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85,000 reasons why Apple’s iPhone isn’t going to be disrupted
Scobleizer ^ | OCTOBER 25, 2009 | by ROBERT SCOBLE

Posted on 10/25/2009 11:25:20 PM PDT by Swordmaker

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1 posted on 10/25/2009 11:25:21 PM PDT by Swordmaker
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~; 1234; 50mm; 6SJ7; Abundy; Action-America; acoulterfan; Airwinger; Aliska; altair; ...
Why the iPhone won't be knocked off the pedestal by up-and-coming smart phones... PING!


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2 posted on 10/25/2009 11:30:29 PM PDT by Swordmaker (Remember, the proper pronunciation of IE is "AAAAIIIIIEEEEEEE!)
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And this time, Apple is highly unlikely to repeat the mistakes of the Apple II.


3 posted on 10/25/2009 11:36:05 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Swordmaker
This article appears, at first glance/read, like an Apple fanboy writeup. (Well, it is, but it need not have been.)

What it REALLY is, is a challenge to any other smartphone maker, to get the 85,000 app WRITERS to port the apps to their new platform.

No reason they can't, other than... ummm... oh, right, the iPhone has a few years of support research, libraries, APIs, etc. that the others don't.

Well, c'mon competitors!! Get cracking!!

4 posted on 10/25/2009 11:36:53 PM PDT by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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What it REALLY is, is a challenge to any other smartphone maker, to get the 85,000 app WRITERS to port the apps to their new platform.

You don't think the Pre model will work? Pretend to be an iPod and connect to iTunes and just, sorta... you know...

5 posted on 10/25/2009 11:39:56 PM PDT by Swordmaker (Remember, the proper pronunciation of IE is "AAAAIIIIIEEEEEEE!)
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> You don't think the Pre model will work? Pretend to be an iPod and connect to iTunes and just, sorta... you know...

Misappropriating another manufacturer's USB VID/PID is so egregious a breach of modern protocol as to be unmentionable in a professional context.

Identifying oneself as an iPod, yeah, there's precedent for that, look at web browser client identification. But VID/PID is off-limits.

I don't think masquerading will get the competitors nearly close enough in the long run.

6 posted on 10/25/2009 11:43:11 PM PDT by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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To: Spktyr
Oh, did you see this app called “RedLaser?” You point your phone at barcodes, and it gives you information about the products you are looking at, including what the price is on Amazon.com. Very cool.

I just bought the RedLaser app ($1.99) and tried it on several UPC barcodes I have handy. This is way cool! Super easy to use.

This is a KILLER app. Retail stores are not going to like it... you can shop, find something you like, scan the barcode, and RedLaser instantly tells you the product AND finds you the best pricing available on the Internet. How often have I wondered if I could buy something cheaper on the web but went ahead and coughed up the cash at the store because I was too impatient to wait and go home to do a web search? This will save me money.

7 posted on 10/25/2009 11:45:14 PM PDT by Swordmaker (Remember, the proper pronunciation of IE is "AAAAIIIIIEEEEEEE!)
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I recommend the MotionX GPS Drive - it’s the turn by turn navigation system that others charge $50+ for, only it’s $2.99.


8 posted on 10/25/2009 11:48:35 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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Joe Wilcox, on Twitter, says that iPhone users are “beyond reason.”

Joe Wilcox is either a professional troll or a paid Microsoft shill. His articles on Betanews plumb new depths.
9 posted on 10/25/2009 11:48:41 PM PDT by Terpfen (FR is being Alinskied. Remember, you only take flak when you're over the target.)
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To: Swordmaker

I just bought a iPhone 3GS. It is awesome. By far the best phone I have ever had. Highly recommend it. I have zero complaints. It took me a couple days to figure things out. Now I still have a lot to learn, but I love it. If you have trouble. Just go to youtube and there are usually videos on whatever is your issue. Also you can go to the apple web site.

BTW, I know you can get the 3G ($99), but I recommend the 3GS ($199 and $299), because it has a better signal, longer batter life, video e-mail, and able to run apps that that the 3G cannot. A friend of mine has a 3G and we compared them. The 3GS smoked it.


10 posted on 10/25/2009 11:49:41 PM PDT by Sprite518
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its the apps and itunes, not the hardware that make iphone above everyone else


11 posted on 10/25/2009 11:51:39 PM PDT by 4rcane
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To: Sprite518

3gs has a faster cpu, x2 speed


12 posted on 10/25/2009 11:52:39 PM PDT by 4rcane
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To: Swordmaker

Of the 85,000 apps, how many are meant to do the same things? What is the minimum number of apps that a competitor needs to have on offer?


13 posted on 10/25/2009 11:59:45 PM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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What’s nice about it too is that if there is a wireless router in the area it will ask to connect to it. If you do it your house you are beaming off your router.

My favorite app at the moment is Trapster. Basically tells you where all the cops are located. Not that I am speeding, but it does. I quite do not understand how it works, but it works.

There are more serious apps. Just depends what you want.


14 posted on 10/26/2009 12:05:23 AM PDT by Sprite518
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you have 16 or 32 Gigabites. Most aps are in the KBs and they are rather low. About 1 to 2 KBS. In other words you can put a lot in there.


15 posted on 10/26/2009 12:07:16 AM PDT by Sprite518
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Of the 85,000 apps, how many are meant to do the same things? What is the minimum number of apps that a competitor needs to have on offer?

Quite a few. It is a freewheeling market where apps compete on quality, not so much on price.

As to the minimum number, the iPhone can hold 180 on the screen... but there are ways to load even more. As noted in the article, the mix on any iPhone is different from the mix on another. While the author says "trillions" of different mixes, that is not true... because there are only ~50 million iPhones and iPod touches out there... so that would be the number of combination mixes. How many should a competitor offer to be competitive in functionality? Who knows.

16 posted on 10/26/2009 12:20:56 AM PDT by Swordmaker (Remember, the proper pronunciation of IE is "AAAAIIIIIEEEEEEE!)
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA
Of the 85,000 apps, how many are meant to do the same things? What is the minimum number of apps that a competitor needs to have on offer?

Or alternatively, something the market perceives as better. The article author doesn't recognize this as a possible (better) strategy for a competitor.

17 posted on 10/26/2009 12:21:19 AM PDT by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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Imagine if the iPhone had a carrier like Verizon. Its sales would be unbelievable then.

This is the ONLY reason I haven't bought an iPhone yet. I do have an iPod Touch that i love. But until Verizon gets the iPhone, I'm not going to go to a network that doesn't work in 98% of my state.

18 posted on 10/26/2009 12:43:57 AM PDT by hawkeye101 (Electing lawyers to political office is like hiring a raging alcoholic to run your bar!)
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I picked up a pair of HTC Hero Android phones this week. Very impressive all the way around. Sprint turn by turn nav comes with it. The bar code scanners blew me away. I have one for shopping, and one that tells nutrition info. Put the scanner on a fuel filter for the boat and BAM it googles it right there. Haven’t had to pay for any apps, and haven’t even scratched the surface of what’s available. Since it looks like most major carriers do or will carry Android phones they will no doubt cut into Apple’s profits.


19 posted on 10/26/2009 1:01:59 AM PDT by cabojoe
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This is the ONLY reason I haven't bought an iPhone yet. I do have an iPod Touch that i love. But until Verizon gets the iPhone, I'm not going to go to a network that doesn't work in 98% of my state.

Apple approached Verizon as their first choice. Verizon was not interested. AT&T was.

20 posted on 10/26/2009 1:02:04 AM PDT by Swordmaker (Remember, the proper pronunciation of IE is "AAAAIIIIIEEEEEEE!)
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