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NAZIS SAY WARSAW IS ENCIRCLED (9/13/39)
Microfiche-New York Times archives, McHenry Library, U.C. Santa Cruz | 9/13/39 | Percy Knauth, G.H. Archambault

Posted on 09/13/2009 6:21:18 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson

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TOPICS: History
KEYWORDS: milhist; realtime; worldwarii
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Free Republic University, Department of History presents World War II Plus 70 Years: Seminar and Discussion Forum
First session: September 1, 2009. Last date to add: September 2, 2015.
Reading assignment: New York Times articles delivered daily to students on the 70th anniversary of original publication date. (Previously posted articles can be found by searching on keyword “realtime”.)
To add this class to or drop it from your schedule notify Admissions and Records (Attn: Homer_J_Simpson) by freepmail. Those on the Realtime +/- 70 Years ping list are automatically enrolled. Course description, prerequisites and tuition information is available at the bottom of Homer’s profile.
1 posted on 09/13/2009 6:21:19 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson
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A key to the map symbols is on my profile.

2 posted on 09/13/2009 6:21:57 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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Chopin’s Polonaise in A, Op.40 No.1, ' Military '
3 posted on 09/13/2009 6:22:31 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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To: r9etb; PzLdr; dfwgator; Paisan; From many - one.; rockinqsranch; GRRRRR; 2banana; henkster; ...
Germans Advance – 2-6
The Developments in Europe – 3
Incidents in European Conflict – 4
Gain Made in West – 7-9
Berle Warns Trade Boom is Temporary – 8
Nazis Hint ‘Purge’ of Jews in Poland – 10
16th British Ship Sunk by Germans – 11
Nazi Air Defenses Called ‘Appalling’ - 12
4 posted on 09/13/2009 6:23:31 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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I like the article about the Japanese asking the Soviets for a peaceful agreement on the Manchurian frontier. Zhukov apparently had changed their minds.


5 posted on 09/13/2009 6:35:31 AM PDT by mainepatsfan
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I wish I had saved the rest of the article. Maybe it gave a hint as to what happened with Gen. Umazu’s predecessor as CiC of Japanese Forces in Manchukuo. Did he resign for personal reasons? Was he laid low by accident or illness? Had he been despondent of late? Maybe he had just completed the usual tour of duty and was rotated back to Japan for staff duty.


6 posted on 09/13/2009 7:29:35 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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bump


7 posted on 09/13/2009 8:08:41 AM PDT by beebuster2000
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To: Homer_J_Simpson
I doubt Japanese sources would have felt chatty to the New York Times correspondent about what happened to the disgraced general.

According to Wikipedia, Michitaro Komatsubara committed suicide, but only in October, 1940.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michitar%C5%8D_Komatsubara

8 posted on 09/13/2009 8:38:38 AM PDT by Cheburashka (Stephen Decatur: you want barrels of gunpowder as tribute, you must expect cannonballs with it.)
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"BERLE WARNS TRADE BOOM IS TEMPORARY

After War, Need for Economic Revision Remains, He says"

"In the first address by an Administration spokesman here since the outbreak of war in Europe, AA Berle Jr., Assistant Secretary of State, declared last night that any war boom was only a temporary interruption of the more pressing problem of how our economic structure was to be reorganized to care for the large groups for whom private initiative is unable to provide. He warned therefore that business must not relax its search for the most effective method of meeting that problem...

"Nearly all industry, he said, depended for its existence on some form of privilege granted by government, such as tariffs, government subsidy, government buying, territorial monopoly and sales to companies enjoying such privileges..."

That's what's so infuriating about the FDR administration. Those folks really were a bunch of socialists, with no clues on how to make a strong economy. Indeed, for them a "strong economy" was the enemy, only tolerable during times of national emergency.

Did you ever wonder where our current Nobama administration gets its marching orders? Look no further. It's right here.

9 posted on 09/13/2009 10:15:50 AM PDT by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective...)
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NAZIS HINT 'PURGE' OF JEWS IN POLAND

'Special Report' From Invaded Region Discusses Possible Solution of Problem

GROUP EUROPE'S LARGEST

3,000,000 Population Involved -- 'Removal' From Europe Viewed as Benefit

Berlin, Sept 12 -- "First intimations that a "solution of the Jewish problem" in Poland is on the German-Polish agenda are revealed in a "special report" of the official German News Bureau..."

We should note here, the Nazis attempted a number of interim "solutions to the Jewish problem," before settling, in 1941 on the "Final Solution."

At this particular point, September 1939, most historians suggest it was the Polish leadership -- political, military, intellectuals, Catholic clergy, etc. -- which suffered the most.

