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The "Hung Drawn and Quartered: Pub, London, U.K.
My travel to London, U.K. ^ | August 29, 2009 | Myself

Posted on 08/29/2009 11:14:03 AM PDT by BobNative

Interesting name for an Establishment during these times in the United States.


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1 posted on 08/29/2009 11:14:04 AM PDT by BobNative
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To: BobNative

I think a good keel hauling should be added as the first step.


2 posted on 08/29/2009 11:23:01 AM PDT by Paladin2 (Big Ears + Big Spending --> BigEarMarx, the man behind TOTUS)
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To: BobNative

Here it is. It looks like a former Red Cross building.

3 posted on 08/29/2009 11:24:30 AM PDT by Albion Wilde ("A cultural problem cannot be solved with a political solution." -- Selwyn Duke)
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To: Albion Wilde
Isn't the red cross on white background also the "St. George's Cross"?

Regardless, It looks like a nice place to have a pint or two. I'm sure all the "Asians" in London can't stand its presence - which makes it all the more appealing to me. I say, put them in the Tower. Make them part of the tour. ;-)

4 posted on 08/29/2009 11:47:28 AM PDT by Charles Martel (NRA Lifetime Member since 1984; TSRA rookie)
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To: Charles Martel
If you add the Cross of St. Andrew to the Cross of St. George and put them on a blue background you have the Union Jack:


5 posted on 08/29/2009 11:52:41 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (Don't anthropomorphize the robots. They hate that.)
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To: BobNative
If they are referring to capital punishment, the correct word would be hanged, and not hung.
6 posted on 08/29/2009 12:04:29 PM PDT by OldSpice
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To: Albion Wilde; All

“It looks like a former Red Cross building.”

That’s the City of London shield which forms part of the coat of arms of the City.

City of London shield

http://tinyurl.com/m4859r

City of London

“The City of London is a geographically small city within Greater London in England. It is the historic core of London around which, along with Southwark and then Westminster, the modern conurbation grew. The City’s boundaries have remained almost constant since the Middle Ages, and hence it is now only a tiny part of the much larger London metropolis. It is often referred to as the City or the Square Mile, as it is just over one square mile (1.12 mile² / 2.90 km²)[1] in area. These terms are also often used as metonyms for the United Kingdom’s financial services industry, which is based here.”

http://tinyurl.com/7w527


7 posted on 08/29/2009 12:06:13 PM PDT by Fenhalls555
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To: OldSpice
If they are referring to capital punishment, the correct word would be hanged, and not hung.


Wasn't the “capital punishment” bit an incidental to the overall action?

I thought the subject person was hung alive and then drawn (entrails removed?) and finally quartered... the capital punishment was an incidental effect.

8 posted on 08/29/2009 12:41:14 PM PDT by az_gila (AZ - need less democrats - one Governor down... more to go.)
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To: BobNative

My hubby and I went there a few years ago. Had a great beer there. Did you see the quote from Peeyps (sp) inscribed on the side of the building? I have the picture of it, but don’t know how to post pictures to threads.


9 posted on 08/29/2009 12:53:03 PM PDT by navymom1
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To: All

Here is the inscription from the side of The Hung Drawn and Quartered.

“I went to see General Harrison Hung Drawn and Quartered. He was looking as cheerful as any man could in that condition.”

Samuel Pepys
The date was October 13 sixteen-hundred and something.

Incidentally, you can purchase t-shirts inside. Both kids got one! LOL

Hey, thanks for the great memory!


10 posted on 08/29/2009 12:58:39 PM PDT by navymom1
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To: navymom1

October 13 has been an infamous date, going back to Friday, October 13, 1307.

We sometimes forget how brutal the world can be.


11 posted on 08/29/2009 1:05:19 PM PDT by Texas Fossil (The last time I looked, this is still Texas where I live.)
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To: Fenhalls555
That’s the City of London shield which forms part of the coat of arms of the City.

Thank you! You learn something every day on FR!

12 posted on 08/29/2009 2:10:09 PM PDT by Albion Wilde ("A cultural problem cannot be solved with a political solution." -- Selwyn Duke)
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To: OldSpice
If they are referring to capital punishment, the correct word would be hanged, and not hung.

Apparently "hung" is a direct quote from Samuel Pepys' diary.

13 posted on 08/29/2009 2:15:49 PM PDT by Albion Wilde ("A cultural problem cannot be solved with a political solution." -- Selwyn Duke)
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To: Albion Wilde

“Apparently “hung” is a direct quote from Samuel Pepys’ diary.”

I thought that was a bit odd when I first saw it, so I checked it out. This is what Pepys actually wrote:

“To my Lord’s in the morning, where I met with Captain Cuttance, but my Lord not being up I went out to Charing Cross, to see Major- general Harrison hanged, drawn, and quartered; which was done there, he looking as cheerful as any man could do in that condition.”

http://tinyurl.com/n374t9

Here’s a pic of the sign:

http://tinyurl.com/nz8sdh

If you are interested in getting a taste of Pepys’ Diary without nodding off (I apologise if you’ve read the entire work already!), I highly recommend this audiobook (the excellent Kenneth Branagh is the narrator):

http://tinyurl.com/lz3vw2


14 posted on 08/29/2009 4:57:39 PM PDT by Fenhalls555
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To: az_gila; Albion Wilde

From WiKi, but with the links to the citations on the page:

Until reformed under the Treason Act 1814, the full punishment for the crime of treason was to be hanged, drawn and quartered in that the condemned prisoner would be:

1. Dragged on a hurdle (a wooden frame) to the place of execution. This is one possible meaning of drawn.

2. Hanged by the neck for a short time or until almost dead (hanged).

3. Disembowelled and emasculated and the genitalia and entrails burned before the condemned’s eyes.

4. The body divided into four parts, then beheaded (quartered).

Typically, the resulting five parts (i.e. the four quarters of the body and the head) were gibbeted (put on public display) in different parts of the city, town, or, in famous cases, in the country, to deter would-be traitors who had not seen the execution. After 1814, the convict would be hanged until dead and the mutilation would be performed post-mortem. Gibbeting was later abolished in England in 1843, while drawing and quartering was abolished in 1870.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanged,_drawn_and_quartered


15 posted on 08/29/2009 5:37:11 PM PDT by OldSpice
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To: OldSpice
You are correct... my mistake on the exception to “hung” for executions only...:^)

From the Oxford English Dictionary -

— USAGE In modern English hang has two past tense and past participle forms: hanged and hung. Sometime after the 16th century hung replaced the earlier form hanged in general contexts, as in they hung out the washing, while hanged was, as it still is, retained for use in reference to execution by hanging, as in the prisoner was hanged.

— ORIGIN Old English.

16 posted on 08/29/2009 10:35:49 PM PDT by az_gila (AZ - need less democrats - one Governor down... more to go.)
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To: Fenhalls555

Why, thank you. I had googled the quote and had seen it quoted as “hung”; there is a lot of misinformation on the Intertubes.


17 posted on 08/30/2009 8:12:26 AM PDT by Albion Wilde ("A cultural problem cannot be solved with a political solution." -- Selwyn Duke)
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