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Australian official: ‘Look at the template of our laws and challenge the NRA’
guns.com ^ | Oct. 4, 2017 | Brian Seay

Posted on 10/04/2017 12:53:15 PM PDT by PROCON

While authorities investigate and Americans seek answers in the wake of Sunday’s massacre in Las Vegas, Australia is offering to help the U.S. reshape its gun laws.

Following a mass shooting in Port Arthur in 1996 that left 35 people dead, Australian officials enacted major gun control legislation. Now officials are offering to help America do the same, according to a cable news station based in Singapore.

“What we can offer is our experience,” said Australian Foreign Minister Julie Bishop, talking about her country’s gun buyback program and subsequent ban on semi-automatic and automatic weapons.

“But at the end of the day it’s going to be up to the United States legislators and lawmakers, and the United States public, to change the laws to ensure this type of incident doesn’t happen again,” she said.

Nearly 661,000 firearms were sold back to the Australian government and subsequently destroyed in the aftermath of the Port Arthur massacre. In addition to weapons bans, they enacted a minimum ownership age and required licenses to own firearms.

“We haven’t had a massacre since,” wrote Australian broadcaster Richard Glover in the Washington Post Tuesday. “We, of course, know we could still experience a massacre. We are not smug. We’re grateful about our luck.”

On his radio program this week, Glover asked Tim Fischer, Australia’s deputy prime minister in the mid-1990’s, about the political backlash he received when he took on the gun lobby in his country.

“Lynched in effigy, but no real harm done,” Fischer said, describing a demonstration in 1996 where angry protestors destroyed a dummy made to look like him. In a state election soon after, Fischer’s party, which represented many farmers in the country, lost 12 seats to a pro-gun party, but eventually regained all lost political support. Fischer says it was worth it.

“We had the courage on both sides of the aisle in the House of Representatives…to make the stand we made,” Fischer said. “The vast majority of Australians came to accept the outcome.”

The country continues to accept the move. Just last weekend, Australians finished turning in an estimated 26,000 guns in the first national firearm amnesty since the sweeping reforms more than two decades ago. Australians were able to legally hand in unregistered weapons without giving personal details over a three month period. Aussies caught carrying an unregistered gun face a hefty fine and up to 14 years behind bars.

Fischer said Australians should think twice about coming to America for vacation, something he said after last summer’s massacre at a gay night club in Orlando. He also said the White House is wrong to say now isn’t the time for gun control.

“Now is exactly the time,” he said, adding, “the U.S.A. as a whole should take our laws and look at the template of our laws and challenge the NRA.”

Gun rights activists argue the crime rate increased following the gun ban as well as murders of other sorts. While the country experienced a surge in sexual assaults and robberies immediately following the gun ban, overall crime by 2012 dropped back down to pre-ban levels, crime data shows.

However, a 2016 study shows that gun deaths as well as non-gun deaths have declined in Australia, but researchers said the results may be because of improvements in technology like cell phones rather than the legislation. Rates in the U.S. also followed similar trends in that same time frame.


TOPICS: Government; Military/Veterans; Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: australia; banglist; gunconfiscation; gungrabers
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Um, how about NO!!

But, can you imagine if Hillary! had become President, this would be exactly the kind of confiscation she would consider, and she has spoken out in favor of Australian type gun confiscation in the past.

Stand up for the 2nd Amendment, President Trump!

1 posted on 10/04/2017 12:53:16 PM PDT by PROCON
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2 posted on 10/04/2017 12:53:52 PM PDT by PROCON (#MAGA)
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Get stuffed!

I am the NRA!

3 posted on 10/04/2017 12:54:45 PM PDT by grobdriver (Where is Wilson Blair when you need him?)
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To: PROCON

Dear Australia.

You gave up your rights to the State.

So FOAD.


4 posted on 10/04/2017 12:55:11 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Prayers for Las Vegas)
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To: PROCON

What does the NRA have to do with it?


5 posted on 10/04/2017 12:56:03 PM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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Mind your own sinking countries business Australia.


6 posted on 10/04/2017 12:57:10 PM PDT by Skywise
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To: PROCON
“the U.S.A. as a whole should take our laws and look at the template of our laws and challenge the NRA.”

Australia should look at the 2nd Amendment and go f*** itself.

