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Democratic insiders: Bernie could win the nomination
Pollutico ^ | 12/26/2019 05:04 AM EST | By HOLLY OTTERBEIN and DAVID SIDERS

Posted on 12/26/2019 7:24:21 AM PST by Red Badger

His resiliency in the primary has caught the attention of the party establishment.

Suddenly, Bernie Sanders’ presidential campaign is being taken seriously.

For months the Vermont senator was written off by Democratic Party insiders as a candidate with a committed but ultimately narrow base who was too far left to win the primary. Elizabeth Warren had skyrocketed in the polls and seemed to be leaving him behind in the race to be progressive voters’ standard-bearer in 2020.

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But in the past few weeks, something has changed. In private conversations and on social media, Democratic officials, political operatives and pundits are reconsidering Sanders’ chances.

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“It may have been inevitable that eventually you would have two candidates representing each side of the ideological divide in the party. A lot of smart people I’ve talked to lately think there’s a very good chance those two end up being Biden and Sanders,” said David Brock, a longtime Hillary Clinton ally who founded a pro-Clinton super PAC in the 2016 campaign. “They’ve both proven to be very resilient.”

Democratic insiders said that they are rethinking Sanders’ bid for a few reasons: First, Warren has recently fallen in national and early-state surveys. Another factor, they said, is that he has withstood the ups and downs of the primary, including his own heart attack. At the same time, other candidates with once-high expectations, such as Kamala Harris, Cory Booker and Beto O’Rourke, have dropped out or languished in single digits in the polls.

“I believe people should take him very seriously. He has a very good shot of winning Iowa, a very good shot of winning New Hampshire, and other than Joe Biden, the best shot of winning Nevada,” said Dan Pfeiffer, who served as a adviser to former President Barack Obama. “He could build a real head of steam heading into South Carolina and Super Tuesday.”

The durability of Sanders’ candidacy has come as a surprise even in some states where he performed strongly in 2020, and where he is attempting to improve his standing ahead of the 2020 election.

California state Sen. Scott Wiener, who defeated a Sanders-backed Democrat for his seat in the liberal-heavy San Francisco area in 2016, said that Sanders has been “more resilient than I anticipated.”

“But in retrospect,” he added, “he has a very, very loyal following, and people have really stuck with him.”

Sanders is in second place in national polls, nearly 9 percentage points behind Joe Biden, according to the most recent RealClearPolitics average. He is second in Iowa and first in New Hampshire. The latest CNN poll found that he has the highest net favorability rating of any Democratic presidential candidate.

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While Sanders’ supporters complain relentlessly that he has received less attention from the media than other candidates, he has also avoided sustained criticism that some of his rivals have suffered. That could be helping him, especially compared with Warren, who has recently come under fire from the left and center for her health care plan.

“If you really think about it, Bernie hasn’t been hit a lot with anything. It’s not like he’s getting hit by other campaigns,” said Michael Ceraso, a former New Hampshire director for Pete Buttigieg’s campaign who worked for Sanders in 2016.

“You sort of take for granted that he, like Biden, are institutional figures for very different reasons,” Ceraso said. “Early in the campaign, Bernie’s people said, ‘Look, this guy in these early states has a nice hold, and there’s a percentage of supporters, a quarter of the electorate will potentially go for him.” He added, “It waned a little bit because people were looking at other options … and now they’re saying, ‘Wait a minute, this guy has been the most consistent of anyone.”

At the beginning of the year — another high point for Sanders’ campaign, before Warren surged — some establishment Democrats talked about how to stop his momentum. Brock, who has a close relationship with many Democratic donors, said he has not heard anything like that being revived in recent weeks: “That doesn’t mean it won’t happen. This is more of an analysis in the political world than in the donor world.”

Many moderate Democrats still dismiss Sanders’ candidacy. They believe his so-called ceiling remains intact, and that Warren will depress any room for growth he might otherwise have.

