Posted on 09/30/2004 10:40:34 PM PDT by A Navy Vet
"finesse kept clinton in office for 8 years".....no......
women and ross perot got him elected twice....
Not at all. What kept Clinton in office was "I feel your pain." In short, his connection to the folks. Kerry doesn't have that. He has the polish, but not the connection. Gore had the polish, too -- but also not the connection. Some of the folks trusted Clinton -- and Clinton took a lot of what were essentially Republican positions to help them out. There is not a single indication in any poll that Kerry enjoys that trust or ever has and he's inarguably the most liberal candidate in modern times. Clinton was a dog, but he was a consistent dog. Not so Kerry. Plus, Clinton pulled Reagan Democrats in the South. Kerry isn't even making a blip there and nothing that he said tonight will change that. Your cause-effect analysis is faulty.
Mighty nice of you :')
And, as of yet, Ross isn't running and women are moving towards Bush.
I agree, but his points were gobbledygook that will not stand the light of day. Conversely, Bush didn't say anything stupid that will be used against him at a later date.
I worry more about JK's party trying to replace him.
Out of all the people on FR, your political analysis has always made the most since. I hope so, too. I just believe his handlers should give him some room.
Which is exactly what wins the debate in the days following the actual event. Check history. 2000 certainly bore this out.
BTW, that's what is called "being on message," so essential to modern campaigns that get played out in the media.
Precisely. And boring as heck, to boot.
I agree. Early reports say Kerry won on "style," Bush on content. Well, this is a post-9/11 world...style doesn't cut it anymore.
Relax brother. Bush isn't known for the philosophical depth of his answers. This is nothing new, yet he still leads in the polls. I don't see any change occurring.
Absolutley pitiful excuse. The man (President) has knowledge that his opponent has NO clue about. There are ways to phrase such intel without jeapordizing national security. President Bush keeps talking in generalitis...it's time for some specifics to count Kerry's B.S.
Some good points.
Even if you are rich enough to be spray painted orange one day and recolored the next.
Albeit I'm not a koolaid drinking bushbot I think GW did well by letting Kerry rant on ommissional truths and in the split screen Kerry came off as the wise ass as he scribbled and dribbled but never scored a point. Bush had my vote going into this debate and will have it after the next two debates. Kerry gained some implied confidence that will come back to bite him as he can't handle and hold the integrity he so needs to appear presidential. He's just a pompass poodle pandering polidiot and I think the nation saw thru his self imposed validity.
The election is GW's to lose, but I think he's got the win sewed up but good !.......Stay safe !
We're on the same page as usual. My problem is the undecided voters who are impressed with the "smoothies". Geeze, clinton talked about his underwear on MTV and all was good. I have lost so much faith in the American populace to look past sound bites. Please, a huge part of the American TV audience think these "reality" shows are truly REAL!
We are a nation of naive idiots who will buy into anything that is slickly produced, wheather TV, movies, music, or even politics.
The point being, sound bites in politics with the right tone and visual mannerisms sells. Forget substance...it's all about sales. Bush does not sell as well as Kerry. Although, I think Bush will win because of numerous negatives against Kerry.
Okay. Got bucks?
Try looking at the responses he got that are so typical for anyone who doesn't go with the flow. No rebuttal of any of his specifics, just slams as a DU troll.
Alternate views and opinions need to be voiced.
Beeing a cheering chorus of 'yes men' doesn't help anyone.
Not to mention that Kerry had to admit to making mistakes. It was the only way he could square his conflicting statements. He tried to back Bush into a similar position, but Bush steadfastly stuck to his convictions and portrayed his clarity of vision. Glitz will fade, but steadfastness leaves a lasting impression. See what the polls say in 48 hours -- when the true impact of the debate is measurable.
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