Skip to comments.Does Johnny Depp Deserve YOUR Money?
Posted on 06/30/2005 4:15:25 AM PDT by Jon Alvarez
Boycott Alert: Charlie and the Chocolate Factory
Release Date: July 15, 2005
Starring: Johnny Depp
"America is dumb, it's like a dumb puppy that has big teeth that can bite and hurt you, aggressive."
--Johnny Depp, in Berlin, Germany, 2003
Although I dislike Johnny Depp's political views, they wouldn't keep me from seeing his films.
Even actors have a right to their opinions. The problem is when they think themselves authorities because of their celebrityhood. Depp, I don't think, stands on a soapbox.
In the tradition of european fairy tales, children were not immune from coming to harm. That would classify it as a dark book by today's standards.
And that Grandpa Joe is the biggest load in the history of all movies! He lays there like a lump for twenty years, while his grandson tries to scrap together some living for the whole family.
About ten minutes after the kid gets tickets to someplace really cool, that lazy old bastard is up and dancing around the room!
If I was Charlie, I would have kicked his skinny old ass.
It has a dark look because the director is TIM BURTON... who ALWAYS does his films stylized.. IE.. original Batman, Edward Scissor Hands, Big Fish etc...
I don't care much for Depp's off screen politics, but I will say this.
He did wise up and realize that the work he does does matter and influences children... once his kids were born he started only doing films that he felt were appropriate. I salute him for that, and frankly as much as I don't agree with his politics he is a much better actor than most of the clowns in Hollywood today.
I have a suspicion that this film will flop, largely because there is no need to redo it... The original stands the test of time.
Well, yeah - they do sortof come to harm, though we are told, even in the book, that they'll be fine. It wasn't ~scary~ and dark. I haven't seen the trailer, I'm not really interested in seeing this, but the level of ~scary~ in the first movie is all that was ever in the book. It wasn't a suspense thriller or anything.
So, you research every actor, director, producer for religious and moral views before seeing a movie?
And that has to do with what I said....how?
The intended audience for the books was pre-teen. If you're seven or eight, then the books are suspense thrillers.
OK - I can see that.... but suspense thriller is relative.... it was age appropriate for children. It wasn't "Steven King" dark.
Liked P of C. Took a long time for me to ever see one of his movies after Edward Scissorhands. Will go see this one. I don't think the Oompa Loompa song, if it's even in there, will be very light as it was in the original. This version looks very dark
No, not "steven king dark" and I wouldn't take a pre-teen to see most of the movies based on his books. People forget these days, there are books and movies for kids and books and movies for adults (when I say adults, I don't just mean x-rated, but mature themes).
By the way, I'm shocked that nobody has jumped on Dahl for being a Satanist, since he did write The Witches.
Actually he said he played it like keith richards.
"He is downright ugly, IMO. Why is he considered such a sex symbol??"
Are you kidding? Depp is hot. Smoking hot.
'"Charlie and the Chocolate Factory" I believe is the correct name of the story. I liked that as a kid, also "Charlie and the Great Glass Elevator", though I don't remember it much. My fave was "James and the Giant Peach"."
Did you ever read "Danny, Champion of the World?" That was one of my absolute favorite Dahl books when I was a kid.
Try "Boy." One of his adult books.
Give them time.... they don't know what all to be outraged about yet ;~D
Never Mind.......He did suck as Donnie Brasco, and the book was 100 x's better than the movie.
Witches was directed by Nick Roeg who did
Don't Look Now
The Man Who Fell to Earth.
Well worth watching.
No, I do not. But I am 47 years old and have seen hundreds of movies in my life. I know what I like and I also know certain directors and such. Case in point - just about any movie with Kris Kristofferson sucks. That has been my general opinion of his acting ability so I generally do not see anything that he is in. Sometimes I make exceptions - I saw Mel Gibson's Payback and he was okay in that but still wooden. So some are like that. However, if I find out about a particular individuals religious and moral views, and it does not agree with mine, I do not see the movie or buy the music. Simple as that. And I do not feel I have been deprived of anything because I missed it.
Pat Garrett and Billy the Kid
Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Garcia
All with Kris Kristofferson
The point is that you are an American and that Depp thinks you are a dumb puppy.
But you're a star-struck little fool with no pride, so take the pain, little girl. Your hero doesn't like you.
He's no hero of mine, although he is a good actor. I don't hero worship. Whether or not he's thinks I'm dumb doesn't bother me. He's entitled to his opinion, even if it's wrong.
Many times I think a lot of Americans are really dumb. Sometimes it just shocks me things people in this country do. So I guess that would make my anti-American?
Oh, and if you read the article in which he made the comments you'd realize that he was referring to the government, not the people.
