Posted on 02/21/2009 6:30:20 PM PST by JoeProBono
In January 2009, I had the distinct pleasure to meet one of the greats of Ufology. Kathleen Marden is the niece of Betty Hill, who was involved with her husband Barney, in a highly publicized abduction on September 20, 1961. The factor that makes this unique is that the abductors brought their victims on board a spaceship, the likes of which defied imagination.
Betty and Barney Hills account is documented in the well written book CAPTURED! The Betty and Barney Hill UFO Experience by Kathy Marden and Ufologist and original Roswell crash researcher, Stanton T. Friedman, MSc, so I will not try to duplicate efforts. Instead, I will refer you to their work for the historical account.
This abduction by alien entities originated several notable firsts. This would become the most publicized alien abduction in history to date, due in part to the amazing level of detail that has become known. This account also benefitted from the believability of Betty and Barney. Never were there two people who shunned the spotlight more than the Hills. The Hills were leaders in their community and well-respected. Betty was a social worker, and both were members of the NAACP. Barney was passionate about his civil rights work, having contributed to the movement as a member of the U.S. Civil Rights Commission in his home state of New Hampshire.
Another first would be the use of hypnosis in the treatment of the Hills to uncover their hidden memories. Contrary to some claims, the Hills did not immediately remember everything that had occurred. The treatment was undertaken by Dr. Benjamin Simon, who was the first to theorize and later prove the validity of hypnotherapy in the treatment of Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder among war veterans. This was not the only factor that made Dr. Simon the perfect person to treat the Hills. Dr. Simon did not believe in the extraterrestrial hypothesis, the belief that some unidentified flying objects are in reality extraterrestrial spacecraft piloted by alien entities, what some derisively refer to as "little green men". By believing there to be another causal factor to their condition, the Hills were not "led" by the doctor into erroneous memory recollections. The introduction of Dr. Simon lent to the validity of the account of abduction by aliens.
Umm...isn’t it kinda weird their names are Betty and Barney?
Kidnapped by the Great Gazoo?
Leni
dont bet too much.
LOL!!
Betty Hill, 85, Figure in Alien Abduction Case, Dies
By MARGALIT FOX
Published: October 23, 2004
Betty Hill, whose assertion that she was carried off by otherworldly beings in 1961 inspired a national obsession with alien abduction that remains a staple of American popular culture, died on Sunday at her home in Portsmouth, N.H. She was 85.
The cause was lung cancer, her niece Kathleen Marden said.
Mrs. Hill was not the first person to tell of an alien encounter. But her account was the first to capture the public imagination on a grand scale, defining a narrative subgenre that has flourished in the decades since.
Mrs. Hill's account was the subject of a book by John G. Fuller, "The Interrupted Journey: Two Lost Hours 'Aboard a Flying Saucer' " (Dial, 1966). In 1975 it became a television movie, "The UFO Incident." The film starred Estelle Parsons as Mrs. Hill and James Earl Jones as her husband, Barney, who also said he was abducted.
The incident, the Hills said, occurred on the night of Sept. 19, 1961. Driving in the White Mountains of New Hampshire, they saw a light that seemed to grow larger and larger. Back home, they found what appeared to be shiny spots on the car's exterior. They could not account for a two-hour segment of their trip.
The Hills later saw a psychiatrist, who put them under hypnosis. Gradually, a narrative of the couple's lost hours emerged. They recounted many times that a group of short gray-skinned beings stopped their car and took them aboard a waiting spaceship. There, the Hills said, they were subjected to rigorous medical examinations that included inserting a long needle into Mrs. Hill's navel.
The account fit squarely in the Western narrative tradition. With a dark night, ghostly apparitions and sexual undercurrent, it had many Victorian gothic hallmarks, and it shared the common Western folklore theme of being spirited off and ravished by an otherworldly creature.
In the Hills' account, these traditional elements were transplanted to a modern but no less anxious time, the height of the cold war, when many people gazed nervously skyward.
"It's not unlike the Leda and the swan myth," said Terry Matheson, a professor of English at the University of Saskatchewan and the author of "Alien Abductions: Creating a Modern Phenomenon" (Prometheus, 1998). "The alien comes in, probes women in a distinctly sexual way for purposes that are equally inscrutable, but which may, we're told, make sense down the road."
