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1 posted on 10/10/2017 8:28:45 AM PDT by Starman417
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The guy clearly had video equipment set up. have they released any info about what was on it? How much? Did he have any video/audio in the room? During the shooting? Have any of these questions even been asked?


2 posted on 10/10/2017 8:33:26 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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A question arises when individuals who work at the Mandalay Bay assert that Paddock ordered room service on the 27th for two people. Who was that other person...

While I have not been following the latest conspiracy theory of the day, my understanding is they base the 2nd guest on nothing more than a room service receipt listing two people. But since when does room service care how many people are in the room? I have never had that question asked even once. He ordered two Pepsis & a water. That proves nothing. He may have simply wanted two Pepsis with his meal or to save one.

I have been to Las Vegas many times, living in Southern California and I can not understand how anyone, much less Paddock can carry so many weapons and ammunition into a room without being seen.

Easy. Hotel employees do not care what you are carrying into your room so long as it's not totally obvious & dangerous. They have better things to do than keep specific tabs on hundreds of guests, gamblers & attendees at trade shows & conferences. Has this guy really been to Vegas?

3 posted on 10/10/2017 8:38:24 AM PDT by gdani (Everyone is a snowflake these days)
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Seems no amount of answers stop such questions.

Check-in dates reported come from fragmentary evidence. It’s a matter of reporting, not hotel logs (which aren’t being officially released). _When_ he arrived is pretty irrelevant to the fact that he inflicted near 600 casualties.

Firing a bump-stock rifle for most of a 100-round magazine isn’t that hard. Doesn’t take long to figure out how to do it. This isn’t rocket surgery, it’s a few hours at the range and the money for practice ammo. When one gun malfunctioned, he just picked up the next of two dozen rifles.

Those “shooter on lower floor” videos have been debunked. There were flashing lights (fire alarms, entertainment strobes, whatever). What I’ve seen blinked after the last shots.

The exits were blocked because venues don’t want people sneaking in after the concert starts. Dumb, maybe illegal, but standard procedure.

People bringing lots of luggage into a hotel room isn’t bizarre. Conferences sometimes require lots of gear. Long stays may bring much luggage. None of the hotel’s business. And no, 23 guns plus ammo really don’t take up all that much space if compactly stored.

It’s stupid easy to do. Pay porter to bring luggage to room. Set up. Smash window. Grab gun, fire until empty/failure, repeat.

Lots of guns because he didn’t know how long he had nor what he’d need. Again, not hard to bring ‘em. When one fails, grab another.

Yes there will be a ballistic report on the suicide. Not our business to know yet. I’ve seen the photo, matches the claim (entry wound under chin, lots o blood emanating from top/back of skull).

Flashes were reported by witnesses, and recorded on better video cameras. Worse video cameras probably can’t pick up that brief image in such a well-lit (!) area. The rifles used typically come with flash suppressors.

“Overlapping gunfire” is characteristic of echos. There’s lots of big reflective surfaces in the area.

Fire near-full-auto into a large dense crowd, and you’ll (A) kill a lot of people, (B) injure a lot of people, (C) scare a lot of people enough that they’ll hurt themselves & each other in the process.

This.
Isn’t.
Hard.
To.
Understand.


6 posted on 10/10/2017 8:44:36 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (It's not "white privilege", it's "Puritan work ethic". Behavior begets consequences.)
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“With no experience in guns”

And his reference for this is ...


7 posted on 10/10/2017 8:48:01 AM PDT by TexasGator (Z)
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I look at two broken windows and immediately think "two shooters"

Can't seem to shake that idea.

8 posted on 10/10/2017 8:49:02 AM PDT by Zuben Elgenubi (NOPe to GOPe)
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My question is: Why don't we know anything about the hotel surveillance video? I can't believe they don't have cameras that monitor their hallways.

ML/NJ

10 posted on 10/10/2017 8:53:15 AM PDT by ml/nj
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11 posted on 10/10/2017 8:53:31 AM PDT by lacrew
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“There are pictures that clearly show rifle fire from a lower window. ”

There were only windows broken out on one floor from what I’ve read and from photos.


14 posted on 10/10/2017 8:58:08 AM PDT by JimSEA
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I read something close to this the other day, in effect saying "flabby older guy would not be able to pull this off, would lack the stamina", yet, not that many others are saying this.

"Paddock, an out of shape former accountant with no military training is not capable of pulling this off by himself. With no experience in guns, how could he have fired as rapidly and accurately as he did. As a military veteran and have experience with fully automatic weapons, they can be hard to control, jam easily and tend to overheat. Using an automatic weapon effectively takes extensive training and experience in the use of such weapons. Being a retired accountant senior citizen, I do not understand how Paddock had the skill or the stamina to fire for so long.The overheating is also a reason why suppressors (silences in Hillarys vernacular) are never used on such weapons. They have a tendency to melt and more quickly jam the gun."

