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Young Earth Creationist Attack on the New Texas Earth and Space Science Course
Texas Citizens for Science ^ | January 15, 2009 | Steven Schafersman, Ph.D.

Posted on 01/19/2009 9:42:35 PM PST by Coyoteman

The new Earth and Space Science (ESS) course standards (and all other science course standards) will be up for approval before the State Board of Education (SBOE) during January 21-23. Some SBOE members--the seven who are Young Earth Creationists (YECs)--will attempt to make changes to the ESS standards in ways that will damage the scientific integrity and accuracy of the course. In particular, these SBOE members will try to negatively modify or delete the standards that require students to understand the following topics that deal with scientific topics they consider controversial: age of the Earth and universe, radiometric dating, evolution of fossil life, and the origin of life by abiotic chemical processes. These topics are the ones that YECs consider to be controversial; indeed, they are obsessed with them to the exclusion of everything else.

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To: doc30; metmom

Alot of sane rational people? The vast majority of sane rational people understand the failed godless liberal NEA is exactly that...failed. They get an F.

http://www.evolutionnews.org/2006/03/americans_overwhelmingly_suppo.html

Headline: “Americans Overwhelmingly Support Teaching Scientific Challenges to Darwinian Evolution, Zogby Poll Shows” From March 2006.

http://www.discovery.org/scripts/viewDB/filesDB-download.php?command=download&id=719

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Free Republic Poll on Evolution
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-backroom/1706571/posts?page=63#63

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Creationism makes a comeback in US
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1856224/posts

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Teaching creation and evolution in schools
Solid research reveals American beliefs
http://www.answersingenesis.org/tj/v13/i2/teaching.asp

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Survey Finds Support Is Strong For Teaching 2 Origin Theories
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9B07E4D9143BF932A25750C0A9669C8B63

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Public Divided on Origins of Life
http://people-press.org/report/254/religion-a-strength-and-weakness-for-both-parties

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Americans Believe in Jesus, Poll Says (creation poll results included)
http://derekgulbranson.com/2005/01/17/americans-believe-in-jesus/


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41 posted on 01/20/2009 11:20:00 AM PST by tpanther (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing---Edmund Burke)
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To: js1138; metmom

It will be interesting to see this play out in court. Perhaps this time it will get to an appeals court and establish a national precedent.


Sure why not...now that you’ve got a hypocrat congress and president in place to continue bashing any and all things Christan, why not?

Good a time as any.


42 posted on 01/20/2009 11:21:48 AM PST by tpanther (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing---Edmund Burke)
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To: doc30; metmom
If this goes through, Texas will become one fucked up state with respect to education.

Newsflash....the godless liberal NEA has already undermined our public education, and they socialize kids, they don't educate them.

As a matter of fact, before the godless liberal NEA stomped God out of science class, science flourished, as did our schools.

43 posted on 01/20/2009 11:25:36 AM PST by tpanther (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing---Edmund Burke)
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To: tpanther
science enforced by the courts...typical liberalism

Worldview enforced by courts, and by the threat of legal violence for non-compliance - THAT'S typical liberalism.

44 posted on 01/20/2009 11:34:08 AM PST by MrB (The 0bamanation: Marxism, Infanticide, Appeasement, Depression, Thuggery, and Censorship)
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To: WildcatClan

precisely...parents and students are intelligent enough to reject that which doesn’t make sense.

Unfortunately there’s the theory of evolution and the NEA cult of evolution demanded of public screwels.

It’s an open ended debate that will never be conclusively answered scientifically, but each and every criticism of evolution is seen as a religious assault on their cult.


45 posted on 01/20/2009 11:37:01 AM PST by tpanther (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing---Edmund Burke)
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To: Fichori
Fich, why are you continuing to bring this up?

Does everybody who posts here have to agree with JimRob on every issue? Does JimRob's opinion on scientific matters mean they are more credible?

I don't see the point you're making, and the 20 point type makes it look childish.

46 posted on 01/20/2009 11:40:29 AM PST by GunRunner
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To: Bhoy; metmom

It is very difficult to wend one’s way between Creationists and climate warmists:


No it’s not....algoreacle’s godless liberal hot air cult more closely resembles that of the godless cult of the NEA model of science and evolution.


47 posted on 01/20/2009 11:46:18 AM PST by tpanther (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing---Edmund Burke)
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To: refreshed; metmom

So confident that a dissenting voice might upset the whole apple cart?


Yup, the whole idea of peer review is a joke because every threat to evolution, every crticism is attacked as a “religious assault on science, theocracy, inquistion, dark ages, a threat to enlightenment, burinings at the stake”...etc.

and the only people incapable of recognizing this are the evo-cultists themselves.


