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Dating game becoming more like a chore
Winston-Salem Journal ^ | Thursday, January 8, 2004 | Kate Zernike

Posted on 01/08/2004 8:37:53 AM PST by Mr. Jeeves

By her own admission, Sara Cambridge was "totally cruising."

She spent hours trolling online dating sites, sending e-mail messages to potential mates and creating "a real connection," which would invariably sour into deep disappointment within the first five minutes of an actual date. At which point she would return to the sites, send more e-mail, make another connection and suffer another snap disappointment.

Finally, there was the left-leaning writer, who took her to a Japanese tea garden and, like so many of the others, seemed so perfect from his resume.

"In the e-mails, he would say, 'Tell me a story,' which I thought was kind of charming," said Cambridge, 38, a graphic designer in San Francisco. "When we got together it was, 'Tell me stories, tell me stories, tell me stories.' I felt like I was auditioning for a play."

That was it.

"I realized I could be starting my own business in the time I was spending looking at these ads and crafting these responses," she said. So instead of going back online, she began taking a class in small-business administration and designing funky planters.

Cambridge's tale is one small act of resistance against what might be called the Dating-Industrial Complex, a mighty fortress increasingly hard to ignore. To Match.com and Nerve.com, add DreamMates, The Right Stuff, eHarmony and eCrush (neither to be confused with Etrade, though the general concept is the same). TurboDate, HurryDate, 8minuteDating - or It's Just Lunch.

Reality television shows - The Bachelorette, Average Joe - have fed the impression that finding the right mate is as simple as being presented with a room of 10 people and picking one. Bookstores bulge: Surrendered Single, Find a Husband After 35 Using What I Learned at Harvard Business School, Make Every Girl Want You. That is just a sampling from the last year; the next two months will bring one manual promising to lure the love of your life in seven weeks, another in a sleeker six.

"There's a fetishization of coupling," said Bella DePaulo, a visiting professor of psychology at the University of California at Santa Barbara, who studies perceptions of singles. "It's made the pressure that's always been there more intense."

Yet like Cambridge, longtime combatants in the dating wars, psychologists and those who study the lives of singles talk about increasing dating fatigue. They say that more and more people are taking dating sabbaticals or declaring they will let romance happen by chance, not commerce. Once-obsessive online daters are logging off, clients of speed-dating services - which offer dozens of encounters in a roomful of strangers - are slowing down. A book due out this month, Quirkyalone, offers "a manifesto for uncompromising romantics" - those not opposed to romance but against the compulsory dating encouraged by the barrage of books, Web sites and matchmaking services.

Pottery Barn and Williams-Sonoma report that singles are signing up for housewarming and birthday registries, deciding they do not have to wait for a wedding to request the pastamaker and flatware. Smaller stores report single women registering for china patterns and crystal, without ring, proposal or mate.

"I have no doubt that there is a great, committed relationship out there for me," Cambridge said. "I don't identify at all with people who think, 'I'll never find another person.' I just think the best thing to do is pursue my goals, and whatever unfolds will be a new story."

Barbara Dafoe Whitehead, the co-director of the National Marriage Project, who relied on a national survey as well as in-depth interviews and dating histories of 60 women for her 2002 book Why There Are No Good Men Left: The Romantic Plight of the New Single Woman, said this hard-won wisdom is increasingly common. "People are making some kind of private agreement with themselves that they're not going to do this in a panicky, driven way that implicitly buys into the notion that if it doesn't happen to you, you'll be miserable," she said.

The discontent, Whitehead said, is not limited to women. Marc Johnson, 33, describes his late 20s and early 30s as a cycle between looking for dates, planning dates, going on dates or deconstructing dates with friends.

It all began to seem a bit small last year when he returned to New York from a trip to Vietnam, and was greeted by friends hassling him about when he was going to date various women.

"When you're seeing the world and civilizations that are thousands of years old - it seemed so petty to focus on 'meeting the right match,"' he said, his voice mocking the phrase. "You get a bit older, you go through this a couple of times, you start to think that life is short."

