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Could a 1.8 Gigayear Technology Gap Exist? (The Weekend Feature/A Galaxy Classic)
DailyGalaxy ^ | October 03, 2009 | Posted by Rebecca Sato with Casey Kazan.

Posted on 10/13/2009 8:14:47 PM PDT by Michael Barnes

Minims-vatican-observatory (1) Are we the lone sentient life in the universe? So far, we have no evidence to the contrary, and yet the odds that not one single other planet has evolved intelligent life would appear, from a statistical standpoint, to be quite small. There are an estimated 250 billion (2.5 x 10¹¹ ) stars in the Milky Way alone, and over 70 sextillion (7 x 10²² ) in the visible universe, and many of them are surrounded by multiple planets. 

Meanwhile, our 4.5 billion-year old Solar System exits in a universe that is estimated to be between 13.5 and 14 billion years old. Experts believe that there could be advanced civilizations out there that have existed for 1.8 gigayears (one gigayear = one billion years). 

The odds of there being only one single planet that evolved life among all that unfathomable vastness seems so incredible that it is all but completely irrational to believe. But then "where are they?" asked physicist Enrico Fermi while having lunch with his colleagues in 1950.

Fermi reasoned, if there are other advanced extraterrestrial civilizations, then why is there no evidence of such, like spacecraft or probes floating around the Milky Way. His question became famously known as the Fermi Paradox. The paradox is the contradiction between the high estimates of the probability of the existence of extraterrestrial civilizations and yet the lack of evidence for, or contact with, any such civilizations.

Given the extreme age of the universe, and its vast number of stars, if planets like Earth are at all typical, then there should be many advanced extraterrestrial civilizations out there, and at least a few in our own Milky Way. Another closely related question is the Great Silence, which poses the question: Even if space travel is too difficult, if life is out there, why don't we at least detect some sign of civilization like radio transmissions?

Milan Cirkovic of the Astronomical Observatory in Belgrade, points out that the median age of terrestrial planets in the Milky Way is about 1.8 gigayears greater than the age of the Earth and the Solar System, which means that the median age of technological civilizations should be greater than the age of human civilization by the same amount. The vastness of this interval indicates that one or more processes must suppress observability of extraterrestrial communities.

Since at this point, there is no direct and/or widely apparent evidence that extraterrestrial life exists, it likely means one of the following:

We are (A) the first intelligent beings ever to become capable of making our presence known, and leaving our planet. At this point, there are no other life forms out there as advanced as us. Or perhaps extraterrestrial life does exists, but for some reason extraterrestrial life is so very rare and so very far away we’ll never make contact anyway—making extraterrestrial life nonexistent in a practical sense at least.

Or is it (B) that many advanced civilizations have existed before us, but without exception, they have for some unknown reason, existed and/or expanded in such a way that they are completely undetectable by our instruments.

Or is it (C) There have been others, but they have all run into some sort of “cosmic roadblock” that eventually destroys them, or at least prevents their expansion beyond a small area.

Then ancients once believed that Earth was the center of the universe. We now know that Earth isn’t even at the center of the Solar System. The Solar System is not at the center of our galaxy, and our galaxy is not in any special position in contrast to the rest of the known universe. From a scientific viewpoint, there is no apparent reason to believe that Earth enjoys some privileged status.

Since Earth’s placement in space and time appears to be unremarkably random, proposition “A” seems fairly unlikely. Assuming humans evolved like other forms of life into our present state due to natural selection, then there's really nothing all that mystical, special or remarkable about our development as a species either. Due to the shear numbers, there are almost certainly other planets capable of supporting at least some form of life. If that is so, then for Earthlings to be the very first species ever to make a noticeable mark on the universe, from a statistical perspective, is incredibly unlikely.

For proposition “B” to be correct would defy all logic. If potentially thousands, or even millions of advanced extraterrestrial civilizations exist in the known universe, then why would all of them, without exception, choose to expand or exist in such a way that they are completely undetectable? It’s conceivable that some might, or perhaps even the majority, but for all of them to be completely undetectable civilizations does not seem likely either.