48 posted on 01/20/2009 11:49:27 AM PST by tpanther (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing---Edmund Burke)
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To: smokingfrog

Just ram it down their throats and make them feel like a fool if they question anything they are taught. That’s what good teaching is all about, right?


That’s the godless liberal NEA way.


49 posted on 01/20/2009 11:52:43 AM PST by tpanther (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing---Edmund Burke)
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To: tpanther

.....Just ram it down their throats .....

That’s how they became Creos. constant indoctrination


50 posted on 01/20/2009 11:57:52 AM PST by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . The original point of America was not to be Europe)
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To: GunRunner; metmom; Fichori; valkyry1; betty boop; Alamo-Girl; Ethan Clive Osgoode; CottShop; MrB; ..

Fichori continues to bring it up because people like you continue to dishonestly argue that your position is the conservative one or the majority one when it’s CLEARLY neither.

You and your ilk continue to be under the cultish impression that you’re going to turn your side of this argument into the accepted conservative norm. It’s not and it will bever be.

You appear to be confused, daily, about which site you’re posting on.

With this blatant dishonesty, you should consider yourself lucky to be tolerated by Jim, and allowed to post on FR, quite frankly.


51 posted on 01/20/2009 11:58:32 AM PST by tpanther (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing---Edmund Burke)
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To: GunRunner; tpanther

Re #46.

What tpanther said. (#51)


52 posted on 01/20/2009 12:15:05 PM PST by Fichori (I believe in a Woman's right to choose, even if she hasn't been born yet.)
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To: tpanther; metmom; Fichori; valkyry1; betty boop; Alamo-Girl; Ethan Clive Osgoode; CottShop; MrB; ...
You appear to be confused, daily, about which site you’re posting on.

With this blatant dishonesty, you should consider yourself lucky to be tolerated by Jim, and allowed to post on FR, quite frankly.

Take a hike TP; I was posting here 6 years before you even showed up. I don't need to defend myself to a noob.

You're also a one trick pony. Every statement you make on these threads is "Evolution is a Cult" or some slight modification. That's your only point.

There's creationists here that, while I don't agree with them at all, are able to much more coherently and cordially put forth their message, a message that is light years ahead of

53 posted on 01/20/2009 12:18:52 PM PST by GunRunner
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To: tpanther; metmom; Fichori; valkyry1; betty boop; Alamo-Girl; Ethan Clive Osgoode; CottShop; MrB; ...
You appear to be confused, daily, about which site you’re posting on.

With this blatant dishonesty, you should consider yourself lucky to be tolerated by Jim, and allowed to post on FR, quite frankly.

Take a hike TP; I was posting here 6 years before you even showed up. I don't need to defend myself to a noob.

You're also a one trick pony. Every statement you make on these threads is "Evolution is a Cult" or some slight modification. That's your only point.

There's creationists here that, while I don't agree with them at all, are able to much more coherently and cordially put forth their message, a message that is light years ahead of

54 posted on 01/20/2009 12:19:14 PM PST by GunRunner
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To: Coyoteman; Fichori; tpanther; valkyry1; Mr. Silverback

All from the guy who accuses anyone who’s not an evolutionist of being a dominionist who wants to burn scientists at the stake?

That’s funny.....


55 posted on 01/20/2009 12:21:46 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: GunRunner

yours.


56 posted on 01/20/2009 12:23:41 PM PST by GunRunner
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To: GunRunner; tpanther

thanks so much for including me in the pissin’ match...
MrB - Nov, 1998


57 posted on 01/20/2009 12:24:30 PM PST by MrB (The 0bamanation: Marxism, Infanticide, Appeasement, Depression, Thuggery, and Censorship)
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To: doc30
If this goes through, Texas will become one fucked up state with respect to education. And all in the name of keeping kids stupid for the sake of a minority deviation from Christianity and Islam.

BWAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!

So much material, so little time.

The first being the ASSumption that the education system is not *screwed up* in the first place.

58 posted on 01/20/2009 12:25:10 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: GunRunner

yes you’ve been here 6 years...and your point?

oh wait, you never have one.


59 posted on 01/20/2009 12:36:16 PM PST by tpanther (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing---Edmund Burke)
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To: tpanther
No, try again. 8 years.

The point is that hearing a noob tell me I'm lucky to be here is as ridiculous as claiming that I've said that I speak for everyone here, which I've never done. Nor do I claim to speak for all conservatives.

You however, claim to speak for the majority of freepers AND conservatives.

Freepers, both creationist and non-creationist don't need you to speak for them; you bring very little to the table.

60 posted on 01/20/2009 12:43:44 PM PST by GunRunner
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