Mrs. Hill was born Eunice Elizabeth Barrett on June 28, 1919, in Newton, N.H. A graduate of the University of New Hampshire, she was a social worker for many years. Besides her niece, survivors include three sisters, two children and three grandchildren. Mr. Hill died in 1969.
The Hills' cultural legacy includes films ("Close Encounters of the Third Kind"), television programs ("Roswell") and books, like those by Whitley Strieber and John Mack, that treat alien abduction as a plausible phenomenon.
I remember seeing the movie with James Earl Jones and Estelle Parsons:
The UFO Incident (1975) (TV)
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0073834/
Looks like you can watch it on YouTube too:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LsrsxtGSDcM&feature=related
Only through hypnosis, did they find out what happened to them (or so says the hypno-therapy, which can also help you recall your previous lives, like the woman who was hypnotized on TV and recalled working as a prostitute in the Wild West!)
Some of you will recall that on July 8, 1947, a little over 60 years
ago, witnesses claim that an unidentified flying object (UFO) with
five aliens aboard crashed onto a sheep and cattle ranch just outside
Roswell , New Mexico . This is a well known incident that many say has
long been covered up by the U.S. Air Force and other federal agencies
and organizations.
However, what you may NOT know is that in the month of April 1948,
nine months after that historic day, the following people were born:
Albert A. Gore, Jr.
Hillary Rodham
John F. Kerry
William J. Clinton
Howard Dean
Nancy Pelosi
Dianne Feinstein
Charles E. Schumer
Barbara Boxer
See what happens when aliens breed with sheep?
I certainly hope this bit of information clears up a lot of things for you. It did for me.
No wonder they love to support legislation to help illegal aliens!
Now You Know.
Ping.
After a long night time drive they arrived at their destination much later than the distance driven would require and could not account for the missing time. Thus the saga begins. Didn't Betty become a favorite guest speaker at UFO gatherings?
There have been many UFO sightings in the NH seacoast area (the Pease Air Force Base used to be there).
Another famous one is the “Exeter incident.”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exeter_incident
Part II of 10 The UFO incident:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9R4JyJN5aLU&feature=related
I found a site hawking it for $99. I read it. It was a joke. Here's the blurb from the site:
* THE DAY AFTER ROSWELL: A Former Pentagon Official Reveals the US Government's Shocking UFO Cover-Up, by COL. PHILIP J. CORSO (Ret.). Foreword by US Senator Strom Thurmond. Amazing revelations by a top US military man directly involved in dispersing alien artifacts from the crash of a UFO at Roswell, New Mexico, to major companies who then developed integrated computer chips, fiber optics, lasers and more. The author is a former member of the National Security Council under Eisenhower. The Foreword by Senator Thurmond created a big fuss, as he claimed he did not know his letter of endorsement would be published, so this was removed from subsequent editions and printings. This is therefore a unique Collector's Item! In mint, brand-new condition, with dust cover. No shelf wear. 341 pp. $ 99.00 HardboundJust for factual purposes, the comments about Thurmond are incorrect. Here's what actually happened. Phillip Corso had been an aide to Thurmond. Before publishing the book, he asked Thurmond to write a foreword. I read the foreword. It's standard boilerplate, in all likelihood written by one of Thurmond's aides. It compliments Corso as a good man and all around great guy with a commendable service record. There's no mention of UFOs or the subject of the book. Thurmond had this foreword written as a favor to a former aide, and it was totally general. He had no idea the book was this UFO junk. When he found out, he asked that his foreword be removed. The text was obviously written as a foreword, and Thurmond doubtless thought the book would be a military personal life story or some such.
This story may be the REAL one, but I've seen way too many Bigfoot in a Freezer stories to go snipe hunting again.
Slightly off topic perhaps, but Betty Rubble is one of those cartoon characters who has always been on my "anywhere, anytime" list.
She and Judy Jetson.
And the Flying Nun too, though I realize she's not a cartoon.
Funny, but debunked.
Oh my!
