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85,000 reasons why Apple’s iPhone isn’t going to be disrupted
Scobleizer ^ | OCTOBER 25, 2009 | by ROBERT SCOBLE

Posted on 10/25/2009 11:25:20 PM PDT by Swordmaker

There’s nothing geeks love more than to argue mobile phone platforms. Here’s Matt Blaisdell saying that apps weren’t key to iPhone’s success. That’s true, but now that Apple has apps the world has changed and challengers to the iPhone will find it very tough.

Here’s why: everyone is using a different set of 20 apps. Trillions of combinations. You can see this on Appsfire’s VIP list (my iPhone apps are listed there, along with a number of others). None of us have the same set of apps.

So, to get me off of the iPhone you are going to have to duplicate all my apps (and I’ve gotten several more since doing this list a couple of weeks ago).

Here, let’s play a game. Let’s say that a Chinese manufacturer ships an Android phone that makes me hot and bothered. Something, say, that’s half the thickness of the iPhone, has a screen that’s sharper, and the battery lasts twice as long, oh, and let’s just say it costs $50 less than buying an iPhone.

Would it get me to switch away from my iPhone? Probably not, truth be told. (I do have a second SIM, though, waiting, just in case that I use to test phones).

Why not?

Because I’ve grown addicted to Tweetie. So, now you’ll have to build an app, or get a third-party developer to build an app that works better. Let’s say you do that.

But do you have my favorite game? Tap Tap Revenge?

Do you have Facebook? Do you have Photoshop? Just today NASDAQ came out with a cool new app. Do you have that? And so on and so forth.

Every app is lockin.

I’m not going to be switching anytime soon, and neither are you.

So, what the other manufacturers are hoping is that enough users remain ignorant of all the uses of the apps and that they get enough of them built either by themselves (not gonna happen) or by developers outside the company before Apple just locks in everyone.

Joe Wilcox, on Twitter, says that iPhone users are “beyond reason.”

No, Joe, I just want my Kindle app on Android before I’ll switch. I have lots of books that I’ve invested in that I can read on my iPHone.

Or, I want my TripIt app on Android or Nokia before I’ll switch. My entire flight information is stuck inside there.

Or, I want to watch Leo Laporte’s show this afternoon (or more accurately, listen to it on my Prius thanks to UStream’s app).

Or I want to use Yelp’s app to find a great restaurant.

Etc. Etc. Etc.

If you get me all those, and all the other 85,000 apps, but on a device that is sexier and more fun to use (and more productive) then I’ll definitely be reasonable and switch.

Until then I have 85,000 reasons to be unreasonable. Oh, did you see this app called “RedLaser?” You point your phone at barcodes, and it gives you information about the products you are looking at, including what the price is on Amazon.com. Very cool.

Now I’m sure you’ll say you have an app like RedLaser on your device, right? (I’ve seen similar on Nokia devices, for instance) But do you have all the others I use?

Yes, I’m unreasonable. Let me know when I can stop being unreasonable!

Oh, and I met the guy who runs the iPhone app team (he asked to remain anonymous) and he told me his team approves hundreds of new apps every day. So, that’s HUNDREDS of new reasons every day that I will remain unreasonable. Sorry to Nokia, Palm, Microsoft, RIM, and all the other players.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Computers/Internet
KEYWORDS: ilovebillgates; iphone; iwanthim; iwanthimbad; microsoftfanboys
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1 posted on 10/25/2009 11:25:21 PM PDT by Swordmaker
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~; 1234; 50mm; 6SJ7; Abundy; Action-America; acoulterfan; Airwinger; Aliska; altair; ...
Why the iPhone won't be knocked off the pedestal by up-and-coming smart phones... PING!


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2 posted on 10/25/2009 11:30:29 PM PDT by Swordmaker (Remember, the proper pronunciation of IE is "AAAAIIIIIEEEEEEE!)
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To: Swordmaker

And this time, Apple is highly unlikely to repeat the mistakes of the Apple II.


3 posted on 10/25/2009 11:36:05 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Swordmaker
This article appears, at first glance/read, like an Apple fanboy writeup. (Well, it is, but it need not have been.)

What it REALLY is, is a challenge to any other smartphone maker, to get the 85,000 app WRITERS to port the apps to their new platform.

No reason they can't, other than... ummm... oh, right, the iPhone has a few years of support research, libraries, APIs, etc. that the others don't.

Well, c'mon competitors!! Get cracking!!

4 posted on 10/25/2009 11:36:53 PM PDT by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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To: dayglored
What it REALLY is, is a challenge to any other smartphone maker, to get the 85,000 app WRITERS to port the apps to their new platform.

You don't think the Pre model will work? Pretend to be an iPod and connect to iTunes and just, sorta... you know...

5 posted on 10/25/2009 11:39:56 PM PDT by Swordmaker (Remember, the proper pronunciation of IE is "AAAAIIIIIEEEEEEE!)
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> You don't think the Pre model will work? Pretend to be an iPod and connect to iTunes and just, sorta... you know...

Misappropriating another manufacturer's USB VID/PID is so egregious a breach of modern protocol as to be unmentionable in a professional context.

Identifying oneself as an iPod, yeah, there's precedent for that, look at web browser client identification. But VID/PID is off-limits.

I don't think masquerading will get the competitors nearly close enough in the long run.

6 posted on 10/25/2009 11:43:11 PM PDT by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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To: Spktyr
Oh, did you see this app called “RedLaser?” You point your phone at barcodes, and it gives you information about the products you are looking at, including what the price is on Amazon.com. Very cool.

