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Brett Favre, Michael Vick and the Politics of Sports
Politics Daily ^ | 8/31/09 | Matt Lewis

Posted on 08/31/2009 8:41:17 AM PDT by OneVike

Edited on 08/31/2009 8:55:53 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

Football season is right around the corner, and two big stories have dominated the run-up to it: The return of Brett Favre and Michael Vick.

Vick, of course, is returning to football after serving a prison sentence for a dog-fighting conviction. Favre is an aging legend destined for the Hall of Fame, so his coming out of retirement (again) would be notable under any circumstances. But his return this year is especially noteworthy because of the team he has chosen to play for. The Minnesota Vikings, of course, are the dreaded and hated arch-enemies of his old team, the Green Bay Packers.


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To: OneVike
Well, I'm stuck with him now. I have no choice, but to cheer for him.

I felt the exact same way when Terrell Owens became a Cowboy.
21 posted on 08/31/2009 9:44:21 AM PDT by BJClinton (One Big Ass Mistake America)
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To: altura

Ugh...Romo is a dirty word in our house. Hubby got up during the game, said “No Mo’ Romo!” and walked out of the house, LOL!


22 posted on 08/31/2009 9:46:43 AM PDT by ravingnutter
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To: SoldierDad

The schism in your wife’s family is happening all over Wisconsin and Packer fans, but the Chico boy Rodgers will do good. By the end of the year he will have the packer fans eating out of his hands. That kid is going to be a head ache for the NFC North for the next ten years or more. My guess is he will retire with a couple SB trophies.

Hate to admit it, but he is real good. He is better than Favre ever was. Favre was always real easy to rattle, that is why he never did very well in the Dome. Too loud and then the defense would do the rest and before long he was throwing ints to the wrong players.

Remember, a majority of the Packers seasons ended with Favre throwing interceptions as he tried to do it all. He never has been a real good team player, he has always been about Favre. The antics he pulled this past summer and the way he skipped training camp just to join after he saw we had a good team after the first Pre-season game says it all.

I will have to cheer him as I said, but mark my words, by the 10th game of the season he will be forcing things and losing games, just as he did with the Jets last year and the Packers in their last NFC championship game.

I am afraid that the Packer fans will be having the last laugh as Rodgers wins the division and takes them farther than Favre does the Vikings.

Ask me after the season starts and I will deny I said any of this. As a matter of fact, this comment will self destruct at the beginning if the season when I become a dies hard swallow the Kool-aid Viking again and I again lose all sense of objectivity.

I am after all a Viking to my death.

Go Vikings!


23 posted on 08/31/2009 9:51:22 AM PDT by OneVike (Just a Christian waiting to go home)
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To: OneVike

I put them all in the same pot. Sports teams, with billionnaire owners, and millionnaire players, blackmail politicians into robbing the taxpayers to build their stadiums for them. A pox on all of them.


24 posted on 08/31/2009 9:51:28 AM PDT by Daveinyork
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To: vikzilla

LOL - that’s funny. I grew up in North CA, so I was raised a 49er fan (43 years now). I met my wife in N. Dakota (stationed at Minot AFB). That’s the Viking connection - Minnesota is the closest pro team. I’m not sure how the rest of her family globbed onto the Packers.


25 posted on 08/31/2009 10:13:32 AM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud Dad of a U.S. Army Infantry Soldier whose wife is expecting twins.)
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To: OneVike

Having watched Rodgers playing youth football and high school football (he played youth football with my sons), I’m not so optomistic about his long term career. We’ll have to wait and see. He also has a tendency to become rattled in the pocket, but that might go away with experience. It will also depend upon the tools he has in his running backs and receivers. A QB can’t do everything as evidenced by Farve’s post-season performances.


26 posted on 08/31/2009 10:16:52 AM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud Dad of a U.S. Army Infantry Soldier whose wife is expecting twins.)
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To: SoldierDad

Interesting, what kind of attitude does he have. I have heard his younger brother is a bit of a premadaona.(sp?)


27 posted on 08/31/2009 10:26:35 AM PDT by OneVike (Just a Christian waiting to go home)
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To: Daveinyork

Do you think Heinlein saw the irony in him (an entertainer) saying that?


28 posted on 08/31/2009 10:31:19 AM PDT by discostu (When I'm walking a dark road I am a man who walks alone)
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To: discostu

“Do you think Heinlein saw the irony in him (an entertainer) saying that?”