“He can’t win the nomination,” said Matt Bennet, co-founder of the center-left group Third Way, adding that Sanders’ uptick is simply him “bouncing around between his ceiling and his floor a little bit more than people had thought he would.”

On the other hand, he acknowledged his staying power. “Not until the very end will people say to Bernie Sanders, ‘When are you dropping out?’”

A series of TV segments around last week’s Democratic debate illustrate the shift in how Sanders is being perceived. “We never talk about Bernie Sanders. He is actually doing pretty well in this polling,” former senior Obama adviser David Axelrod said on CNN after the event. “He’s actually picked up. And the fact is Bernie Sanders is as consistent as consistent can be.”

The same day on MSNBC, national political correspondent Steve Kornacki said, “Democratic voters like him, and if he starts winning, there could be a bandwagon effect.” GOP pollster Frank Luntz, who conducted a California focus group that found most participants thought Sanders had won the debate, said on CNBC, “I think you’re going to see continued movement. Sanders has been gaining in California over the past two months.”

Larry Cohen, chairman of the pro-Sanders group Our Revolution, said Warren’s candidacy is not a problem for Sanders if both of them can — together — amass a plurality of delegates heading into the convention.

“The math is that if you think of the voters for Warren and the voters for Sanders as two circles, yes, there is overlap, [but] most of the circles are separate,” Cohen said. “I think between them, we can get to a majority.”

If Sanders’ candidacy continues to be taken seriously, he will eventually be subjected to the scrutiny that Warren and Biden have faced for prolonged stretches. That includes an examination of his electability. “That conversation has never worked well for anyone,” said Pfeiffer. MOST READ Bernie Sanders

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Former California Gov. Gray Davis stopped short of saying firm support for Medicare for All would be an impediment for Democrats in the primary, but suggested the risk for the nominee is significant.

“Californians and Americans in general like options — not mandates,” he said.

Faiz Shakir, Sanders’ campaign manager, said political insiders and pundits are rethinking his chances “not out of the goodness of their heart,” but because “it is harder and harder to ignore him when he’s rising in every average that you see.” And he welcomes a conversation about Sanders’ electability, he said.

“We want that,” he said. “I’d love to be able to argue why he stands a better chance to beat Donald Trump than Joe Biden.”


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To: Lysandru

Forget about it, Jake. They’re Democrats.....................


21 posted on 12/26/2019 7:40:42 AM PST by Red Badger (Against stupidity the gods themselves contend in vain.......... ..)
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To: Red Badger

South Florida dream team. Lol.


22 posted on 12/26/2019 7:41:42 AM PST by angmo
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To: angmo
He probably wouldn’t last the campaign. So, yeah.

Bernie for the loss.

BTW, where did you get your screen name? Looks like something from Singapore.

23 posted on 12/26/2019 7:41:59 AM PST by wai-ming
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To: Red Badger

Bernie’s real problem is the 700+ superdelegates. Those Democrat party insiders can vote at the 2020 convention, starting with the second ballot. Those guys might go for Biden or Hillary or Michelle. But I can’t see them voting for Bernie.

So either Bernie somehow wins a majority of the delegates before the convention even starts, or he’s toast.


24 posted on 12/26/2019 7:44:14 AM PST by Leaning Right (I have already previewed or do not wish to preview this composition.)
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To: Red Badger

Well, bring him on!!

Now that we have an open Primary state here, who would you like me to vote for on the Dem side? In other words, who is most beatable?


25 posted on 12/26/2019 7:45:03 AM PST by cookcounty (Susan Rice: G Gordon Liddy times 10.)
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To: wai-ming

Literally means “red-head” in Mandarin. Derogatory name for gweilos in Sing. Good catch. Kind of a long story.


26 posted on 12/26/2019 7:46:01 AM PST by angmo
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To: Red Badger

Has Sanders changed his registration from Independent to Democrat? He is really a full blown communist. I hope he gets the D nomination. Then we would have a real choice, an open borders commie fed gov with Sanders or a mostly Capitalist America first fed gov with Trump.