It has always bothered me that people that claim alien abduction always describe painful “medical tests” (that included inserting a long needle into Mrs. Hill’s navel.). If aliens are sophisticated enough to get here, why would they be using “horse doctor” medical techniques?
Looks like an Asgard. Well actually Thor was “cuter”.
Well, if you’re talking about “anywhere, anytime”, I gotta go with Arlene Golonka (Howard Sprague’s girlfriend) and Teresa Ganzel (hot actress and cartoon voice). Both, sadly, way over the hill now.
That is after 3 million years in deep space.....
I know, but it was good for a laugh....ha!
I can’t say that as when I was a teenager, my sister, brother and I saw what could be classed as a UFO. I have no idea what it was but I can say it didn’t fly like anything I’d seen before or since.
IIRC, they were examined about every which was was routine at the time.
Great posts thanks.
My aunt and uncle had friends named Bert and Ernie, the woman’s name was Bert. I forgot what it was short for.
Be creepy if it were true, though. BTW, Hillary actually was born 3 months after the Roswell Incident.
My dad, three older brothers, and neighbors saw one in Montomery, Alabama in the late 1960’s. Unfortunately I was a baby. My brothers saw it first and were very excitedly trying to get my dad to come out. He didn’t believe them at first. It came in over a pasture, then I believe it disappeared very quickly. Neighbors were out as well looking at it. Neighbors didn’t know what to make of it. My dad called up the local news station to report it, and they wanted my dad’s name—which he wouldn’t give. He was in the A.F. at the time and didn’t want any government visitors I guess. I think the official verdict was that it was a bread advertisement :) According to my dad and brothers it was a typical flying saucer shape and had lights around it. It disappeared very quickly. They don’t know what it was, but didn’t buy the bread advertisement deal.
It was night and we couldn’t see the shape but it had a row of lights. We were aged 16, 17 and 19. And not given to odd fantasies. The thing hovered, zipped a distance, hovered again, then disappeared. I’ve never seen anything fly that fast.
You are basically describing the same thing my dad and brothers described they saw. It seems to me this was all happening before the sun set. Be interesting if there was a way to pull up any accounts of it in the papers in Montgomery at the time. When did this happen to you and your friends—60’s, 70’s?
It was my brother and sister with me and it was the summer of 67. Maybe 8pm.
I think your ASSUMPTIONS are quite flawed.
Everybody has an opinion.
Actually,
NOT AT ALL.
Certainly a minority of cases do . . . but those which experienced researchers
and experienced clinicians . . . vet . . .
your assertion would be laughable regarding those cases.
John Mack—chief psychiatrist of a unit at Harvard Medical school was no slouch in assessing such cases.
There are other well known researchers and therapists who can spot the flakey hoaxy stuff a mile away.
Evidently your familiarity with the genre is so anemic as to leave you with an incredible paucity of discrimminating skills in distinguishing the chaff from the authentic.
pity.
I was born summer 67. I was a baby at the time. Don’t know exactly how old so it had to have been in 67 or 68. Odd that it happened about the same time, isn’t it? I’ll have to ask my dad again the exact details and write them down—I’m remembering the basics though accurately and it sounds very similar to your account.
What did your brother and sister think? What part of the country was it?
NO!
The Betty and Barney Hill case has NOT been discredited.
Stanton Friedman and other famous researchers have been over it backwards and forwards and verified it’s authenticity from a number of directions and perspectives.
The star map Betty was evidently shown on the craft and was able to recall . . . turns out to have been quite accurate when at the time our astronomers did not know such to be the case. Later discoveries proved Betty quite accurate on all the 3 dimensions.
Toledo, Ohio and they hid behind me. And we never told anyone. :-)
GOODNESS, Joe!
When flaming ignorance flares, it flares big on these threads!
The threat of the paradigm shift must be toooooo huge a looming freak-out to the emotional existential constructions on reality by the typical naysayer.
Some are sounding increasingly brittle . . . maybe even paranoid.
Great list! I’d have to add Jessica Rabbit to my “anywhere, anytime” cartoon list.
Thanks for your report.
There must be at least a dozen FREEPERS who have had first hand experiences . . . and commented to Las Vegas Dave and I—maybe 2 dozen.
And a very few folks who’ve come across them in their ‘government’ jobs.
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