Like others, Johnson now feels that you can't hurry love. "It's not a backlash or resenting the whole dating thing," he said. "It's just, you've gotten over it, it's no longer of the utmost importance to go on a set number of dates or be on dates or to meet some specific person. By taking off that pressure you allow yourself to just go through life, enabled to meet people."

Kara Herold, 34, who lives in San Francisco, grew increasingly alarmed as friends succumbed to the pressure to find a mate, buying - and buying into - the endless supply of love-help books.

"In college when I was 20 it was dieting, now it's men and relationships," she said. "I was in a panic, but part of me thought, 'This is crazy, why are we concerned about this?"'

Herold is turning her disgust into a documentary, Bachelor, 34, which captures her mother's urging her toward a relationship ("He's Catholic and Republican, but it's nothing you can't change") and her online experiences.

Sasha Cagen, the author of Quirkyalone, wrote her book after being, as she said, "thoroughly messed up by The Rules," the best-seller that advised women to play the old-fashioned game of hard-to-get.

"The whole idea that you shouldn't ask someone out, that you're putting yourself out there to be rejected, that's just stupid," she said. "It just reinforces this warped, passive vision of what it means to be a woman."

Cagen, 29, is not against setups or dating. She is emphatically not against sex. Rather, she writes, she is "anti dull relationship."

She reminds her followers of the power of not yearning for a relationship. "If you are in a relationship to feel normal," she writes, "get out."

Still, the dating industry steamrolls forward, particularly in online services, which claim a huge jump in membership in the last two years.

Although the services love to talk about the success stories, they also admit, more quietly, to the dropouts. Matchmaker.com says its internal surveys show that the No. 1 reason people leave is that they do not find the right person. Just below that is that they have met someone, and men are twice as likely as women to say they met that companion offline, not on. (Women who drop out after meeting someone are twice as likely to cite an online connection.)

Ethan Watters, the author of Urban Tribes, which began with his own exploration of why he had remained single into his 30s, said that as people delay marriage, they begin to rely more on friends and see relationships less as the missing piece that will complete their lives. "They realize that a good love affair has as the basis a really good friendship," he said.


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To: vetvetdoug
What you need to do is lead them on slowly, until they are so far gone all your "negatives" can't push them out.

Worked for me.
181 posted on 01/08/2004 4:48:05 PM PST by buwaya
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To: half_nelson
"Free Republic should have a dating service... ;-)"

But when you date a girl, and you decide to not call her back like you promised, are you really going to want to see her around the forum later? :)
182 posted on 01/08/2004 4:49:10 PM PST by honeygrl (If I had a dollar for every time I had 60 cents, I would be in Canada.)
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To: Lazamataz
(touch)

(die)

*snicker*

183 posted on 01/08/2004 4:49:11 PM PST by Marie (Laz, you touch my tag and die.)
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To: Xenalyte
Of course, negotiations are up to the participants. I'd merely preside benevolently.

After reading some of the thread, I think you'd need to be asking about accents, too.

184 posted on 01/08/2004 4:49:33 PM PST by SCalGal
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To: warchild9
Ah, here is part of the problem.

Be a gentleman at all times. The bystanders will note the fact.
185 posted on 01/08/2004 4:49:47 PM PST by buwaya
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To: Lazamataz
Sounds like my sex life.

You are toooooo funny. See my above post: Looks aren't everything.

186 posted on 01/08/2004 4:50:42 PM PST by Marie (Laz, you touch my tag and die.)
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To: LisaMalia; Lazamataz
"But I'm for real."

Don't buy it Lisa! Laz is a figment of your imagination!
187 posted on 01/08/2004 4:50:50 PM PST by honeygrl (If I had a dollar for every time I had 60 cents, I would be in Canada.)
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To: sweetliberty
Has it occured to you that you are insulting half the people on this forum, who are, by and large, quality women?

I thought I was taking aim at those women in our society who are not, by and large, quality women!

