizen is, we do not seek to read into the Constitution that which was not intended and written there by the Framers. Despite popular belief, the Fourteenth Amendment does not convey the status of "natural born Citizen" in its text nor in its intent. Some add an implication to the actual wording of the Fourteenth Amendment by equating the amendment's "citizen" to Article II's "natural born Citizen." But nowhere does the 14th Amendment confer "natural born citizen" status. The words simply do not appear there, but some would have us believe they are implied. But the wording of the Amendment is clear in showing that it confers citizenship only and nothing more.

Neither the 14th Amendment nor Wong Kim Ark make one a Natural Born Citizen

15 posted on 01/16/2016 4:16:58 AM PST by Godebert
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To: RginTN
both parents must be US presidents.

If this is the case, then there's nobody alive who is eligible. LOL

16 posted on 01/16/2016 4:17:17 AM PST by Yashcheritsiy (What good is a constitution if you don't have a country to go with it?)
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To: John Valentine

I will respond to every time you post that lie.


17 posted on 01/16/2016 4:18:35 AM PST by Godebert
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To: John Valentine

The originalist view is that Cruz is not eligible because he was not born in US soil.

The libs would be more likely to side with him but probably won’t for political reasons.

In summary, he is doomed.


18 posted on 01/16/2016 4:20:33 AM PST by Helicondelta
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To: Yashcheritsiy

its early and I haven’t had coffee yet!

should be- both parents must be US residents

;)


19 posted on 01/16/2016 4:20:36 AM PST by RginTN
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To: John Valentine
Already done: Amendment 14, ratified July 9, 1868.

The 14th amendment doesn't define or determine who is a natural born citizen.

20 posted on 01/16/2016 4:21:50 AM PST by Yashcheritsiy (What good is a constitution if you don't have a country to go with it?)
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