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Mark Levin's Tortured Defense of Cruz Eligibility
Trump Campaign Analysis Blog ^ | 1/16/2016 | Greg Buls

Posted on 01/17/2016 5:18:24 PM PST by usafa92

Mark Levin has spent years defending the Constitution, his radio show bumpers refer to him as "Mr. Constitution". In his view, the constitutional debates and the views of the founding fathers should determine its meaning.

Levin has abandoned this standard in his defense of Ted Cruz's eligibility to run for President. This is evident in at least two ways - ignoring the founders' intentions and arguments, and suggesting that there are only two types of citizenship: naturalized and natural born. Levin revisits this issue with exasperation every day, knocking Mr. Trump and others for discussing it. Last week he referred to the issue as a 'turd in the swimming pool'. Let's examine it.

Canada is a possession of the English Crown. The analog in the founders time was England itself. Levin is suggesting that a person born after the founding, in England, with English citizenship, to parents of mixed allegiance, would have passed the founders' scrutiny. That idea should seem absurd on its face.

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TOPICS: Politics
KEYWORDS: birther; birtherism; cruz; levin; marklevin; naturalborncitizen; trump
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To: fatez

God Bless you and your family as well. One thing I can’t wait for.....primary to be over.


61 posted on 01/17/2016 5:55:06 PM PST by napscoordinator
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To: usafa92

Somewhere, Chester A. Arthur is shedding a tear...


62 posted on 01/17/2016 5:55:33 PM PST by Yashcheritsiy (What good is a constitution if you don't have a country to go with it?)
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To: MeshugeMikey

Can you name one serious constitutional argument, with attendant authority, that Levin has mentioned to attempt to establish Cruz’ constitutional eligibility to be President under the requirement of being a “natural born citizen” as set out in Article II?


63 posted on 01/17/2016 5:55:44 PM PST by AmericanVictory (Should we be more like them or they more like we used to be?)
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To: usafa92

I’m a Cruz guy myself but either of them would be preferable to Sanders and that other lady who is running.


64 posted on 01/17/2016 5:55:55 PM PST by GSWarrior
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To: usafa92

Natural Born Citizen = born on the soil to two citizen parents.

That is the purest grade of citizenship there is, and it’s what the Framers had in mind when they put that requirement for office of president into our Constitution.


65 posted on 01/17/2016 5:56:32 PM PST by Windflier (Pitchforks and torches ripen on the vine. Left too long, they become black rifles.)
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To: don-o

Why am I unhinged for being concerned that I might waste my vote voting for someone who could be disqualified by any judge who decides to do it?

Why should I risk my vote, and why does my worrying that my vote is at risk make me unhinged?


66 posted on 01/17/2016 5:56:38 PM PST by chris37 (heartless)
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To: AndyJackson

Tribe is a leftist fraud. Has always been. He is now hero to the blind Trump brigade. Psst...Tribe will be voting for Hillary.


67 posted on 01/17/2016 5:57:31 PM PST by ilgipper
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To: usafa92

The blogger’s explanation of the three levels of citizenship is what I was taught in school as a child. When I had my first child outside the USA, I still believed that he was ineligible to become President. Since doing my research on Obama, and since knowing that anchor babies will be considered NBCs by this standard, I’ve come to think that maybe Levin’s response is correct. That someone like Ted Cruz, and my son, are NBC because they were born to American women outside the country and did not need to naturalize.

The truth is that we do not know precisely if ther are three stages of citizenship or two.

The truth is that we need a final, precise definition and it probably needs to be an amendment. I don’t care personally which way, at this point, we just need a precise definition. Don’t know what will become of Ted Cruz and his eligibility. He might not win the nom so it might not matter this time, but he could have been a greet veep candidate if this were decided already.


68 posted on 01/17/2016 5:57:49 PM PST by Yaelle
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To: chris37

He did push Jeb off of the radar...for the moment.

I am cautious about declaring him dead just yet.