16 posted on 10/10/2017 9:03:46 AM PDT by BeadCounter
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How would room service know the number of guests if they did not enter the room?


17 posted on 10/10/2017 9:04:32 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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Bump


18 posted on 10/10/2017 9:07:29 AM PDT by foreverfree
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Seven Incredible, Unanswered Questions from Bill Still:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2nQtl_Ar—I


20 posted on 10/10/2017 9:10:15 AM PDT by Slyfox (Are you tired of winning yet?)
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Skepticism abounds around the official story and for damn good reason. It’s a crock.


22 posted on 10/10/2017 9:12:13 AM PDT by Bullish (Whatever it takes to MAGA)
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“Paddock, an out of shape former accountant with no military training is not capable of pulling this off by himself. With no experience in guns, how could he have fired as rapidly and accurately as he did. As a military veteran and have experience with fully automatic weapons, they can be hard to control, jam easily and tend to overheat. Using an automatic weapon effectively takes extensive training and experience in the use of such weapons. Being a retired accountant senior citizen, I do not understand how Paddock had the skill or the stamina to fire for so long.The overheating is also a reason why suppressors (silences in Hillarys vernacular) are never used on such weapons. They have a tendency to melt and more quickly jam the gun.”

This is simply false. Paddock was firing a semi automatic weapon from an elevated position into a massive crowd (22,000) jammed into a small enclosed area. He didn’t need to aim anywhere other than the general direction of the crowd to get a massive body count. Especially firing .223 rounds from above the crowd, he was going to get fatal head shots and plenty of them, possibly even multiple fatal headshots with a single round. Also, being a “military veteran” he should know better. Paddock brought mulitple weapons into his room, firing 100 rounds from an AR-15 and then moving on to the next weapon, is not going to cause an AR to “overheat”, it may cause it to jam but then Paddock could simply move on to the next weapons system. Paddock could have easily pulled off the actual act of the shooting himself.


24 posted on 10/10/2017 9:14:27 AM PDT by TallahasseeConservative
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"There are pictures that clearly show rifle fire from a lower window."

Absolute nonsense. Did not happen. There were some on stage strobe lights that flashed with each gunshot. But no place to fire from at that level. Credibility goes to zero at this point.

38 posted on 10/10/2017 9:25:29 AM PDT by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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Scientific Analysis: There were multiple shooters
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43 posted on 10/10/2017 9:29:37 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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What about the ballistic data?

The barrel of a bump-fire rifle moves around a LOT when being used - and from that angle and distance, it’s hard to see how a single target gets hit three consecutive times - with either .223 or .308.

http://www.ktuu.com/content/news/Las-Vegas-victim-to-return-home-to-North-Pole-449511183.html


57 posted on 10/10/2017 9:47:32 AM PDT by DBG8489
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After the investigations and official explanations for Waco, TWA Flt 800, OKC Murrah bombing, Bin Laden's death and even the JFK assasination, I have my doubts that we'll learn much truth about what happened in LV.

In fact, the most fun I had last weekend was reading through this YUGE pile of conspiracy.

After all we, the people, have been fed year after year, I just love a good conspiracy, don't you?

62 posted on 10/10/2017 10:00:58 AM PDT by GBA (A = 432)
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“Questions about Las Vegas”
*****************************

Haven’t been there since ‘97, but Sam’s Town was my favorite,,,away from the strip and peaceful—another ST in Laughlin, too...even more peaceful there!

But that was b4 these days of fire and brimstone light!
Jimmy Swaggart had things figured pretty well after all
;)
*****
Never Forget To Laugh
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76 posted on 10/10/2017 10:22:41 AM PDT by gunnyg ("A Constitution changed from Freedom, can never be restored; Liberty, once lost, is lost forever...)
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WHAT HAPPENED TO THAT ISIS CLAIM ???
When ISIS made this claim wether or not that proof of connection to Paddock can be made. Questioning ISIS and their practices should be made.
The media coverage on this is truly bizarre. Here you have the “Muzzi” ISIS claiming involvement showing up everywhere in the UK press but gets buried here in the US..

Why wont they ? Perhaps it’s because according to their codex known as Sharia the actions taken by Paddock has been sanctioned by Almighty God.

Because most political perverts don’t believe in such a thing as God they can’t concieve of followers of Islam believing in what they are doing is actually serving God. It must be something else. So the progressive perverts running the show avoid bringing that up and blame guns.

Unfortuantely it’s not just these perverted frauds known as democrats that refuse to face the justification that this group relies on to commit these atrocitys. It also includes religious leaders like Pope Francis.

By not doing so aloows it to continue.


79 posted on 10/10/2017 10:33:05 AM PDT by mosesdapoet (Mosesdapoet aka L.J.Keslin)
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