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"The Watchmen" Lie: Hollywood Sends More Depravity Your Kids' Way Costumed as "Superhero" Flick
debbieschlussel.com ^ | March 4, 2009 | Debbie Schlussel

Posted on 03/04/2009 11:38:44 AM PST by EveningStar

If you take your kids to see "The Watchmen," you're a moron...

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TOPICS: Society; TV/Movies
KEYWORDS: debbieschlussel; depravity; horror; immorality; moralabsolutes; notaste; watchmen
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To: a fool in paradise

But it is rated R. The only parents who will take their kids to see this are idiots! This is as much of a kids movie as “sin city”. Both are based on graphic novles and both are rated R. If the parents take their kids to see this movie, it’s their own fault.
That said, I will be in a theater watching this movie at midnight on Friday morning. The novel entertained me enough that I will enjoy seeing it.


61 posted on 03/04/2009 12:21:21 PM PST by chae (I am karmic retribution)
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To: EveningStar

Action figures aren’t just for kids anymore either. Not since Todd McFarlane figured out how to make some real money.


62 posted on 03/04/2009 12:22:09 PM PST by razorboy
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To: a fool in paradise

Haven’t read the original or seen the movie but I read somewhere that Moore wrote it because he was terrified and hated Reagan. Was that the case?


63 posted on 03/04/2009 12:22:29 PM PST by Alcibiades ("First come smiles, then lies. Last is gunfire"--Roland Deschain)
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To: razorboy

They are for kids if you remove them from the packaging. Collectors leave their toys sealed.


64 posted on 03/04/2009 12:23:23 PM PST by a fool in paradise ("Do you know the website number?" - VP Joe Biden)
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To: EveningStar

Yawn. More cornball superhero pablum.


65 posted on 03/04/2009 12:25:44 PM PST by Antoninus (It's a sad time when Pravda's reporting is more reliable than anything in the major US media.)
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To: Alcibiades

Messages I got had more to do with the nature of humanity, the futility of trying to solve ALL of the worlds problems at once, and how far some people will go to achieve their own ends...


66 posted on 03/04/2009 12:28:08 PM PST by Dead Corpse (Te odeo, interfice te cochleare)
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To: a fool in paradise

I never bought any Charlton Comics. Had I known Steve Ditko was doing the ? and Capt. Atom I most certainly would have.

Kirby may have been the king, but I always liked Ditko.


67 posted on 03/04/2009 12:28:46 PM PST by LeavingNewYork
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To: a fool in paradise

Collectors love them sealed, but not all the grownups that buy are true collectors. I can walk through tech support and see lots of money that went to Todd and none of its in the packaging.


68 posted on 03/04/2009 12:31:04 PM PST by razorboy
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To: Alcibiades
http://dir.salon.com/story/books/int/2004/07/22/moore/index2.html

When it comes to our current wars for democracy and struggles for identity, Moore has more than a few words to say about George W. Bush, Tony Blair, comics, Ronald Reagan, "Friends," holy wars, quantum leaps and his own peculiar place in cultural history. I spoke to him by telephone from his home in England.

I find quite a few similarities between the fascist dystopia of your early work, "V for Vendetta," and our current political situation.

Well, the one thing with writing stories about the rise of fascism is that if you wait long enough, you'll almost certainly be proved right. Fascism is like a hydra -- you can cut off its head in the Germany of the '30s and '40s, but it'll still turn up on your back doorstep in a slightly altered guise. I'd agree that the current situation is particularly alarming. I tend to think that this momentum seems to have sprung up entirely from a group of largely discredited, extreme right-wingers who have been skulking in the shadows since the Ford administration and have suddenly come into the light of day surrounding George W. Bush. I think they've overreached themselves, at least I hope that.

And I really hope that people are not morally lazy or weak enough to elect this guy; I won't say "again" because he wasn't elected the first time. And it is true to say that across the world there is quite a lot of anti-America sentiment, which is different than anti-American sentiment. I think that even in the majority of Muslim countries that have been polled, nobody blames Americans -- they blame George Bush and the people surrounding him. Mind you, we'll see what happens this November, because you can have someone take over your country once and still have it be an accident. But twice? Well, that would be regrettable. [Laughs.]

TV and politics have always made inevitable bedfellows, but the results have been disastrous. Look at the situation we have now. Let's say that tomorrow someone who is a political genius were to emerge -- and I'm not expecting this to happen, but say that it did. Say that a politician emerged who seemed, for once, basically competent, who seemed to be able to do their job as well as the average cab driver, comic writer or journalist. If they were the most intelligent, visionary, humane political thinker in the history of mankind, but were also fat, had some sort of blemish or something that made them less than telegenic, we would not be able to elect them. All we're able to elect are these telegenic, photogenic crypto-Nazis. As long as they look good. I suppose it's too early to go into my rant on Ronald Reagan? That would be tasteless.