Who knows? But, I never got the impression that he took himself too seriously.


29 posted on 08/31/2009 10:35:43 AM PDT by Daveinyork
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To: Daveinyork

I don’t know about that. Heinlein made a lot of bold declarations about how things should be and how people should behave. Certainly enjoyed his celebrity status and the pulpit it gave him.


30 posted on 08/31/2009 10:41:17 AM PDT by discostu (When I'm walking a dark road I am a man who walks alone)
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To: OneVike

Wow. Proclaiming Aaron Rogers a sure shot HoFer with a grand total of one full season behind center? A guy with 59 passes in the NFL prior to last season. Led his team to a grand total of 6 victories last year.

But I know what you’re really up to. Trying to get the pack to be overconfident. Very clever.


31 posted on 08/31/2009 10:57:36 AM PDT by dmz
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To: OneVike

Just a question OneVike - you stated throwing int’s to the wrong players. How do you throw an int to the right player? ;-)


32 posted on 08/31/2009 11:05:29 AM PDT by 7thson (I've got a seat at the big conference table! I'm gonna paint my logo on it!)
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To: 7thson; dmz
DMZ, you caught onto my ploy, busted....LOL

7thson, Just a question OneVike - you stated throwing int’s to the wrong players. How do you throw an int to the right player? ;-)

I really do need to read my comments a lot closer in the future, But if you must know it is like this.

When an apposing QB throws a pass and my team intercepts, but the player who picked the pass off does not return it for a TD, then the QB obviously threw an int to the wrong player.

So to get myself out of this obvious corner I have peinted myself in, I would conclude that,
A.) Not only did the QB miss his own player with the pass, but
B.) He also missed the guy who could have returned it for 7. Thus
C.) Said QB threw an int to the wrong player, and so
D.) Bret Favre does something only he can do, and that is throw the pass to the wrong player twice in the same play.

There, I like that, and it only took me about 20 minutes to figure that out. Hey, I have been hating on Favre for a very long time.
33 posted on 08/31/2009 11:24:16 AM PDT by OneVike (Just a Christian waiting to go home)
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To: OneVike

It tends to run in the family I think. He was always respectful with adults, but peers - not so much.


34 posted on 08/31/2009 11:43:42 AM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud Dad of a U.S. Army Infantry Soldier whose wife is expecting twins.)
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To: OneVike
LOL.

Your ABCD construction reminds me of a paper I read as a philosophy student in the late 70s, Gettier's Is Justified True Belief Knowledge wherein the necessary conditions are established that allow one to say that they know something.

Thanks for the headache :-)

35 posted on 08/31/2009 12:05:15 PM PDT by dmz
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To: OneVike

I love it! 8-)


36 posted on 08/31/2009 12:05:45 PM PDT by 7thson (I've got a seat at the big conference table! I'm gonna paint my logo on it!)
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To: BertWheeler

When did it become a “traditional American value” to sign up with one’s arch-rival? “Betrayal” seems a better word for it.


37 posted on 08/31/2009 12:17:23 PM PDT by SoothingDave
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To: dmz

No problem, really. :>)

I grew up in Duluth which is right on the border of Minn and Wisc. I spent many a day justifying my Vikings against half my friends who were packer fans in such ways. It was kind of like trying to find new and better disgusting ways to insult each others parents.

It really was a lesson that should have prepared me for journalism or politics, but alas I would rather have cheered for the packers than ever joining one of those professions.

All joking aside, my season of football enjoyment is only truly complete if my Vikings prevail against the packers, at least in Green Bay. OK, I like watching them lose always, even to the Cowboys which I hate with a passion that I fear may even send me to hell.

Well, er, ah, right next to the disgust I feel for the Steelers, Raiders, Dolphins, and Chiefs.

I really am not bitter, it just takes awhile for me to get over a loss. LOL


38 posted on 08/31/2009 12:31:37 PM PDT by OneVike (Just a Christian waiting to go home)
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To: SoldierDad

So do you think that will inevitably cause trouble with his teammates? I mean one can hope anyway.


39 posted on 08/31/2009 12:32:55 PM PDT by OneVike (Just a Christian waiting to go home)
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To: SoothingDave

Very true.


40 posted on 08/31/2009 12:35:38 PM PDT by BertWheeler (Dance and the world dances with you...)
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