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Ford’s Giugiaro Mustang Concept Revealed Ahead Of L.A. Debut
Winding Road for Drivers ^ | November 28th, 2006 12:47 AM | Christopher Paukert

Posted on 11/29/2006 10:12:26 AM PST by taildragger

As expected, Ford will unveil this one-off based on its Mustang pony car in Los Angeles. Dubbed the “Ford Mustang Giugiaro” concept, the fully drivable scissor-doored coupe boasts a chopped glass roof and is “powered by Ford Racing technologies.” The design is said to hint at what’s in store for the 2010 Mustang replacement.

(Excerpt) Read more at news.windingroad.com ...


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To: Liberty Valance

That is one beautiful car you have there!


61 posted on 11/29/2006 3:01:37 PM PST by sockhead (socialisim . . . where everyone is equal . . . equally miserable)
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To: theFIRMbss

And racing legend Jim Clark drove a '63 Galaxie. That doesn't make it a sports car.

By the way "Frank Bullitt" owned a Mustang -- not Steve McQueen


62 posted on 11/29/2006 3:16:10 PM PST by corvetteman
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To: corvetteman
Thanks for your sweeping "knowledge." And no, I never read stupid car magazines and certainly wouldn't save any. I actually *build* and restore muscle cars instead of looking at someone elses ride.

Yes the rating of the Ford 427 was 425 horses, but the real output was substantially higher. It is also common knowledge that Carrol Shelby reworked all the 271HP 289's supplied by Ford to a 306HP configuration in the 65-66 years. Now let me correct your 'facts' regarding the horsepower of the 65 327 Corvette...it was actually 365 HP with fuel injection. And yes they ARE awesome. BTW I've owned Corvettes, my favorite being my 66 with a 350 horse 327 (normally aspirated) but it certainly wasn't a great 'sports car', it handled like poo-poo and the front end starts to lift off the ground at around 130...

Maybe before you get so condescending with other posters you should check your 'facts' first.

63 posted on 11/29/2006 5:26:07 PM PST by JOAT
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To: brooklin

FOR LATER


64 posted on 11/29/2006 5:57:13 PM PST by brooklin
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To: JOAT

Wow -- you are the man. Actually, some people list the 327 fuelie at 375. Doesn't matter. Box stock it is still way above the Cobra 289's 306 (by your numbers).

Anyway, for a lesson in condescension just read your first post.


65 posted on 11/29/2006 6:27:19 PM PST by corvetteman
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To: corvetteman

You signed up today, just to be a total ass? Piss off...


66 posted on 11/29/2006 6:55:14 PM PST by Paradox (American Conservatives: Keeping the world safe for Liberalism.)
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To: Moose4

"I like the new Mustangs. It's the most successful "retro" car look I've seen yet, except maybe Dodge's new Challenger concept. "

Ever driven one? Yechs-ville.


67 posted on 11/29/2006 6:56:38 PM PST by MikeyGo (Pray for our warriors. And pray their political enemies will not have the power to stop them.)
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To: corvetteman
Wow -- you are the man.

Thanks noob.

Anyway, the performance of the Cobra is the important component of the equation, not the rating of the horsepower. Undeniably the Cobra, in either 289 or 427 form outperformed its Chevrolet contemporaries.

Of course that's all just nostalgia, isn't it? Current Covettes have no rivals in the American car market, certainly not from the current Mustang.

(Of course you could buy 2 Mustangs and have money left over to supercharge them for what it costs to own a new Vette, but it's all about compensating with some guys.)

68 posted on 11/29/2006 7:04:55 PM PST by JOAT
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To: corvetteman
By the way "Frank Bullitt" owned a Mustang -- not Steve McQueen

Only because the owner of the remaining '68 Fastback from the film (purchased from the movie studio) refused to sell it to McQueen. Steve wanted *that* Mustang.

