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"Hitler remained to the end a socialist"; the Führer "was totally irreligious and" wanted to hang the Pope in St Peter's Square
No Pasaran ^ | 25 Nov 2023 | Anonymous

Posted on 04/20/2024 5:11:17 PM PDT by Rummyfan

There is much to learn from Paul Johnson's history of the 20th century, not least the appalling truth about the "Republican" camp during the Spanish Civil War; some unpalatable facts about FDR and his "vanity … compounded by an astonishing naivety"; and, most importantly, the many ways in which the autocrats of the left (Lenin, Stalin, Mao, etc…) and of the right (Hitler, Mussolini, Pétain, etc…) inspired, complemented, and even conspired with, one another.

Much of what we have learned turns out to be myths. What explains the rise of rightist fascism, and how does it differ from leftist communism? According to Paul Johnson, there isn't much difference at all, and the reason for its rise in Europe was the genuine shock, by the general population as well as by the Left itself, over the disastrous results of Lenin's communist revolution in Russia, as much on an economic level as on a humane level. To counter the ruin and the atrocities of international socialism, the Left in Europe invented and turned to national socialism. (Vielen Dank für den Instalink, Kamarad Gail Heriot…)

Also fascinating is the thread that runs through the book, by which the expansion of the State in general and the appearance of "gangster statesmen" in particular took place in the wake of the disappearance of religion and moral absolutes in public life....

(Excerpt) Read more at no-pasaran.blogspot.com ...


TOPICS: Books/Literature; History; Miscellaneous; Politics
KEYWORDS: 20thcenturyhistory; books; communism; communistrevolution; himmler; jimknows; nationalsocialism; nondonorfr; pauljohnson; socialism; ukraine
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Today is Hitler's birthday, and believe it or not some still celebrate it in Germany and Austria.

I'm currently reading this; I highly recommend it.

1 posted on 04/20/2024 5:11:17 PM PDT by Rummyfan
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Both Hitler and Himmler had a soft spot for Islam. Hitler several times fantasized that, if the Saracens had not been stopped at the Battle of Tours, Islam would have spread through the European continent—and that would have been a good thing, since “Jewish Christianity” wouldn’t have gone on to poison Europe. Christianity doted on weakness and suffering, while Islam extolled strength, Hitler believed. Himmler in a January 1944 speech called Islam “a practical and attractive religion for soldiers,” with its promise of paradise and beautiful women for brave martyrs after their death. “This is the kind of language a soldier understands,” Himmler gushed.

https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/arts-letters/articles/nazi-romance-with-islam


2 posted on 04/20/2024 5:13:00 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Rummyfan

Religion was only a vehicle of convenience for him. His preferred religion, because of its capacity for violence, was Islam.


3 posted on 04/20/2024 5:13:01 PM PDT by Jonty30 (He hunted a mammoth me, just .because I said I was hungry. He is such a good friend. )
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To: Rummyfan

Excellent book. Anything by Paul Johnson is well worth the time.


4 posted on 04/20/2024 5:13:32 PM PDT by Noumenon (You're not voting your way out of this. KTF)
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To: Rummyfan
the appearance of "gangster statesmen" in particular took place in the wake of the disappearance of religion and moral absolutes in public life.

And here we are.

5 posted on 04/20/2024 5:14:30 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (It's not "Quiet Quitting" -- it's "Going Galt".)
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To: Rummyfan

Bookmark


6 posted on 04/20/2024 5:20:02 PM PDT by Southside_Chicago_Republican (God save the United States!)
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To: dfwgator

Bergoglio has his own soft spot for Islam. Hitler would never hang him if he were still around.


7 posted on 04/20/2024 5:27:14 PM PDT by FamiliarFace (I got my own way of livin' But everything gets done With a southern accent Where I come from. TPetty)
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To: Rummyfan

He committed “revolutionary suicide” too, just like that Bernie Sanders supporter outside the NYC courthouse.


8 posted on 04/20/2024 5:27:41 PM PDT by Steely Tom ([Voter Fraud] == [Civil War])
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He committed “revolutionary suicide” too, just like that Bernie Sanders supporter outside the NYC courthouse.

And Jim Jones.

9 posted on 04/20/2024 5:28:14 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: ClearCase_guy

There is immense similarity. The decadence of the 20’s could easily be confused as today.

One thing not similar is it in part was the result of WWI.

It left a vacuum that was sought after by communists and fascists.


10 posted on 04/20/2024 5:32:34 PM PDT by Freest Republican (This space for rent)
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To: Rummyfan

Another bit of useful reading on how Fascism evolved as a reaction to Bolshevism:

https://ridl.io/ivan-ilyin-a-fashionable-fascist/

This character is much revered by Putin, btw.

Both disciplines demand absolute authoritarian forms of human organization.


11 posted on 04/20/2024 5:37:24 PM PDT by Chad C. Mulligan
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That Hitler guy...what a jerk


12 posted on 04/20/2024 5:46:24 PM PDT by escapefromboston (Peace, commerce and honest friendship with all nations, entangling alliances with none.)
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“You know, with Hitler, the more I learn about that guy, the more I don’t care for him.”
- Norm Macdonald


13 posted on 04/20/2024 5:58:12 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (It's not "Quiet Quitting" -- it's "Going Galt".)
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Yes it’s excellent.

It’s too bad Paull Johnson’s history books weren’t made into text books and taught in schools.


14 posted on 04/20/2024 5:59:37 PM PDT by chickenlips (Neuter your politicians)
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I recently finished “Hitler’s First Hundred Days: When Germans Embraced the Third Reich” by Peter Fritzsche. I’m currently reading “The Bunker: The History of the Reich Chancellery Group by James P. O’Donnell.


15 posted on 04/20/2024 6:18:33 PM PDT by mass55th (“Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway.” ― John Wayne)
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To: Jonty30

Hitler planned to Nazify Catholicism.


16 posted on 04/20/2024 6:19:16 PM PDT by mass55th (“Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway.” ― John Wayne)
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To: escapefromboston

But he could paint an entire apartment in one afternoon...TWO COATS!


17 posted on 04/20/2024 6:19:38 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: mass55th

He could have just had his Ustashe pals in Croatia run the Catholic Church.


18 posted on 04/20/2024 6:20:27 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Rummyfan

hitler was NOT on the left! He was a socialist on the left!!!

stupid lefties


19 posted on 04/20/2024 6:20:50 PM PDT by TexasFreeper2009
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Yes, Hitler was a left wing socialist (Nazi stands for National Socialist after all). He was not right wing. Today's national socialists go by name of Black Lives Matter. Same basic ideology; just seeking social justice for a different national group.
20 posted on 04/20/2024 6:27:24 PM PDT by Petrosius
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