Posted on 02/21/2018 7:55:31 PM PST by TBP
Remember the old Herblock cartoon where the handgun is hanged instead of the criminal?
I don’t like it, but I think it is like Trump’s DACA proposal. Nice window dressing, but it will never come to pass.
And, No.1 is a non-starter as written. There are a lot of entry .22 rifles that are semi-auto. The Ruger 10/22 for instance.
On number 2 and 3, Constitutionally, I think both would pass. You’ve had the background check in place, and most everyone has no problem with the functionality. Personally, if you applied 2 and 3 to the past 300 mass shootings...I don’t think they would have mattered much. In the case of Texas former Army guy where he should have been on a list to prevent him buying a gun....that’s the fault of Army not placing him on the list. In this case, regulations already exist....they just needed to be exercised.
But then we come to the age idea. If you decide that people can’t be mature at 18 to buy a guy...where exactly does this idea go? For example....could you borrow dad’s gun and go hunting? Could you borrow your brother’s gun and go hunting? If you are that untrustworthy, why should I allow you to buy alcohol or cigarettes? Why should I allow you to vote? Why should the financial community allow you credit cards? This opens up a broader question.
But here’s this odd thing, from the past 1,000 mass shootings (4 or more)...how many were committed with juveniles, 18 or younger, with a gun? I suspect when you get to this number....it’ll be less than a hundred.
In the end, these three ideas will have little to no effect, and it might even open up the whole discussion of maturity on voting. I personally wouldn’t have a problem in making the age of maturity across the whole nation...21.
He is the Dealmeister. Some deals are thrown out only as decoys - never meant to be accepted but only to make himself look fair and reasonable.
2016 there were 10,497 alcohol related vehicular fatalities. Average of 28/day, but no outcry to ban vehicles. Driving is merely a privilege not a right.
Background checks for private sales.
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Deal breaker.
De facto registration over time.
Not one of those changes would have prevented any of the shootings. Not one. It will only make it harder on law abiding citizens.
I don’t think Trump would sign something the NRA was adamantly against. The NRA signaled it really didn’t care about bump stocks. Probably because one can be made with a rubble band or just looping a thump into a belt loop. It’s silly. Plus not that many hunters, plinkers, or target shooters even bother with them.
If “shall not be infringed” meant anything, there would be no gun control laws on the books.
There are how many on the books?
I’ve seen estimates of 300 to 20,000.
Dumb. Criminals rare,y buy their guns, duh.
It emotions, not statistics or facts.
No new laws have been passed....
Go get your tin foil. You need it
The same suspicions apply to those in what is supposed to be a pro-Constitutional forum that tout these “deals” as MAGA.
Any further regulations involving background checks and competence should be implemented locally and temporarily (for the duration of drug abuse, certain risky prescriptions, etc.). There’s no sense in continuing to deny the rights of those who get cleaned up and lucid, because it would only drive the kooks into hiding their problems more.
There will be those who eventually test clean for a few months or a year and become societal assets again. Some federal remedies tend to be rather to reverse for individuals and politically turn too many of them against the rights of their neighbors. Needs to be some incentive where practical for those who want to get off of the drugs and get their heads screwed on right again.
Those who are psychopathic or spoiled should also be dealt with locally. Notice the demographics of the locales of mass murderers so far (neighborhoods of the radical left).
“In the case of Texas former Army guy where he should have been on a list to prevent him buying a gun.”
A small niggle here for accuracy - the guy was discharged from the Air Force which failed to file the proper report that would have barred his purchase. Otherwise - great comment!!
OK 3 regulations !
Does that mean he’s going to drop 20 regulations on firearms for each of these he enacts ?
Glad Ivanka will be out of the country for awhile. He doesnt need her input in this.
I will not comply. Millions of us won’t
What will you people do then?
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