Actually, I was going to mention him. Especially his recent sanctification by America's television news media.

[Laughs.] Well then, OK. You've got Ronald Reagan -- the much eulogized, recently deceased former president -- who everyone seems to have forgotten was regarded as one of the most low and treacherous individuals by those in Hollywood that he sold out to the McCarthy hearings. This is someone whose response to the AIDS epidemic was probably responsible for hundreds of thousands of deaths worldwide. This is someone who created Saddam Hussein and Osama bin Laden, or at least set in motion the policies that would create these creatures. This was the architect of much of the world's present misery. Why did we elect him? Because he had been in a lot of films that some quite liked. We thought him an honorable man because in his films he played a lot of honorable men. I believe there are some who believed he had an outstanding war record. Even Ronald Reagan himself talked with misty eyes about the time he liberated concentration camps, which he may have done in a movie. But Ronald Reagan was out of World War II, fortunately for him, because of ill health. So all of his memories of military service came from movies. I've got to say that there are probably better people to elect than film stars...

Alan Moore can write some interesting comic books but it doesn't change the fact that he's a conspiracy minded liberal bigot. Maybe the biggest reason to hold off on seeing this movie is to deny him and Hollywood $$$.

69 posted on 03/04/2009 12:32:28 PM PST by a fool in paradise ("Do you know the website number?" - VP Joe Biden)
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To: razorboy

Lol. So true.


70 posted on 03/04/2009 12:34:35 PM PST by chae (I am karmic retribution)
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To: Dead Corpse
It’s Rated R for fricks sake...

Totally irrelevant to a significant number of movie attendees. My children's friends have often talked about R-rated movies they've seen.

71 posted on 03/04/2009 12:36:15 PM PST by Tax-chick ("There are more enjoyable ways of going to Hell." ~ St. Bernard)
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To: copaliscrossing

Is nc17 worse than R.
Im behind in the times i guess.

Was : G/ M /R / X


72 posted on 03/04/2009 12:36:48 PM PST by urtax$@work (The best kind of memorial is a Burning Memorial.........)
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To: a fool in paradise

Again, that’s not Hollywood folks... Watchmen was a graphic novel published a while ago, had nothing to do with Hollywood.

If you think the watchmen is kiddie fair, you are just an abject idiot.


73 posted on 03/04/2009 12:38:16 PM PST by HamiltonJay
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To: urtax$@work

NC17 replaced X. They didn’t trademark X, which is why the porn industry adopted XXX so then to finally separate themselves from porn they invented (and trademarked) NC17.


74 posted on 03/04/2009 12:38:30 PM PST by razorboy
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To: HamiltonJay

I don’t get how the Hollywood comment relates to the Charlton comic book characters. They are the model for all of the characters in Alan Moore’s Watchman comic mini-series (it was not a “graphic novel” until it was collected after serialization).


75 posted on 03/04/2009 12:40:27 PM PST by a fool in paradise ("Do you know the website number?" - VP Joe Biden)
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To: a fool in paradise
I didn't realize he wrote V as well.

It's funny how two people from different ideological backgrounds can watch the same movie and see different things. To me V was about fighting communism and totalitarianism to a liberal they see it as someone fighting fascism and conservatism.

76 posted on 03/04/2009 12:41:16 PM PST by Alcibiades ("First come smiles, then lies. Last is gunfire"--Roland Deschain)
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To: razorboy

XXX was the marketing idea of ONE man who ran an ad with the slogan “too much sex for just one X”.

There is no “triple-X” rating.


77 posted on 03/04/2009 12:41:30 PM PST by a fool in paradise ("Do you know the website number?" - VP Joe Biden)
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To: Alcibiades

It was anti-Reagan and anti-Thatcher.


78 posted on 03/04/2009 12:41:56 PM PST by a fool in paradise ("Do you know the website number?" - VP Joe Biden)
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To: EveningStar

What kind of parent takes a child to an “R” rated action movie?


79 posted on 03/04/2009 12:42:48 PM PST by Snickering Hound
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To: a fool in paradise

Right, that’s what I tried (but apparently failed) to indicate. Because the MPAA failed to trademark X (an odd mistake because they TMed their other ratings) the smut industry got to use XXX as marketing. Which angered the MPAA but once you let that kind of cat out of the bag there’s no putting it back.


80 posted on 03/04/2009 12:44:02 PM PST by razorboy
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