69 posted on 11/29/2006 11:15:32 PM PST by Charles Martel (Liberals are the crab grass in the lawn of life.)
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To: RexBeach
I agree, it looks like the camaro.


70 posted on 11/29/2006 11:18:30 PM PST by Pro-Bush (hater)
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To: RexBeach
I saw a completely restored '68 Shelby back in '94 with a 428 Cobra that had been spanked up - a 4 speed manual. Black on Black. You could eat off the bottom underside of the car it was so clean.

The bottom end had at least $12K of parts in it with the cam, crank and pistons and high volume oil pump, balancing, magnafluxing, etc.

The block was only 30 over, but with the mods, he said he was at somewhere around 550 cu. in. Up top, aluminum heads - polished & ported with a 5 angle valve job, new intake with a slight rise to it, and a 750 Holley with tuned headers. The fellow said it dyno'd at 748 horses to the axle and I believed him. It was a show car, but it had straight duals to the rear w/ a crossover in front of the tranny and a street exhaustback at the shop that easily switched out. And yes, he fired it after the crowd got big, and then lit up some serious rubber --- a huge cloud. You couldn't talk to anyone within 5 ft of the car once he punched it.

Awesome....Awesome ....Awesome. Everyone turned that way when he cranked the old girl up. He said he wouldn't take less than $80K for her then and I thought that was fair even though the VIN showed didn't originally come with that 428.

71 posted on 11/30/2006 6:30:10 AM PST by RSmithOpt (Liberalism: Highway to Hell)
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To: Paradox

Actually, I signed up simply to have some fun dialogue about cars (and thoroughly enjoyed the one with JOAT, who clearly knows his stuff). The opportunity to receive your bon mots is just icing on the cake.

BTW - JOAT - Agree that current Covettes have no rivals in the American car market (but I'm sure you guessed that). And please don't get me wrong, the Cobra was a great car and Shelby, of course, is a genius and an American icon. Any guy who can build great cars from some pretty humble parts (like the AC chassis), and compete at LeMans while popping nitro pills for his angina, is a pretty special human being.

I just don't generally think of the original Cobra as a Ford simply because of its power plant, any more than I would consider an ISO Grifo a Chevy, or a Jensen Interceptor or a Monteverde a Chrysler. A lot of work and inspiration by others make them what they are.

As far as buying and supercharging 2 Mustangs, instead of one Corvette, I'm not really sure which guy in that equation would be guilty of compensating. I do know that I can buy a whole box of White Owls for the price of a good Montecristo, but I will take the Montecristo any time.

Anyway, it has been a real pleasure debating this stuff with you (and a refreshing change from the political stuff that usually populates these pages). Hope to run into you (figuratively, of course) on the road some time. I'm sure the discussion would be interesting and enlightening. (No one ever changes any one else's mind about this stuff, do they?) I'll bring the Montecristos. (I will bring one for you too, Paradox. You may not want to hear what I have to say, but you gotta listen to this guy JOAT!)

Happy motoring!


72 posted on 11/30/2006 7:20:14 AM PST by corvetteman
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To: RSmithOpt

Yikes! What a monster! Kowabunga, 748 HP at the rear axle! Holy cow, that would get you to the corner store in a jiffy!

I am the proud owner of a 2003 Mustang Cobra. The factory says the motor is rated at 390 HP, but I have been told that that is a low number by folks who've dynoed theirs.

It is a lovely car and gets up to 26 MPG on the highway.

I haven't done any after market work on it.

Thank you for your note! Vroom, vroom!

-Rex


73 posted on 11/30/2006 7:26:00 AM PST by RexBeach ("There is no substitute for victory." Douglas MacArthur)
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To: corvetteman
Actually, I signed up simply to have some fun dialogue about cars

We generally look down upon newbies who sign up and then immediately launch into snide comments. Trollish behavior usually gets one removed from the user rolls here.

As for my thoughts on the merits of Vettes vs Stangs, I see them as different cars. I don't know ANY Mustang owners who consider their cars "sports cars", and I was in the position to know quite a few.