But, he way to sink right down into the childish name calling. How old are you? 12?
"The point is that you are an American and that Depp thinks you are a dumb puppy.
But you're a star-struck little fool with no pride, so take the pain, little girl. Your hero doesn't like you."
Wow, I see we're riding the hyperbole train today. I would hazard a guess that Depp has no feelings about the person you are posting to one way or another. I would further guess that the person you are posting to is neither "star-struck" nor lacking in pride. Depp is an actor. He's made some pretty good flicks. What he has to say about things outside of his dayjob is pretty much irrelevant.
You wouldn't be so charitable to Depp if he came to your house and set a paper bag filled with dog crap on fire on your front steps, would you?
I bet you wouldn't defend this millionaire actor if he egged your new car, then soaped up the windows.
What if he snuck into your yard at night and painted your dog orange?
You wouldn't think he was so great then, would you?
I'm supposing that you do not make a living as a Free Republic commentator, so we can apply what you just said to everything you say here: It's irrelevant. :-)
I love Gene in "The Producers" and "The Frisco Kid," and "Young Frankenstein" of course.
The guy is simply hot.
Ever seen "Start The Revolution Without Me"?
Even as the foppish Phillipe, he was all man.
[I had *such* a thing for him when I was a teenager]...;))
I am a big fan of Wilder's as well. One of my favorite movies of his is Frisco Kid with Harrison Ford...from 'back in the day' (late seventies)....about a Polish rabbi being sent to the Jewish community in San Francisco in the 1800s.
(singsong): "Come here little chickie chickie chickie...I don't want to HURT you, I just want to EAT you..."
""My daughter is four, my boy is one. I'd like them to see America as a toy, a broken toy. Investigate it a little, check it out, get this feeling and then get out," said the star of the off-beat films "Edward Scissorhands" and "Dead Man."
If that's the way he feels about this country, then he and the movies he makes don't deserve my support - financially or otherwise.
What was pretty obvious at the time of this Stern interview was that Depp backed WAY off of his anti-American comments only after he was apparently warned (probably by his agent) that the movie would be hurt at the box office.
"I'm supposing that you do not make a living as a Free Republic commentator, so we can apply what you just said to everything you say here: It's irrelevant. :-)"
Sure, if that's how you feel. But it hardly appears to be the same situation. This is a discussion board, specifically for the purpose of, well, discussion.
My point is that Depp is an actor. My "contact" with him is limited to watching him in movies. I don't pay attention to what he (or any other entertainment figure) says about anything not involving entertainment. Consequently, I don't understand why people get all riled up about it.
I'll second that.
["there can be only Won-ka"?]....LOL!
Also see - Convoy
Big Top Pee Wee
Besides, why does it bother you what I see or why I see it? If you think I am wrong, then just move along. Don't bother posting to me why you think I should change.
I loved the scene where he thought he'd found refuge with some orthodox Jews in Pennsylvania...hats and beards...and it turned out they were Amish!
I just found Scarecrow on Netflix!
Not to mention his hysterical performance in 'Blazing Saddles' as "The Waco Kid".
I for one think he is a brilliant actor, and would never boycott his films.
I thought he was great in that movie.
I always kind of liked KK -- he's had an interesting life and probably a lot of fun. Maybe too much fun.
People get to pick and choose what they want. Hey, this is America. The thing that fascinates me is the idea of avoiding movies because of the political beliefs or personal life of actors. Actors, as a group, tend to be deeply flawed individuals. Happy, well-adjusted people don't go into acting. Happy people sell insurance, open small businesses and raise families.
"Apparantly you have an emotional problem against those who want to defend themselves against enemies. Otherwise, you wouldn't feel compelled to make posts against us. It's too bad you feel that way. Your so emoitional. :-)"
Are you sure you meant to post this to me? You should either take your meds, or learn to distinguish between reading posts and listening to the voices in your head...
He never "denied" saying that - as usual for the apologists, what he did say was that his words were misconstrued. The quotes were from an interview he did with Stern, a German magazine (see the story I linked above). Of course, I'm sure Depp originally thought nobody in this country would pay attention to anti-American comments he made over in Europe, but he backpedalled big time afterwards.
I thought Depp was pretty good both in Blow and POTC, but I definitely have no desire to see Wonka.
There's something twisted about 99% of kids' movies these days. Even though they pretend to be bright and happy, there are often dark undertones. I think I believe it when I hear that many of the people involved in kids' movies are gay.
And what is it with people who honor people because they are good "actors" even though they hate their politics or lifestyle? Is being a good actor an honorable thing?
They may be paid studio flaks who are paid to monitor this site and counter the anti-hollywood bias that we exhibit here in the great Free Republic.
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