Proposition C in some ways, appears to be more likely than A or B. If “survival of the fittest” follows similar pathways on other worlds, then our own “civilized” nature could be somewhat typical of extraterrestrial civilizations that have, or do, exist. Somehow, we all get to the point where we end up killing ourselves in a natural course of technological development and thereby self-inflict our own “cosmic roadblock”.

“Perhaps the most disturbing aspect of the Fermi Paradox is what it suggests for the future of our human civilization. Namely, that we have no future beyond earthly confinement and, quite possibly, extinction. Could advanced nanotechnology play a role in preventing that extinction? Or, more darkly, is it destined to be instrumental in carrying out humanity's unavoidable death sentence?” wonders Mike Treder, executive director of the Center for Responsible Nanotechnology (CRN).

Treder believes that some of the little understood new technologies now being developed such as nanotech, and others, could well be either our salvation or just as likely end up causing our ultimate destruction.

“Whatever civilizations have come before us have been unable to surpass the cosmic roadblock. They are either destroyed or limited in such a way that absolutely precludes their expansion into the visible universe. If that is indeed the case—and it would seem to be the most logical explanation for Fermi's Paradox—then there is some immutable law that we too must expect to encounter at some point. We are, effectively, sentenced to death or, at best, life in the prison of a near-space bubble,” suggests Treder. “Atomically-precise exponential manufacturing could enable such concentrations of unprecedented power as to result in either terminal warfare or permanent enslavement of the human race. Of course, that sounds terribly apocalyptic, but it is worth considering that the warnings we heard at the start of the nuclear arms race, and the very real risks we faced in the height of the Cold War, were but precursors to a much greater threat posed by an arms race involving nano-built weaponry and its accompanying tools of surveillance and control.”

When we consider the chronological history of life on Earth, humans have only existed for a small fragment of time and our existence has always been precarious. The entire time we’ve existed, we been banding into various groups and attempting to kill each other—or at least are constantly in the process of developing more effective ways of killing each other—just in case. The US government, for example, spends on “Defense” (including “preemptive” warfare) and Homeland Security, 8 times what it spends on educating the next generation. There is enough nuclear weaponry in storage around the world to kill every living creature on the planet several times over. Clearly, we’re a species with poor odds of surviving indefinitely.

Our self-destructive natures aside, curiosity may end up killing more than the cats. The faster technology is advancing, the more our “leap now, look later” nature appears to grow as well. If evolution on Earth serves as a somewhat typical template for evolution of other life forms, then becoming a truly advanced civilization must be a very daunting task indeed and a very rare, if not impossible, achievement.

In fact, Sir Martin Rees, Great Britain's Astronomer Royal and respected professor of astrophysics at Cambridge University has estimated that humans have only a 50-50 shot of making it through the 21st century. If Rees is right, and our standing on the planet is as precarious as he and others believe it is, then we may be alone due to a built-in evolutionary self-destruct button. Others have come before and others will exist after, but the cosmic roadblock may be an innate, finite nature, which only allows sentient life forms to exist for a very small window of time—windows of life which may be too small for our civilization to match up with the small windows of other civilizations that have been before or will come after.

In a contrary point of view, Milan Cirkovic believes that highly efficient city-state type of advanced technological civilizations could easily pass unnoticed even by much more advanced SETI equipment, especially if located near the Milky Way rim or other remote locations.

Posted by Rebecca Sato with Casey Kazan.

NASA Hubble Image is the Helix Nebula, also known as The Helix or NGC 7293, a large planetary nebula located in the constellation of Aquarius

Recommended Galaxy post:

Stephen Hawking: Why Isn't the Milky Way "Crawling With Self-Designing Mechanical or Biological Life?"


Links:
http://www.dailygalaxy.com/my_weblog/2007/07/sir-martin-rees.html
http://www.nanotech-now.com/columns/?article=149
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fermi_paradox



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To: Michael Barnes
Detecting signals from our civilization within very small distances (~250 c-y) requires an enormous antenna (~30 Km on a side). [The likelihood that Aricebo will ever detect a signal is extremely remote.] Even though it would be obvious that the carrier signal was not random, we would not be able to demodulate it even with an array that large. So, as much as anybody sensible should admire Fermi, there is no paradox: our ears are too small.

Turn it around, and add to this that we've only been broadcasting for ~100 y means no one farther out than 100 c-y can see us, yet, even if they have large arrays in space and better signal separation technology listening for us. We have no evidence that there are habitable planets within 100 c-y. Give it a couple of thousand years.

