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Is Hillary Clinton DYING? Leak exposes medical secret
Catholic Online ^ | 8/9/2016 | David Drudge

Posted on 08/09/2016 4:27:25 PM PDT by D-fendr

And now there appears to be a leak from a New York medical office that shows a diagnosis. According to the leaked document, Clinton was diagnosed with "Complex Partial Seizures, and Subcortical Vascular Dementia."

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TOPICS: Conspiracy
KEYWORDS: disinformation; fake; fakebutaccurate; hillary2016; hillaryhealth; hillaryshealth; hoax; misinformation; phony
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To: cynwoody

Then who wrote it? Because I have worked in the medical field for 40 plus years and had never heard of this disease.

There is no physician or RN in this country who would put their entire career and license at risk to write a fake document like that. And it certainly was not written by a layman.


141 posted on 08/10/2016 12:09:05 AM PDT by MarMema (dog lives matter)
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To: MarMema
Then who wrote it?

Beats me.

But the doc named at the top of the document clearly exists. And has on record an official evaluation of HRC's health.

There is no physician or RN in this country who would put their entire career and license at risk to write a fake document like that.

As I posted, real doc, fake document.

And it certainly was not written by a layman.

Interesting. You clearly have a higher opinion of the document than some physicians who have posted on it.

142 posted on 08/10/2016 12:51:19 AM PDT by cynwoody
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To: D-fendr

I believe this has been debunked. The account that provided it on Twitter, refused to confirm it’s authenticity & suddenly closed.


143 posted on 08/10/2016 12:54:16 AM PDT by unsycophant
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To: unsycophant

>suddenly closed.

That could just mean that someone killed the leaker and closed the account. How would we know?


144 posted on 08/10/2016 12:57:06 AM PDT by RedWulf (End Free trade.)
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To: SteveO87
I am a physician and I can’t remember ever putting the patient’s SS# on their medical chart. Usually they are just identified by birthdate or medical record/account number. i think this is a fake.

From my understanding of HIPAA, it could be a violation to have a full SSN on a printed document like that. SSN’s are still used in electronic recordkeeping databases and for coordination of claims submissions to insurance companies (and FWIU, under HIPAA a patient has the right to refuse providing their SSN to a medical provider) but a full SSN is restricted to only those with a need to know basis, i.e. the billing department and at most would display as xxx-xx-1234, only the last 4 digits being visible or printable. Because of concerns over confidentiality and of identity theft, HHS/HIPAA has been pushing for the elimination of using SSN’s as identifiers on medical records.

But aside from the SSN question, I also find it not credible as a real office visit note for several other reasons and as you are a physician, perhaps you could weigh in.

It notes current medications but only in vague terms – not the actual name of any of the medications nor their present dosages. Likewise, it mentions increasing dosages of “anti-depressants” and “anti-anxiety medications” but again, does not name the medications specifically nor what the dosage were increased to.

Next someone with the conditions mentioned, particularly Subcortical Vascular Dementia would be treated by a neurologist not an internist. An internist may treat other issues and conditions but I would think, would coordinate care and would likely consult with her neurologist (who would I think also be named in the office visit note) before changing medications especially if the patient’s chief complaint was “dizziness, fatigue, “mini-seizures” and memory loss.

Finally, the records make no mention of her vital signs – BP, heart rate, temperature, weight, etc. which are always part of every visit and even a routine or follow up office visit and would be if I am not mistaken, always be noted. A doctor would also note their general observations of the patient – was she alert, what was the doctor’s overall impression of the patient’s physical appearance and demeanor.

And lastly, the “I advised her to travel with a medical team” does not sound like something any doctor would write in someone’s medical record.

Just for purposes of illustrating and providing some examples of what doctor visit notes should actually contain:

Sample Outpatient Notes

145 posted on 08/10/2016 2:52:34 AM PDT by MD Expat in PA
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To: Vic S
Hillary Clinton is shovel ready.

THAT's hitting the ball. Nice Cut!

146 posted on 08/10/2016 5:46:31 AM PDT by Tenacious 1 (You couldn't pay me enough to be famous for being stupid!)
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To: MarMema

Thank you very much for your explanations. Makes total sense.


147 posted on 08/10/2016 7:43:26 AM PDT by little jeremiah (Half the truth is often a great lie. B. Franklin)
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To: unsycophant

Twitter shuts down stuff it doesn’t want, hides, and so on, just like FB. You don’t know that?


148 posted on 08/10/2016 7:44:00 AM PDT by little jeremiah (Half the truth is often a great lie. B. Franklin)
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To: MD Expat in PA

And lastly, the “I advised her to travel with a medical team” does not sound like something any doctor would write in someone’s medical record.


If the person was Hitlery Clinton, a doctor might advise that.


149 posted on 08/10/2016 7:44:44 AM PDT by little jeremiah (Half the truth is often a great lie. B. Franklin)
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To: little jeremiah

It might have been in fact a report of some kind for her medical team.


150 posted on 08/10/2016 8:23:15 AM PDT by MarMema (dog lives matter)
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To: MarMema

Of course I am a total layperson, but it looked like notes or a memo for internal use by her team.


151 posted on 08/10/2016 8:39:00 AM PDT by little jeremiah (Half the truth is often a great lie. B. Franklin)
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To: MarMema

Oh, you mean Hitlery’s medical team or the one that worked with the doctor?


152 posted on 08/10/2016 8:39:34 AM PDT by little jeremiah (Half the truth is often a great lie. B. Franklin)
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To: originalbuckeye
Well, the doctor listed is on the Internet in Mt Kisco, the next town NE of Chappaqua. Can anyone authenticate this?

Mount Kisco Medical Group has been in business for years. It is filled with top Docs who handle the upper middle class clientele in Northeastern Westchester County. Mount Kisco is close to upper crust towns such as Chappaqua and Bedford (where Trump has a home)

The only thing I find problematic is that these look like Word documents rather than something produced by Electronic Medical Record software. I would also believe that Mount Kisco Medical Group being in Business for so long would have better letter head on which to print out reports. Finally if they are legit who ever released these document is in deep doo doo given the jail time that HIPPA places on the release of medical records.

153 posted on 08/10/2016 8:48:06 AM PDT by stig
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To: little jeremiah

Yes I’m well aware of that. The account was shut down by the owner of the account. I promise.


154 posted on 08/10/2016 10:25:53 AM PDT by unsycophant
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To: unsycophant

I’m not familiar with twitter workings. How can you tell?


155 posted on 08/10/2016 10:45:11 AM PDT by little jeremiah (Half the truth is often a great lie. B. Franklin)
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To: little jeremiah
“And lastly, the “I advised her to travel with a medical team” does not sound like something any doctor would write in someone’s medical record.”

If the person was Hitlery Clinton, a doctor might advise that.

Sorry. That just doesn’t pass the smell test. No doctor IMO would ever write something so vague in a patient’s medical record no matter who the patient was. What sort of “medical team”? What sort of medical personnel? If travel was really an issue and a concern any doctor of any salt would suggest not traveling.

As I said up thread, the document looks nothing like what a doctor would write and submit to a patient’s - any patient’s medical record. Note that lack of specifics as to medications and their dosages, note the absence of any vital signs taken at the time of the appointment.

Y’all have been punk’d. By whom and why remains a question.

156 posted on 08/10/2016 12:16:28 PM PDT by MD Expat in PA
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To: MD Expat in PA

Remains to be seen.


157 posted on 08/10/2016 1:14:13 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Half the truth is often a great lie. B. Franklin)
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