69 posted on 01/17/2016 5:58:06 PM PST by berdie
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To: Cboldt

Born a citizen is not synonymous with natural born citizen.


70 posted on 01/17/2016 5:58:45 PM PST by freedomjusticeruleoflaw (Western Civilization- whisper the words, and it will disappear. So let us talk now about rebirth.)
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To: napscoordinator
One thing I can’t wait for.....primary to be over.Spoken like a true American...
71 posted on 01/17/2016 5:58:48 PM PST by fatez (Ya, well, you know, that's just your opinion man...)
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To: Cold Heat
US v. Wong Kim Ark, 169 U.S. 649 (1898)

This is a difficult case to read and understand. But it is an important case for the anchor baby argument. This case, and Plyler v. Doe, enable invasion of this country over a period of time, by birthing to the invaders.

72 posted on 01/17/2016 5:59:48 PM PST by Cboldt
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To: TigerClaws

For me personally, the fact that he was born to an American mother is enough to establish NBC for me.

My problem is that I don’t have anyway of knowing if I am right or if a judge will agree with my assessment.

I could be totally wrong.

Frankly, I don’t see anything wrong with those requesting the matter be settled. I’d like the matter to be settled.

I see something wrong with those saying there is no matter to be settled, and you’re crazy for thinking that there is.

I’m not crazy.

I want to make sure I don’t throw my vote away in an important election.

What’s crazy about that?


73 posted on 01/17/2016 6:00:08 PM PST by chris37 (heartless)
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To: usafa92
Any person born outside of the US and later brought into the country has an immigration/citizenship file. At his own direction, Mr. Cruz's files are sealed.

I find that interesting. What (else) is Ted hiding?

74 posted on 01/17/2016 6:01:41 PM PST by Hugin ("First thing--get yourself a firearm!" Sheriff Ed Galt, Last Man Standing.)
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To: usafa92

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Phony piece from a phony blog owned by a morally challenged Trumpophant.

Trump is so desperate...


75 posted on 01/17/2016 6:02:53 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: traderrob6

“Anyone who can’t comprehend the sheer magnificence of The Donald”

That’s not fair! I remain in a perpetual state of awe from just a fraction of his overwhelming magnificence, the totality of which is as far beyond my comprehension as the glory of all of G_d’s works. Some of which Trump has undoubtedly improved upon.

That doesn’t make me nuts.


76 posted on 01/17/2016 6:02:57 PM PST by Flash Bazbeaux
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To: ilgipper
An ad hominem attack upon Tribe will not make what he said inaccurate. Why is what he said inaccurate? Levin has given no real reason why what he said is inaccurate and, in fact, all Levin has done on this issue is engage in ad hominem attacks. A serious constitutional scholar would not do that It is Levin who looks like a fraud on this issue.
77 posted on 01/17/2016 6:03:04 PM PST by AmericanVictory (Should we be more like them or they more like we used to be?)
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To: Cboldt

Yes they did!

The only things in it about natural born can be found in the reams of dicta.

But both sides of the natural born argument can use it freely and do.


78 posted on 01/17/2016 6:04:11 PM PST by Cold Heat
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To: freedomjusticeruleoflaw
-- Born a citizen is not synonymous with natural born citizen. --

Tell that to Cruz, Levin, Katyal, Clement, Somin, Balkin, and so on and so forth.

The authorities and implications of current "citizen-at-birth" statutes are contrary to what these propagandists are peddling. They are the tools, and the public is the fools. Who the hell is going to bother to look this stuff up? The experts label us kooks and nuts, point to the experts, and son of a bitch if it doesn't work!

79 posted on 01/17/2016 6:04:18 PM PST by Cboldt
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To: ObozoMustGo2012

Exactly!

The GS and Citibank loans are dirty.


80 posted on 01/17/2016 6:04:52 PM PST by newfreep (TRUMP & <S>Cruz</S> 2016 - "Evil succeeds when good men do nothing" - Edmund Burke)
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