As for civilizations that boast a 1.8 Gy technology lead over us: maybe they've already been here and gone. Maybe we've met the aliens, and they are us. I believe this was Francis Crick's conjecture. We have no real theory of abiogenesis on this planet, yet. Maybe there's a reason.

21 posted on 10/13/2009 9:19:15 PM PDT by FredZarguna (It looks just like a Telefunken U-47. In leather.)
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To: FormerACLUmember

Incidentally, if the self-destruction scenario is true, given a fairly constant rate of development of new intelligent civilizations, then the odds of a civilization surviving are at least somewhat likely to go up over time, as you have civilizations figuring out that most previous civilizations must have self-destructed before them, and some therefore attempting to find ways to circumvent such self-destruction.


22 posted on 10/13/2009 9:22:03 PM PDT by john in springfield (One has to belong to the intelligentsia to believe such things.No ordinary man could be such a fool.)
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To: FredZarguna
So, as much as anybody sensible should admire Fermi, there is no paradox: our ears are too small.

So what you're saying is, our existing technology could likely only detect signals broadcast within 250 light years? If that's the case, then that would cover only about 1/25trillionth of just the Milky Way. That could kind of explain the Fermi Paradox right there.

23 posted on 10/13/2009 9:26:16 PM PDT by john in springfield (One has to belong to the intelligentsia to believe such things.No ordinary man could be such a fool.)
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To: Michael Barnes

Absence of evidence isn’t evidence of absence.


24 posted on 10/13/2009 9:31:43 PM PDT by RightOnTheLeftCoast (Cheney/Palin 2012!)
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To: Michael Barnes
But then "where are they?" asked physicist Enrico Fermi while having lunch with his colleagues in 1950.

Meanwhile, at exactly the same time, aircraft that were not made by humans were buzzing the White House and about 100 US Cities.

25 posted on 10/13/2009 9:33:34 PM PDT by Defiant (The absence of bias appears to be bias to those who are biased.)
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To: TorahTrueJew
Quoting HHGTTG: “Space is big... really big... I mean you just wouldn’t believe how mind bogglingly big it is. I mean, you might think it’s a long walk from your house to the chemist’s, but that’s just peanuts to space.”

Life is extremely rare. Even excluding the vastness of space, life in the Solar System is rare by many measures. One could measure the proportion of living mass or living volume to its non living counterparts in our local neighborhood and come up with very small numbers.

26 posted on 10/13/2009 9:35:08 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: Michael Barnes

Another possibility is that our SETI efforts are completely irrelevant to date. Our technology is too primitive to pick up interstellar communication.


27 posted on 10/13/2009 9:37:22 PM PDT by FormerACLUmember (When the past no longer illuminates the future, the spirit walks in darkness.)
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To: john in springfield
So what you're saying is, our existing technology could likely only detect signals broadcast within 250 light years? If that's the case, then that would cover only about 1/25trillionth of just the Milky Way. That could kind of explain the Fermi Paradox right there.

Even so, they would still know that there's a planet here which has life from about anywhere in the galaxy, and they would have known it for a very long time.

28 posted on 10/13/2009 9:38:15 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: Moonman62
Even so, they would still know that there's a planet here which has life from about anywhere in the galaxy, and they would have known it for a very long time.

Really? When there are billions of planets in the Milky Way, spread across 100,000 light years in 3 dimensions, and we've only been broadcasting long enough for our signals traveling at light speed to have even (weakly) reached 1/50trillionth of our galaxy?

Sorry, doesn't wash.

29 posted on 10/13/2009 9:55:07 PM PDT by john in springfield (One has to belong to the intelligentsia to believe such things.No ordinary man could be such a fool.)
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To: KevinDavis
PING
30 posted on 10/13/2009 10:00:05 PM PDT by Thunder90 (Fighting for truth and the American way... http://citizensfortruthandtheamericanway.blogspot.com/)
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To: campaignPete R-CT; Michael Barnes

>>>just plug that Drake equation into an excel spreadsheet .... life in other galaxies? definitely outside our area code.