188 posted on 01/08/2004 4:51:22 PM PST by _Jim ( <--- Ann Coulter speaks on gutless Liberals (RealAudio files))
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To: Lazamataz
"Back me up ovah heah, hah? I got a Tony Soprano build dese days, right?"

I'll back you up when I get a recent photo. :) Deal? I showed you mine, now you show me yours... oh wait, wrong forum...
189 posted on 01/08/2004 4:51:56 PM PST by honeygrl (If I had a dollar for every time I had 60 cents, I would be in Canada.)
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To: Marie
Amen, I have always said that the best women get snatched up in their high school and college years.
190 posted on 01/08/2004 4:52:14 PM PST by IndependentSouthernDemocrat (RON PAUL 2008)
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To: Rytwyng; DragonflyX
I met my hubby in a chatroom. The net is a great place to meet people!
191 posted on 01/08/2004 4:58:20 PM PST by honeygrl (If I had a dollar for every time I had 60 cents, I would be in Canada.)
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To: Lazamataz
"But I gotta fight chicks off with a stick."

You meant to say.. "But I have to fight off chicks who have sticks." :-p


(i'm having fun with this topic tonight)
192 posted on 01/08/2004 5:02:25 PM PST by honeygrl (If I had a dollar for every time I had 60 cents, I would be in Canada.)
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To: spodefly
That is one chick that I wouldn't spend 5 minutes with. She is a "changer" ... one of the types that lures you in initially by pretending to be something you would like, then once you are hooked, slowly manipulates you into becoming more what she had in mind originally. Those relationships have a 5 or 6 month shelf-life, max. Much less, if you are lucky.

What is it with women who want a man to change? Honestly, I don't get it.

193 posted on 01/08/2004 5:06:38 PM PST by SCalGal
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To: HitmanNY
In fact, sweats instead of a housedress and a house full of sick kids's isn't exactly my dream,...

It's building memories, and it's very important. Treasure every moment, even these - life is short.

194 posted on 01/08/2004 5:12:23 PM PST by SCalGal
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To: Tax-chick
I'm still short, but it hasn't been too much of a problem.

I've found that if you talk to the grocery store manager, they'll re-arrainge the shelves.

195 posted on 01/08/2004 5:13:48 PM PST by SCalGal
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To: SCalGal
What is it with women who want a man to change? Honestly, I don't get it.

I guess they've been cultivating a male archetype since they got their first Ken doll, and if they can't make a man match the model their lives will be simply ruined.

196 posted on 01/08/2004 5:14:53 PM PST by Mr. Jeeves
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To: _Jim
Okay....it just seemed like there have been some pretty sweeping general statements made. Most decent women have been screwed over by not so decent men too. Men don't have the edge on it. The problem is that our entire society has been steeped in liberal muck for so long that it's pretty tough for anybody to be unaffected, but it is unfair and self-defeating to judge every woman (or every man, as the case may be), by the ones who hurt us.
197 posted on 01/08/2004 5:16:48 PM PST by sweetliberty (Even the smallest person can change the course of the future. - (LOTR))
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To: Mr. Jeeves
I just want a man who will protect me...
198 posted on 01/08/2004 5:20:54 PM PST by LisaMalia (Buckeye Fan since birth!!)
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To: Mr. Jeeves
I guess they've been cultivating a male archetype since they got their first Ken doll, and if they can't make a man match the model their lives will be simply ruined.

Maybe that's what's different. I never had barbie and ken. I had barbie and guns.

199 posted on 01/08/2004 5:22:04 PM PST by SCalGal
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To: SauronOfMordor
Well, I found mine was a true diamond in the rough. He needed quite a bit of love, support, and a strong dose of good cooking.

He doesn't want to change me, but I want to change for the better for him, and he supports me growing into a better wife.

7 years later, married life is still good.

200 posted on 01/08/2004 5:30:44 PM PST by Maigrey (Tagline Imported and assembled in 7th dimensional wealthy country)
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