Damage profile of Elite 5.7x28mm Protector II (50gr Winchester Ballistic Silvertip) vs Federal .45ACP 230gr Hydrashok.
Posted on 10/20/2016 7:47:19 AM PDT by Elderberry
Sig Sauer
Your post reminds me of the Johnny Cash song “one piece at a time”.
I like anything 1911 like or similar.
The feel
Glocks are blocky
No doubt reliable but I find no safety troublesome for grunts
For my taste besides 1911 or derivatives
Steyr GB
Sig 230/232
FN ...of course
P7 or P9 Heckler and Koch....finger pointers
Only advantage to 9mm is weight or ammo
But it’s not your primary so?
What about the new hyper 20 cal they are developing to shoot rifle or pistol
5.7x28
It damn well should be made here
I meant shotgun. Although Marines are considered riflemen, at the (then called) Force Battalion training (Embassy Guards) it was primarily physical conditioning, physical combat, pistol, and shotgun.
We didnt win 2 WW with it. It was one in a larger cast of tools brought to bear on the enemy. In its day the 1911 was state of the art, not any more and there are FAR better platforms. I understand the nostalgia of it but its a poor way of choosing a tool used in life/death situations. Glad you like yours and thats its served you well. The world has moved on tho.
It gets along quite nicely with my Bersa, my Glock and my Sig.
However, it is the only one that provides me with .45 inches of security. I like the .40 S&W of the Glock, and I guess the 9MM of the Sig is acceptable, if I go up against some average European from the early 1900s. The .380 will cramp an adversary so that I can kick him to death.
All in all, I prefer the .45 ACP, but then, I am a nostalgic throw-back to a more primitive age, totally lacking in sophistication and nuance.
It seems all youre really interested in is caliber. If thats truly the case there are far better platforms...as Ive been saying.
‘...totally lacking in sophistication and nuance.’
So, welcome to class. Its not too late to add to your learning if youre willing to be teachable. You might even find something better.
I am awed by your nuanced and sophisticated arrogance!
I believe we have completed our exchanges. Have a nice life.
And by the way, I prefer the 7.62 Nato over the Mattie Mattel Special.
Oh come on now...I didnt peg you for a quiter. Persent your facts Im all ears.
Perhaps Im not the one w/ the ego problem. Youre faced with facts that kill your sacred cow. Bury it and get on with life. Youll be happier..as will everyone around you.
The 7.62x51 is a good cartridge as is the 5.56x45. Nothing wrong with either based on mission. The Mattel comment gives me pause tho. Thats a platform not cartridge. So are we talking cartirdge or platform here?
Even the single-stack Glocks feel blocky to me. The HK USPs too, but not the P7/9. Most full-size Sigs fit me fine. The compact 232 is a natural pointer like the PPK, but with better reliability.
Feel is real important. If it doesn’t feel like a natural extension, it doesn’t get shot nearly as much as it should. At least from my experience.
We also affectionately referred to Force Battalion training as “Gunslinger School”
Semper Paratus
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