Moreso because the Drake Equation is incomplete. Additional factors can and should be incorporated into the calculation. Factors which drastically reduce the chances of alien technical civilizations.

The only thing certain is that the Drake Equation only offers a starting point for thought. Not answers. Not a single element of the equation can yet be quantified.

Drakes calculation posits as if all solar systems are created equal, leaving the matter of life in all cases to the same random percentages. Without regard for position in the galaxy, be they in the spiral arms or the dense core. Regularity of solar emissions is ignored, when a 1% plus or minus in output makes the difference between ice ages and scorched world. Distribution of heavy metals in the galaxy. And several similar omissions.


31 posted on 10/13/2009 10:03:22 PM PDT by tlb
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To: Michael Barnes

Its pretty obvious that Extrateressials are here. The evidence is all around. You can’t even turn on the science channels without some UFO show on. Independence Day runs all the time.

Ed Mitchell talks about it here. The DJ is a flake and annoying.

http://www.livevideo.com/video/C50A...l-claims-u.aspx


32 posted on 10/13/2009 10:10:52 PM PDT by Diggity
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To: Diggity

That link was dead. This is the link to Ed Mitchell who was the sixth man to walk on the moon.

http://www.livevideo.com/video/C50A9CA5569C45BB8D28FCE6E525A63E/astronaut-ed-mitchell-claims-u.aspx


33 posted on 10/13/2009 10:14:34 PM PDT by Diggity
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To: tlb

How about the most simplistic answer of all: God created the Universe and decided to create humans on Earth—the rest of that stuff “out there” is for His amusement?
(don’t flame me, I’m a theology graduate)


34 posted on 10/13/2009 10:22:35 PM PDT by pankot
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To: Diggity

Folks with an interest in the topic might find this scientist intriguing..

http://wimp.com/aliensexist/

I love the analogy he draws of ant colonies next to the freeway.


35 posted on 10/13/2009 10:29:14 PM PDT by jabotinsky
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To: john in springfield

They wouldn’t have to wait for our signals. They would almost certainly be able to read the chemical composition of our atmosphere.


36 posted on 10/13/2009 10:46:23 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: john in springfield
So what you're saying is, our existing technology could likely only detect signals broadcast within 250 light years?

Not even close. Unless a signal is beamed directly at us, we cannot pick up a transmission further away than about 0.8 c-y. To reach 250 c-y, we would need an antenna array with area 10^3 km^2 (if square, 30 km on a side).

If that's the case, then that would cover only about 1/25trillionth of just the Milky Way.

Milky Way Galaxy has dimensions ~10^5 c-y diameter x 10^3 c-y thick. Roughly has area 8 x 10^12 c-y^3. If we could see out to 250 c-y, that would be a volume centered at the earth of around 6.5 x 10^7 c-y^3, so if we could see out to 250 c-y, we would cover only 1/120,000th of the galaxy. This is small, but not as small as your estimate.

37 posted on 10/13/2009 11:28:37 PM PDT by FredZarguna (It looks just like a Telefunken U-47. In leather.)
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To: tlb
I've been trying to tell people this for a long time. For life like ours, you really have a very small planetary composition and mass window. The planet has to be made mostly of metals, and it can't be too big or the mean free path of gas molecules is too short and you have too much hydrogen and hydrocarbons in the atmosphere. If it's too small, all the life supporting gas escapes. People don't understand how inert N2 is, and how important that is for mediating the role of O2.

You also have only a temperature window from about 280-325 K.

38 posted on 10/13/2009 11:38:27 PM PDT by FredZarguna (It looks just like a Telefunken U-47. In leather.)
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To: freedumb2003
You forgot (E) There are thousands of civilizations like ours. They are just too far away to make contact.

Why do people consistently think that we should be able to somehow communicate with planets thousands of light years is beyond me. If it takes light a thousand years to get there then we should expect a response in, say, two thousand years.

39 posted on 10/14/2009 6:07:02 AM PDT by raybbr (It's going to get a lot worse now that the anchor babies are voting!)
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To: tlb

why do these knuckleheaded authors keep talking about life in other galaxies (which I would think is completely irrelevant to this discussion)?


40 posted on 10/14/2009 6:20:58 AM PDT by campaignPete R-CT ("pray without ceasing" - Paul of Tarsus)
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