7 posted on 10/04/2017 12:57:41 PM PDT by libertylover (We EXPECT RESPECT for the flag and anthem.)
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To: PROCON

Look at the template of OUR CONSTITUTION and shut the F**K UP!..................>B^[


8 posted on 10/04/2017 12:57:48 PM PDT by Red Badger (Road Rage lasts 5 minutes. Road Rash lasts 5 months!.....................)
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To: PROCON
“But at the end of the day it’s going to be up to the United States legislators and lawmakers, and the United States public, to change the laws to ensure this type of incident doesn’t happen again,” she said.

Total ignorant crap.

He could have used a car or truck and gotten similar results.

Australian type gun confiscation here in the United States would be "counter-productive."

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9 posted on 10/04/2017 12:57:57 PM PDT by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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To: PROCON

Where was all the outcry for panel truck control after the incident in France????


10 posted on 10/04/2017 12:57:58 PM PDT by BobinIL
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To: BenLurkin
The article mentions Australia having to "fight" their own gun lobby when they passed gun confiscation.

Of course to liberals here, the NRA is EVIL!

11 posted on 10/04/2017 12:59:08 PM PDT by PROCON (#MAGA)
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To: PROCON

Australia confiscated guns and made it illegal to own them in most cases.
Their crime rate went up.

We will never tolerate a gun confiscation scheme.


12 posted on 10/04/2017 12:59:56 PM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here Of Citizen Parents - Know Islam, No Peace -No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: PROCON

Bureaucrats are the same worldwide.

They’re a sub-specie of human homo sapiens.


13 posted on 10/04/2017 1:00:05 PM PDT by x1stcav (We have the guns. Do we have the will?)
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To: PROCON

The “gun lobby” in the USA is every American.


14 posted on 10/04/2017 1:00:12 PM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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To: TLI

Yup. Completely stupid liberal foreigner. I’ll stick this retard in Compton or Chicago and let’s see how she defends herself with what? Harsh language? A peace sign?


15 posted on 10/04/2017 1:00:43 PM PDT by beergarden
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To: PROCON

What “gun law” would prevent a shooting such as at Las Vegas???


16 posted on 10/04/2017 1:01:48 PM PDT by JBW1949 (I'm really PC....PATRIOTICALLY CORRECT!!!!)
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To: PROCON

There is a huge difference between Australia (AUS) & USA.

For openers SIZE MATTERS.
There were may be 1 million guns in private hands in AUS.
USA has over 300 million guns in private hands.

On top of that, Australia has no illegals and drug smugglers walking across the borders. Australia is surrounded by hundreds of miles of deep ocean all around.
AUS illegal population is less than 0.1%. In USA it is 10% which is 100 times more.


17 posted on 10/04/2017 1:07:55 PM PDT by entropy12 (Republicans flirt with liberal media who will never vote for them! So dumb.)
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To: PROCON

The Australian minister is pro low level terrorism committed by the predators in his population.


18 posted on 10/04/2017 1:09:46 PM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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To: PROCON
Does anyone remember Anders Behring Breivik of Norway? Norway has the expected limitations on gunpowder and air-pressure weapons, restricting them to hunters and gun range enthusiasts. Mr Breivik complied with all the laws and massacred 69 people on an isolated summer camp in 2011. No one could oppose him as he had the only weapons in the area.

As many have already pointed out, the USofA is, for better or worse, awash with legal and illegal weapons of all types. To 'cure' this abundance would require actions reminiscent of the worst of the Soviet Union and Nazi Germany police states. Is this what WE want, no but that does not stop the LEFT from pushing a cure that I regard as worse than the apparent disease!

19 posted on 10/04/2017 1:12:08 PM PDT by SES1066 (Happiness is a depressed Washington, DC housing market!)
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To: PROCON

I was thinking about this this morning because a friend on Facebook shared an article about Australia and no mass shootings since Port Arthur. One thing that occurred to me is that despite having laws just as, or in some cases, stricter than Australia, countries in Europe have experienced mass shootings or killings.

Islamists and other crazy people have no use for the gun control laws there to be sure, but what might be also at work here is that Islamists are not likely to strike Australia with a mass shooting/killing as Europe and the United States are the more closer and convenient targets than Australia would be. They would still find ways to circumvent Australian laws if they wished to launch attacks like in Belgium or Paris in that country if they wished to do so.


20 posted on 10/04/2017 1:12:10 PM PDT by OttawaFreeper ("If I had to go to war again, I'd bring lacrosse players" Conn Smythe)
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