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Social Security moves to block the mentally ill from purchasing guns
The Hill ^ | May 4, 2016 | Tim Devaney

Posted on 05/05/2016 1:51:52 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

The Social Security Administration (SSA) is proposing to report people who receive disability benefits and have a mental health condition to the FBI’s background check system.

The proposal, which stems from a memorandum that President Obama issued in 2013, would essentially block some people with severe mental health problems from buying guns.

The SSA, which will propose the rule in Thursday's edition of the Federal Register, says it plans to notify disability beneficiaries who might be reported and establish a process for them to appeal their placement in the FBI’s background check system. The proposal is just the latest attempt by the Obama administration to keep guns out of the hands of the mentally ill.

Similar efforts by the Department of Veterans Affairs (VA) have been met with controversy. Sen. Chuck Grassley

(R-Iowa) has accused the VA of reporting veterans to the FBI simply because they cannot manage their personal finances and must be assigned a fiduciary.

According to Grassley, 99 percent of the people the FBI prohibits from owning guns because they are considered “mentally defective” come from the VA.

Now, the SSA is proposing to take similar precautions with people who receive disability insurance because they are unable to work due to mental health disorders.

“It appears that just like the VA, SSA’s regulatory action will not require the government to first prove that the individual is a danger to self or others,” Grassley wrote last July in a letter to Carolyn Colvin, acting commissioner of the Social Security Administration.

“Is the SSA using the VA’s regulatory standard as a template for reporting names to the [FBI]?” he asked. “If not, in what ways is the SSA’s regulatory scheme different from the VA’s?”

Some of the mental conditions the SSA screens for include schizophrenia and other psychotic disorders, personality disorders, intellectual disabilities, anxiety-related disorders, substance addiction disorders and autistic disorders.

Depending on the severity of their condition, people with mental health disorders may qualify for disability insurance.

The public has 60 days to comment about the proposal.


TOPICS: Conspiracy; Government; Health/Medicine; Politics
KEYWORDS: banglist; obama
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1 posted on 05/05/2016 1:51:52 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

.gov: “Do you believe in God?” = mentally ill


2 posted on 05/05/2016 1:54:27 PM PDT by DCBryan1 (No realli, moose bytes can be quite nasti!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

An old Soviet trick was to declare enemies of the ruling class “insane” and then slowly deprive them of civil rights, rights of movement, and then eventually lock them up.

Obama isn’t even bright enough to come up with his own tricks.


3 posted on 05/05/2016 1:55:13 PM PDT by TheThirdRuffian (Orange is the new brown)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

So, now all we have to do to get our rights erased is have the VA or the SSA tell them that we’re “mentally ill”.

Wonderful. So much for the Constitution.


4 posted on 05/05/2016 1:56:03 PM PDT by Chainmail (A simple rule of life: if you can be blamed, you're responsible.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
How is this any of SSA's business?

5 posted on 05/05/2016 1:56:40 PM PDT by BitWielder1 (I'd rather have Unequal Wealth than Equal Poverty.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

So Obama is writing new law by ‘memorandum’?

If they succeed at this then everything you do will be considered a mental condition and get your guns taken away.

At least the ones that were not lost in a tragic boating accident or something.


6 posted on 05/05/2016 1:56:41 PM PDT by Mr. K (Trump will win NY state - choke on that HilLIARy)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

No doubt, opposing 0buttbongo will be fonsidered mental illness..


7 posted on 05/05/2016 1:56:51 PM PDT by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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“considered”


8 posted on 05/05/2016 1:57:24 PM PDT by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Good. If you’re crazy enough to get SSI, you’re too crazy to purchase a gun. That might slow down some of the parasites collecting SSI for imagined illness, but I doubt it.


9 posted on 05/05/2016 1:57:45 PM PDT by sparklite2 ( "The white man is the Jew of Liberal Fascism." -Jonah Goldberg)
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To: sparklite2

Like your uncle, aunt, cousin, grandfather, neighbor, congregation member....


10 posted on 05/05/2016 1:59:55 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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Put liberals at the top of the list.


11 posted on 05/05/2016 2:01:19 PM PDT by Huskrrrr
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My relatives don’t get SSI for mental illness.


12 posted on 05/05/2016 2:02:20 PM PDT by sparklite2 ( "The white man is the Jew of Liberal Fascism." -Jonah Goldberg)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

it’s gonna get a lot worse the next several hundred days.

It will be a battle until the new pres is sworn in.

I dont even trust obama to do that.

We must be prepared for anything.


13 posted on 05/05/2016 2:03:50 PM PDT by dp0622 (The only thing an upper crust conservative hates more than a liberal is a middle class conservative)
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To: sparklite2

None of them? I can’t speak for all my relatives, especially as I’m adopted.


14 posted on 05/05/2016 2:04:16 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: dp0622

If he were to delay the inauguration by even one hour he’d wish his slut mother had aborted him.


15 posted on 05/05/2016 2:05:30 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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Camel....nose.....tent.....


16 posted on 05/05/2016 2:13:16 PM PDT by FrankR (You're only enslaved to the extent of the charity that you receive!)
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To: sparklite2

I am sorry you feel that way. Not sure how old you are but if you have paid into this system for 40+ years like I have you might think you would want some of it back when you are disabled like me now.

Of course you can turn it down since you are so honorable.


17 posted on 05/05/2016 2:15:58 PM PDT by eartick (Been to the line in the sand and liked it)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“They’re coming to take your gun ho ho ha ha hee hee”


18 posted on 05/05/2016 2:18:11 PM PDT by showme_the_Glory ((ILLEGAL: prohibited by law. ALIEN: Owing political allegiance to another country or government))
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

SSA is linked to Medicare, which is linked to the prescription drug plan. Together they see all the charges, drugs and treatments you have with doctors, psychiatrists, etc. Very easy for them to say that you are banned from having a gun if you ever got a prescription for Valium.


19 posted on 05/05/2016 2:19:36 PM PDT by I want the USA back (The further a society drifts from the truth, the more it will hate those who speak it. Orwell.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Won’t be long before they throw in homophobia and belief in God as mental illnesses that will preclude gun ownership.


20 posted on 05/05/2016 2:24:33 PM PDT by PAR35
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