Posted on 10/14/2016 5:07:46 AM PDT by MichCapCon
The Saginaw County Sheriffs Department has yet to explain how 56,000 miles were added to the odometer of a classic muscle car that it seized and held for over a year before selling it. The county also denied a Freedom of Information Act request for more documents regarding the vehicle following a previous article detailing the civil asset forfeiture case.
On Sept. 13, it was reported that 56,000 miles had been added to a 1965 Chevy Nova SS, which was owned by Shiawassee County couple Gerald and Royetta Ostipow, while it was in the possession of the department. Information in the report came from a seizure-related form from the department as well as a title transfer document.
A day later, Saginaw County Sheriff William Federspiel went on the Frank Beckmann Show and said allegations were not fact-based, citing the same title documents.
A lot of what Ive seen reported is allegation not based on fact and we have copies of the title and the mileage and all that, he said.
Days later, the Mackinac Center for Public Policy sent the county a FOIA request asking for the Chevy Novas vehicle logs, or sign-out sheets.
On Sept. 26, the county denied the FOIA request, saying it did not have the requested documents. It added that the previous news report was based on inaccurate factual representations, including the false premise that the 1965 Chevrolet Nova seized by the Saginaw County Sheriffs Department was subsequently operated by the Saginaw County Sheriffs Department.
The Ostipows filed the lawsuit on Aug. 24 with the U.S. District Court in Detroit against Federspiel, the department and a number of unnamed sheriff's deputies, alleging that the department seized hundreds of thousands of dollars of the couples property. The suit also said that the department sold the seized property including the Nova before there was a final determination of forfeitability and despite the Ostipows never being charged with a crime.
The lawsuit stems from a series of searches in April 2008 of the Ostipows' two Shiawassee County properties. In addition to seizing the vehicle and an accompanying trailer, deputies also took dozens of animal mounts, tools, deer blinds and farming implements. Those items were stored on a farmhouse property the Ostipows owned, down the street from their residence. Their grown son, Steven Ostipow, lived in the farmhouse.
Deputies found marijuana plants and seeds from a growing operation their son maintained before the department seized various items. The elder Ostipows have claimed they did not know he was growing marijuana.
A trial court later ruled that Ostipows were not, in fact, innocent owners, but knew about the marijuana operation. The Michigan Court of Appeals later found that Royetta Ostipows portion of property seized from the farmhouse including the Nova should be returned. Another trial court found that most of the personal property seized was improperly taken and was ordered non-forfeitable. The lawsuit filed by the senior Ostipows alleges Federspiel and his department sold off the property before a ruling came down on the forfeitability of the seized items.
The title and seizure documents show that 56,000 miles were added to the vehicle.
According to an official forfeiture document dated April 24, 2008, a detective wrote that the vehicles odometer read 73,865. According to the title assignment by seller form dated June 2009 around the time the department sold the vehicle for $1,500 the mileage was recorded as 130,000 and signed by Federspiel.
Federspiel and Saginaw County did not respond to questions asking for an explanation of how, if nobody in the department had driven the vehicle, 56,000 miles were add to the odometer.
In his radio interview, Federspiel blamed his predecessor for the cars seizure. He did not become sheriff until January 2009, after the seizure, as was noted on Beckmanns show.
This case originated under my predecessor, the sheriff who was before me, he said. Nine months worth before I ever became sheriff. Federspiel added everything his department does related to forfeitures is at the direction of the county prosecutors office.
Philip Ellison, one of the Ostipows' lawyers, contends the lawsuit isnt challenging the seizure of the property, but the sale of the property under Federspiels watch.
In the radio interview, Federspiel also said that the Nova, which was on a trailer at the time it was seized, was not operable.
Ellison disputes this, saying that the Nova was operable its engine was working and the vehicle could be driven although it was missing seats that were being reupholstered when the department seized the car.
There are a lot of questions surrounding what Sheriff Federspiel and those under his command did or did not do with the Ostipows' property property that took a lifetime of hard work to obtain and a few hours for the deputies to improperly seize, Ellison said. One of those questions is the mileage discrepancy with the restored 1965 Nova.
On his radio interview, Federspiel also said the department would release a formal statement and a timeline detailing events involving the Ostipows' case. Emails asking for the statement and timeline were not returned.
In a response to the complaint filed with the federal court, Federspiel and 10 other unnamed sheriffs deputies denied nearly every accusation.
We expect the federal lawsuit will force the sheriff to admit his department's cavalier attitude to the Ostipows and many others who have been wrongfully treated by questionable use of the civil forfeiture statute, Ellison added.
A ‘65, and they don’t know how to roll the odometer? Or drive it 44,000 more miles?
“...civil asset forfeiture...”
More proof there is no Constitution.
For a '65 Nova? Somebody got a real good deal I think......
-—...questionable use of the civil forfeiture statute...-—
Think it’s bad now? If Hillary gets in it’s going to be: ‘all your assets are belong to us’.
“Civil Asset Forfeiture”
....and cops wonder why people want to shoot them all the time.
Duh.
Shooting someone who is stealing your property is perfectly legal in many states.
Yet there are any number of ‘law & order’ types infesting this site who would disagree...
Thank you. Or just disconnect the speedometer before borrowing the car. Easier than installing an eight-track.
56,000 miles in a year on a ‘65 Nova? That’s a helluva lot of driving. What was the fuel bill?
56,000 miles is a lot of time on the road. In very rough figures, let’s say 1,000 hours, or about 3 hours every single day. I’d think people around there would have noticed, since you don’t see a 1965 Nova all that often.
“department sold the vehicle for $1,500
For a ‘65 Nova? Somebody got a real good deal I think.....”
Oh yea, a great deal! And I get the feeling that whomever bought it was buddies with the department....
At 16 mpg, you can figure 3,500 gallons were used up.
So, now let’s get to the audit or legal side of this....do you want to make a bet that the county sheriff’s gas card business....has roughly 3,500 gallons extra used over that one year period, and that the sheriff’s office paid for that gas out of their funds?
How illegal do you think that is? They might get away with the seizure but using the county gas card for personal use like this? That’s a hefty fine and probably reason for termination.
Pigeon pucks. This story's got more holes than a set of honeycomb wheels.
You’ve just got to love the sheriff’s defense. It didn’t happen, and besides I wasn’t responsible.
So the seller was too lazy to check mileage and made up a figure on the high side.
Think they gave a tip to the buyer?
“And I get the feeling that whomever bought it was buddies with the department....”
Yeah, somebody ought to look into that. But if someone really put 56k on it in a single year, it might have been pretty ragged out.
Clouded title from the improper seizure, too.
What do you think a Drug War looks like?
“...although it was missing seats that were being reupholstered when the department seized the car.”
What’d the sheriff sit on? A 5-gallon plastic bucket?
Besides, a four-door “muscle car” (missing the seats)?
Nah.... they can keep it.
Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.