I just bought the RedLaser app ($1.99) and tried it on several UPC barcodes I have handy. This is way cool! Super easy to use.

This is a KILLER app. Retail stores are not going to like it... you can shop, find something you like, scan the barcode, and RedLaser instantly tells you the product AND finds you the best pricing available on the Internet. How often have I wondered if I could buy something cheaper on the web but went ahead and coughed up the cash at the store because I was too impatient to wait and go home to do a web search? This will save me money.

7 posted on 10/25/2009 11:45:14 PM PDT by Swordmaker (Remember, the proper pronunciation of IE is "AAAAIIIIIEEEEEEE!)
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To: Swordmaker

I recommend the MotionX GPS Drive - it’s the turn by turn navigation system that others charge $50+ for, only it’s $2.99.


8 posted on 10/25/2009 11:48:35 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Swordmaker
Joe Wilcox, on Twitter, says that iPhone users are “beyond reason.”

Joe Wilcox is either a professional troll or a paid Microsoft shill. His articles on Betanews plumb new depths.
9 posted on 10/25/2009 11:48:41 PM PDT by Terpfen (FR is being Alinskied. Remember, you only take flak when you're over the target.)
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To: Swordmaker

I just bought a iPhone 3GS. It is awesome. By far the best phone I have ever had. Highly recommend it. I have zero complaints. It took me a couple days to figure things out. Now I still have a lot to learn, but I love it. If you have trouble. Just go to youtube and there are usually videos on whatever is your issue. Also you can go to the apple web site.

BTW, I know you can get the 3G ($99), but I recommend the 3GS ($199 and $299), because it has a better signal, longer batter life, video e-mail, and able to run apps that that the 3G cannot. A friend of mine has a 3G and we compared them. The 3GS smoked it.


10 posted on 10/25/2009 11:49:41 PM PDT by Sprite518
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To: Swordmaker

its the apps and itunes, not the hardware that make iphone above everyone else


11 posted on 10/25/2009 11:51:39 PM PDT by 4rcane
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To: Sprite518

3gs has a faster cpu, x2 speed


12 posted on 10/25/2009 11:52:39 PM PDT by 4rcane
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To: Swordmaker

Of the 85,000 apps, how many are meant to do the same things? What is the minimum number of apps that a competitor needs to have on offer?


13 posted on 10/25/2009 11:59:45 PM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: 4rcane

What’s nice about it too is that if there is a wireless router in the area it will ask to connect to it. If you do it your house you are beaming off your router.

My favorite app at the moment is Trapster. Basically tells you where all the cops are located. Not that I am speeding, but it does. I quite do not understand how it works, but it works.

There are more serious apps. Just depends what you want.


14 posted on 10/26/2009 12:05:23 AM PDT by Sprite518
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA

you have 16 or 32 Gigabites. Most aps are in the KBs and they are rather low. About 1 to 2 KBS. In other words you can put a lot in there.


15 posted on 10/26/2009 12:07:16 AM PDT by Sprite518
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA
Of the 85,000 apps, how many are meant to do the same things? What is the minimum number of apps that a competitor needs to have on offer?

Quite a few. It is a freewheeling market where apps compete on quality, not so much on price.

As to the minimum number, the iPhone can hold 180 on the screen... but there are ways to load even more. As noted in the article, the mix on any iPhone is different from the mix on another. While the author says "trillions" of different mixes, that is not true... because there are only ~50 million iPhones and iPod touches out there... so that would be the number of combination mixes. How many should a competitor offer to be competitive in functionality? Who knows.

16 posted on 10/26/2009 12:20:56 AM PDT by Swordmaker (Remember, the proper pronunciation of IE is "AAAAIIIIIEEEEEEE!)
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA
Of the 85,000 apps, how many are meant to do the same things? What is the minimum number of apps that a competitor needs to have on offer?

Or alternatively, something the market perceives as better. The article author doesn't recognize this as a possible (better) strategy for a competitor.

17 posted on 10/26/2009 12:21:19 AM PDT by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: Swordmaker

Imagine if the iPhone had a carrier like Verizon. Its sales would be unbelievable then.

This is the ONLY reason I haven't bought an iPhone yet. I do have an iPod Touch that i love. But until Verizon gets the iPhone, I'm not going to go to a network that doesn't work in 98% of my state.

18 posted on 10/26/2009 12:43:57 AM PDT by hawkeye101 (Electing lawyers to political office is like hiring a raging alcoholic to run your bar!)
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To: Swordmaker

I picked up a pair of HTC Hero Android phones this week. Very impressive all the way around. Sprint turn by turn nav comes with it. The bar code scanners blew me away. I have one for shopping, and one that tells nutrition info. Put the scanner on a fuel filter for the boat and BAM it googles it right there. Haven’t had to pay for any apps, and haven’t even scratched the surface of what’s available. Since it looks like most major carriers do or will carry Android phones they will no doubt cut into Apple’s profits.


19 posted on 10/26/2009 1:01:59 AM PDT by cabojoe
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To: hawkeye101
This is the ONLY reason I haven't bought an iPhone yet. I do have an iPod Touch that i love. But until Verizon gets the iPhone, I'm not going to go to a network that doesn't work in 98% of my state.

Apple approached Verizon as their first choice. Verizon was not interested. AT&T was.

20 posted on 10/26/2009 1:02:04 AM PDT by Swordmaker (Remember, the proper pronunciation of IE is "AAAAIIIIIEEEEEEE!)
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