27 posted on 12/26/2019 7:46:38 AM PST by jpsb
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To: dead

‘They just keep looking at one of their losers, like say, Biden, and concluding that he just cannot win the general election in any realistic scenario’

you are aware, I’m sure, that the consensus prediction on 270towin has the dem candidate with 248 ev’s, with most of the swing states except MI up for grabs...that says a lot of things, but one of them ain’t ‘no realistic scenario...’


28 posted on 12/26/2019 7:47:10 AM PST by IrishBrigade
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To: dead

Hilliary will ride in on her white hearse to save them from Orange Man......................


29 posted on 12/26/2019 7:47:54 AM PST by Red Badger (Against stupidity the gods themselves contend in vain.......... ..)
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To: angmo

Outstanding, the general election would be a historic blowout.


30 posted on 12/26/2019 7:49:27 AM PST by glorgau
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To: Red Badger

What would you expect from a Communist Party?


31 posted on 12/26/2019 7:50:39 AM PST by chris37 (Where's Hunter?)
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To: Red Badger

They may...buy him another house


32 posted on 12/26/2019 7:51:30 AM PST by Jolla
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To: Red Badger
Biden is going to stumble, if he hasn't been stumbling all along. So the question is whether Warren will stumble before Sanders, and whether Sanders can avoid stumbling himself.

If Biden fails, where do the moderates (or wets or squishies or whatever you want to call them) go? Klobuchar? Buttigieg? I don't see either one of them packing much of a punch with the rank and file.

Bernie's problem is that he's too old and too much yesterday's news. Probably Liz will stay on her feet and Joe will be propped up long enough that Bernie doesn't get the nomination.

33 posted on 12/26/2019 7:51:32 AM PST by x
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To: Howie66

.......bol........good one.......


34 posted on 12/26/2019 7:51:54 AM PST by Liz (Our side has 8 trillion bullets; the other side doesn't know which bathroom to use.)
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To: Red Badger

They cuckolded him last time - gonna make him the sacrifice this time....


35 posted on 12/26/2019 7:52:11 AM PST by trebb (Don't howl about illegal leeches, or Trump in general, while not donating to FR - it's hypocritical.)
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To: x

Warren is already stumbling, backtracking on her free everything campaign..............


36 posted on 12/26/2019 7:54:46 AM PST by Red Badger (Against stupidity the gods themselves contend in vain.......... ..)
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To: Red Badger

IMHO the nominee is still a “player to be named later”, by the party bosses, the super delegates. The convention itself will be a large cluster eff...!


37 posted on 12/26/2019 7:57:58 AM PST by Don Corleone (The truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth)
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To: Red Badger

Lie-a-watha is falling in the polls.....right along time that Hussein has decided to help her campaign.....

How about them apples?


38 posted on 12/26/2019 7:59:20 AM PST by Howie66 ("...Against All Enemies, Foreign and Democrat..... & ERIC CIARAMELLA")
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To: IrishBrigade
Yeah, I was being hyperbolic. I thought that was obvious. But, to win back the presidency, the Democratic Party most needs to increase black and union turnout in states like Ohio, Michigan, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, etc.

Bernie's not going to do that. Buttigieg is not going to do that. Warren is not going to do that. Biden might, but he's added senility to his stupidity and evidence of his corruption grows daily, so they have to look back to Bernie... and the relook at their alternatives begins again with no realistic scenario for victory, to overstate the case.

39 posted on 12/26/2019 8:00:36 AM PST by dead (Trump puts crazy glue on their grenades and they never know it until after they pull the pin.)
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To: Don Corleone

IF it becomes a CF, i.e. Brokered Convention, Hilliary gets the nomination................


40 posted on 12/26/2019 8:01:05 AM PST by Red Badger (Against stupidity the gods themselves contend in vain.......... ..)
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