I like the Corvette, its America's answer to the foo-foo uberCars from Europe, but it can spank most of them for a fraction of the price.

My wife doesn't care for the car, however, she says its a car that is usually owned by older, balding guys with erectile disfunction.

74 posted on 11/30/2006 7:35:21 AM PST by Paradox (American Conservatives: Keeping the world safe for Liberalism.)
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To: RexBeach

Are you sure about that MacArthur quote? I thought Roger Penske said that.


75 posted on 11/30/2006 7:38:45 AM PST by corvetteman
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To: All
Carburetors, man!
That's what life is all about!

I was not myself last night
Lost a fight
My woody barely running

By a dude I should have beat
And on the street
A blow like that is stunning

I finally lost control
I tore my tuck-n-roll
Upholstery

Where my baby sits up close to me
That's supposed to be
What life is all about

Upholstery
Where my baby sits up close to me
That's supposed to be
What life is all about

Of all life's mysteries
The greatest one I've seen
My short runs better
When it's clean...

I was not myself last night
Ran a light
Without my registration

Where the cops were bound to see
And you know me
Already on probation

I wound up on parole
I tore my tuck-n-roll
Upholstery

Where my baby sits up close to me
That's supposed to be
What life is all about

Upholstery
Where my baby sits up close to me
That's supposed to be
What our life is all about




76 posted on 11/30/2006 7:51:13 AM PST by theFIRMbss
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To: corvetteman

Hi! Here is the complete quote. I shortened it a mite. It is MacArtthur's alright!

What kind of vette do you own?


77 posted on 11/30/2006 7:52:20 AM PST by RexBeach ("In war there is no substitute for victory." Douglas MacArthur)
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To: Paradox

WOW. I thought American Conservatives (like me) believed in FREE speech and did not "look down" on anyone just because they were new to the discussion.
Seems you have a lot of rules on who can speak and what they can say. Now I'm not talking about offensive language or personal attacks, e.g., calling someone a "total a*s" or telling them to "P*ss off", which I certainly did not do (although I believe some else did, no?); I'm just talking about healthy red-blooded American debate about CARS! I also did not make any references to "spankings" or disparage the highly personal medical problems that some people unfortunately suffer.

With regard to your other comments, you obviously haven't met the same Mustang owners I have, but that's under the bridge.

And while I am clearly middle aged, I have a great head of hair and no other medical problems to speak of.

And my wife, God bless her (I can say that here can't I?), bought me my Corvette, and it was not to compensate for anything -- I just love great cars! (That whole guys buying cars to compensate for other things stuff is just a lot of nonsense cooked up by left wing, car-hating, mass transit loving, Nader worshipping, hybrid driving socialists!)

Anyway, if I broke any RULES about what I am PERMITTED to say here, I apologize. My offer of a Montecristo still stands.


78 posted on 11/30/2006 8:25:50 AM PST by corvetteman
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To: RexBeach
Congrats on the 03 'Stang. Sounds like she'll move. My boss has an '03 'Stang too with the V8 and a 5-speed. He let nme drive it to lunch one day with him in the co-pilot's seat. He didn't let me drive it again. Told him that day (without lighting up his tires) that we needed to find out if anything would break if he ever got one it. ;-)

The 26 mpg is great....my boss's also has numbers like that too!

FYI: there's a chip tune-up you can get to drop the cut-out at 110 mph.

79 posted on 11/30/2006 8:33:06 AM PST by RSmithOpt (Liberalism: Highway to Hell)
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To: corvetteman
Anyway, if I broke any RULES about what I am PERMITTED to say here, I apologize.

Rules? Nah. Being abrasive on a CAR thread is expected man! Taking a ribbing for being a new guy is normal...just roll yer eyes and fire back.

Welcome to FR.

80 posted on 11/30/2006 8:42:47 AM PST by JOAT
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