10 posted on 09/13/2009 10:26:48 AM PDT by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective...)
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"NAZI AIR DEFENSES CALLED 'APPALLING'

British Report Leaflet Raids Show Weakness of Detectors, Searchlights and Batteries

APPROACH NOT REGISTERRED

Defenders Did Not Become Active Until Pamphlets Had Fluttered to Ground"

LONDON, Sept 12 (UPI) -- Aviation experts asserted today that Roytal Air Force leaflet raids over Germany had given the greatest satisfaction to the highest British circles because they indicated most strongly that Germany's ground defenses, such as detectors, searchlights and aircraft batteries, were at present "appalling."

You just gotta wonder -- what in the world planet were those people living on? Maybe they could be even more helpful to the Germans -- send them plans for radar or something?

11 posted on 09/13/2009 10:36:30 AM PDT by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective...)
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More from "Berle Warns Trade Boom is Temporary."

He cited the reorganization of the economic life of Great Britain in time of war as proof that individual preferences could be subjugated to the national need. . . . A similar reorganization would be possible here, he held, and asked why it was not possible to expend equal care, study and sacrifice to the less tragic objective of the national well-being.

Never let a crisis go to waste. And what business is any of this of an assistant Secretary of State? This is a scary little item.

12 posted on 09/13/2009 11:11:57 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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We should note here, the Nazis attempted a number of interim "solutions to the Jewish problem," before settling, in 1941 on the "Final Solution."

Parts of the interim solution sound pretty final to me.

Jews are accused of having plundered Polish towns and villages without regard for the watchfulness of the German soldiers and field police, who the "special report" continues, "caught many of them, inflicting the punishment they deserved." Looting in territory under martial law is punished by death.

Polish Jewish women whose husbands were arrested at the scenes of their alleged plundering are "accused of having endeavored to entice German guards into setting their husbands free."

Enticing German guards is also a capital crime, I imagine.

13 posted on 09/13/2009 11:35:08 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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Contrast the horror suggested by “Nazis Hint ‘Purge’ of Jews in Poland” with the martial-inspired hair styles pictured in #13. Do you think the American public is having a hard time assimilating the news at this point? I’ll bet by 1943 the novelty will be gone and the horror will be better grasped.


14 posted on 09/13/2009 11:49:48 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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Nazis Hint ‘Purge’ of Jews in Poland – 10

It was chilling to read this, the world indeed did know what was going to happen, even then.

15 posted on 09/13/2009 11:53:13 AM PDT by dfwgator
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Got a Mr. Frank on line 1 who wants to know more about the “gay social events” in the St. George Hotel ad.


16 posted on 09/13/2009 12:59:06 PM PDT by Larry Lucido (This tagline excerpted. To read more, click on MyOverratedBlog.com)
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Have him report to the steam room.


17 posted on 09/13/2009 1:11:02 PM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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To: Cheburashka; All

“According to Wikipedia, Michitaro Komatsubara committed suicide, but only in October, 1940.”

An interesting story behind this...

Komatsubara wanted Lt. Col. Ioki, the armoured forces commander, to take responsibility for the defeat of the Japanese forces at Zhukov’s hands, instead of himself, and urged he commit suicide.

Ioki refused, stating his forces had been surrounded by over 100 tanks, and pounded by over 30,000 artillery shells a day, for several days, held out as long a humanly possible before running out of ammunition and withdrawing.

Anything else would have been suicide, and resulted in the destruction of his entire force, he claimed. he DID NOT commit suicide, like so many other commanders did that day, when faced by over-whelming Soviet Forces.

Anyway, after a TON of psycological pressure from Komatsubara, and wounded himself, Ioki committed suicide, but STILl would not take responsibility for the loss.

Capt. Siuji Kiyoshi, the 27th Regiment Artlillery Commander, was also pressured in to ritual suicide by Komatsubara. He was among the first officers to reccomend withdrawal, and saved Ioki from death. Other officers would suffer the same fate.

This idealism would cost the IJA a great deal many experienced and competent officers over the next years. And Komatsubara himself would later succumb to his own shame, after being paid in to the Reserves for his failure.


18 posted on 09/13/2009 1:21:53 PM PDT by tcrlaf ("Hope" is the most Evil of all Evils"-Neitzsche)
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“I’ll bet by 1943 the novelty will be gone and the horror will be better grasped.”

Actually, it wasn’t until Early-1944, when the telegrams started coming home by the Bushel-box, that the War weariness began to set in...


19 posted on 09/13/2009 1:25:29 PM PDT by tcrlaf ("Hope" is the most Evil of all Evils"-Neitzsche)
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To: Homer_J_Simpson

AIR LOSSES-13 September, 1939

13-SEP-1939 Dornier Do 18 M2+LK Luftwaffe near Island Ameland
13-SEP-1939 Dornier Do 18 Luftwaffe near island Helgoland, North Sea
13-SEP-1939 Vickers Wellesley Mk.1 L2702 RAF 47 Sqn. Khartoum


20 posted on 09/13/2009 1:29:09 PM PDT by tcrlaf ("Hope" is the most Evil of all Evils"-Neitzsche)
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